Will my car get totalled?
11-13-2003, 03:26 PM
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Will my car get totalled?
last night I got in an accident and after my friend and I were like its totalled. To my surprise when I went to the junk yard today the yard employee said it wouldn't. Is he right or clueless?
http://home.comcast.net/~johnlemvp/accident/
Oh and in my simulation you can't tell but the guy in the firebird accelerated too hard or something cuz his rear end broke lose and he got sidewayz.
These are the parts that I could tell needed replacement. (No engine bay stuff cuz it didn't check it out)
Front Bumper
Fr Upper Beam
Hood
INSULATOR, HOOD
R Side Fender
L Side Fender
Front Grille Assembly:
Front Grill
MOLDING, FR. GRILLE
MOLDING, FR
L Head Light Housing
L Fog Lamp Housing
Seat Belts
Drive Air Bag
Passenger Air Bag
Wind Shield (Maybe just a crack)
COVER, FR. BULKHEAD
http://home.comcast.net/~johnlemvp/accident/
Oh and in my simulation you can't tell but the guy in the firebird accelerated too hard or something cuz his rear end broke lose and he got sidewayz.
These are the parts that I could tell needed replacement. (No engine bay stuff cuz it didn't check it out)
Front Bumper
Fr Upper Beam
Hood
INSULATOR, HOOD
R Side Fender
L Side Fender
Front Grille Assembly:
Front Grill
MOLDING, FR. GRILLE
MOLDING, FR
L Head Light Housing
L Fog Lamp Housing
Seat Belts
Drive Air Bag
Passenger Air Bag
Wind Shield (Maybe just a crack)
COVER, FR. BULKHEAD
11-13-2003, 03:40 PM
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The airbags did deploy and there is a lot of front end damage however if i were to guess i'd say it wasn't totaled.
Awesome simulation however. So the cop was waiting in Mickey D's?
Awesome simulation however. So the cop was waiting in Mickey D's?
11-13-2003, 03:41 PM
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Well from the exterior damage I calculated like $2700 in parts not including labor or paint or the air bags or any engine bay parts that were damaged. I used http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.org for part prices.
Yeah the cop just happened to be there. Lucky I guess
Yeah the cop just happened to be there. Lucky I guess
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11-13-2003, 03:45 PM
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from what I remember it's like 50-60%...if the total amount of repairs needed is greater than 50-60% of the cars worth then it's totaled...I'm sorry but it doesn't look totaled to me either but I could be wrong
11-13-2003, 03:57 PM
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nope its about 75% and it is totaled trust me. i posted pics of my girls tl and there was way less damage and it was 14k damage..
the bags alone with the cartridge or the propellant to eject the bags is about 3000$
sorry to see yer ride like that its heartbreaking
the bags alone with the cartridge or the propellant to eject the bags is about 3000$
sorry to see yer ride like that its heartbreaking
11-13-2003, 04:38 PM
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heres the breakdown just parts
front bumper 308
front bumper cover 440
grill assembly 242
grill moulding 92
headlight assembly 500
parklam assembly 80
lamp side marker 26
hood 590
radiator side panel 150
xmember rad panel 105
front fender 500
airbag control module 680
passenger air bag 1500
driver side airbag 1100
various clips and emblems 200
front bumper 308
front bumper cover 440
grill assembly 242
grill moulding 92
headlight assembly 500
parklam assembly 80
lamp side marker 26
hood 590
radiator side panel 150
xmember rad panel 105
front fender 500
airbag control module 680
passenger air bag 1500
driver side airbag 1100
various clips and emblems 200
11-13-2003, 04:47 PM
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Tough luck, but sweet simulation!
All you can see from that pic is the cometic damage, plus we know the airbags went off. When you open the hood and see if any part of the engine needs work (I'd guess minimum that the radiator is shot, and go backwards from there), and check if the frame was bent at all, then you'll know more.
At least that's how it would make sense to me - I've also heard of claims adjusters that will just go walk around the car, scribble down some notes without looking in the engine or getting it on a lift, and make a decision from there. So go figure!
All you can see from that pic is the cometic damage, plus we know the airbags went off. When you open the hood and see if any part of the engine needs work (I'd guess minimum that the radiator is shot, and go backwards from there), and check if the frame was bent at all, then you'll know more.
