Well, i just have couple of questions about my CLS.. I bought the car not too long ago, its a 03 CLS 6M/T, after couple of months of driving i started to feel things that were wrong, and they are, Well at first i thought my car was losing horsepowers which at the end became true, I went to dyno and i dyno'ed 130whps and 232 TQ's with a bad clucth and 3rd gear bad, and the dyno was from the 3rd gear pull so the first thought that came to my head is since it was from the 3rd gear pull thats why i am losing power. Now the car is in shop geting its clucth done and rebuilding the whole tranny by puting all the new parts in it. Well, my question is could this be true that my car was losing that much power cuz of its clucth and 3rd gear. Also i read about alot of u guys had trouble with IMRC's and i saw a video of the drections how to check if the