At least that's how it would make sense to me - I've also heard of claims adjusters that will just go walk around the car, scribble down some notes without looking in the engine or getting it on a lift, and make a decision from there. So go figure!
11-13-2003, 05:08 PM
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probably not totaled.
but that simulation is
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so there was a cop right there? did he see the whole thing?
but that simulation is
.so there was a cop right there? did he see the whole thing?
11-13-2003, 05:39 PM
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it looks totaled... when i crashed my TL it looks kinda da same but mine was a lil worst, most my damage was on the drivers side.. heres pics
http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/infamousm...tos.yahoo.com/
http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/infamousm...tos.yahoo.com/
11-13-2003, 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by Got_3.2?
it looks totaled... when i crashed my TL it looks kinda da same but mine was a lil worst, most my damage was on the drivers side.. heres pics
http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/infamousm...tos.yahoo.com/
it looks totaled... when i crashed my TL it looks kinda da same but mine was a lil worst, most my damage was on the drivers side.. heres pics
http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/infamousm...tos.yahoo.com/
are they lexus rims??? if they are what car did they come from??
i couldnt tell the emblem on the centercap
11-13-2003, 08:11 PM
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I hate to say I'm speaking from experience but my car looked just like that after my accident(both cars traveling about 25- 30) and at first i was told they thought it would be totalled and it wasnt, they did include all my aftermarket shit as part of the value but the total was like 11,000 and the vehicle was valued at 25000, but it did come out good after about three weeks in the shop
11-13-2003, 10:07 PM
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I worked at a body shop for 2 years... No way in hell the car is totaled. No bodyshop will loose that job..if its totaled they make no money on it...therefore not to many cars get totaled. Especialy since the cars worth a lot of money and i think it was 75-85% of book value to total. Even then there are ways around that.
11-13-2003, 10:46 PM
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I used to inspect cars for an Auto Insurance companyand it is not totalled. I can tell you that you have front frame damage, but not that significant. I think it is just the front rails were pushed downward and in. Find a shop that has a Genesis frame machine, it will pull the frame back to within factory specs. The Genesis machine uses laser to measure your frame and it is very accurate. Try to open your doors and see if they are sticking. If they are, then you might have additional damage to your frame. Depending on insurance companies, 70-75% is the number they use to declare if your car is a total or not.
11-14-2003, 03:05 AM
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Originally posted by sgmotoring
Look worst than it is. American made parts are cheap so my vote is not totaled
Look worst than it is. American made parts are cheap so my vote is not totaled
sorry but they will use oem parts to fix it unless there are aftermarket options
11-14-2003, 03:17 AM
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Originally posted by 01clsgld1
I worked at a body shop for 2 years... No way in hell the car is totaled. No bodyshop will loose that job..if its totaled they make no money on it...therefore not to many cars get totaled. Especialy since the cars worth a lot of money and i think it was 75-85% of book value to total. Even then there are ways around that.
I worked at a body shop for 2 years... No way in hell the car is totaled. No bodyshop will loose that job..if its totaled they make no money on it...therefore not to many cars get totaled. Especialy since the cars worth a lot of money and i think it was 75-85% of book value to total. Even then there are ways around that.
they will use the average of nada retail and red book retail if it is totaled add tax and other dmv fees
you also have to remember after that if you have had frame damage do you want to keep the car
what do you mean other ways around that? do you mean the shop will do it for less$
11-14-2003, 03:18 AM
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Originally posted by AcuraTL
I used to inspect cars for an Auto Insurance companyand it is not totalled. I can tell you that you have front frame damage, but not that significant. I think it is just the front rails were pushed downward and in. Find a shop that has a Genesis frame machine, it will pull the frame back to within factory specs. The Genesis machine uses laser to measure your frame and it is very accurate. Try to open your doors and see if they are sticking. If they are, then you might have additional damage to your frame. Depending on insurance companies, 70-75% is the number they use to declare if your car is a total or not.
I used to inspect cars for an Auto Insurance companyand it is not totalled. I can tell you that you have front frame damage, but not that significant. I think it is just the front rails were pushed downward and in. Find a shop that has a Genesis frame machine, it will pull the frame back to within factory specs. The Genesis machine uses laser to measure your frame and it is very accurate. Try to open your doors and see if they are sticking. If they are, then you might have additional damage to your frame. Depending on insurance companies, 70-75% is the number they use to declare if your car is a total or not.
when the shop tore it apart they found more.
they are one of the best shops in pa i believe
11-14-2003, 09:38 AM
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It'll probably cost about 10 grand or more to fix. Insurance companies don't go by KBB. They have their own numbers.
It typically requires about 60% of the car's value in damages to consider the car totalled. You are right on the borderline. If you want it totalled, be there when the insurance adjuster looks at your car. Or if the shop has a direct repair shop contract (like AAA), then the shop writes the estimate on behalf of AAA. In which case, you should talk to them.
That was about 1,500 dollars in repair costs. Yours would cost about 10,000, probably a little more. That would be over 50% of your car's value, but it requires 60%. Talk to the shop/aduster and tell 'em about the diminished value of the car now due to the accident, and how it'll never be the same. Technically, it's your problem, not theirs, but depending on adjusters, they might bend the rules a little bit.
Good luck and sorry to hear about your misfortune.
It typically requires about 60% of the car's value in damages to consider the car totalled. You are right on the borderline. If you want it totalled, be there when the insurance adjuster looks at your car. Or if the shop has a direct repair shop contract (like AAA), then the shop writes the estimate on behalf of AAA. In which case, you should talk to them.
That was about 1,500 dollars in repair costs. Yours would cost about 10,000, probably a little more. That would be over 50% of your car's value, but it requires 60%. Talk to the shop/aduster and tell 'em about the diminished value of the car now due to the accident, and how it'll never be the same. Technically, it's your problem, not theirs, but depending on adjusters, they might bend the rules a little bit.
Good luck and sorry to hear about your misfortune.
11-14-2003, 10:29 AM
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The doors do stick but I thought it was due to the fenders. Not sure though.
The doors do stick but I thought it was due to the fenders. Not sure though.
11-14-2003, 11:57 AM
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I own a body shop in Sacramento, and I can assure you that your car is not totaled. I own a TL-S and my assistant owns a CL-S, so we are very familiar with your car. I can provide you with an estimate to submit to you insurance company so you can get the job done right. I would just need a few things from you to do this. If you want I will even pay for the transport to and from our facility in Sacramento. We also provide a lifetime warranty on the work we perform. If you are interested shoot me an e-mail at 007@916technik.com. But I can assure you that your car is not totaled, and there is not set rule for totaling a vehicle; it’s typically 80% but varies from case to case.
11-14-2003, 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by 007 TL-S w/Nav
I own a body shop in Sacramento, and I can assure you that your car is not totaled. I own a TL-S and my assistant owns a CL-S, so we are very familiar with your car. I can provide you with an estimate to submit to you insurance company so you can get the job done right. I would just need a few things from you to do this. If you want I will even pay for the transport to and from our facility in Sacramento. We also provide a lifetime warranty on the work we perform. If you are interested shoot me an e-mail at 007@916technik.com. But I can assure you that your car is not totaled, and there is not set rule for totaling a vehicle; it’s typically 80% but varies from case to case.
I own a body shop in Sacramento, and I can assure you that your car is not totaled. I own a TL-S and my assistant owns a CL-S, so we are very familiar with your car. I can provide you with an estimate to submit to you insurance company so you can get the job done right. I would just need a few things from you to do this. If you want I will even pay for the transport to and from our facility in Sacramento. We also provide a lifetime warranty on the work we perform. If you are interested shoot me an e-mail at 007@916technik.com. But I can assure you that your car is not totaled, and there is not set rule for totaling a vehicle; it’s typically 80% but varies from case to case.
11-14-2003, 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by paper1122
Is is just me or does it look like the suspension is messed up on the drivers side?
Is is just me or does it look like the suspension is messed up on the drivers side?
11-14-2003, 02:17 PM
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You know what at second look you may be right. But its hard to tell from pictures, the angle may make it look that way. But the passenger side tire looks straight and the driver side is clearly turned. But i could be wrong.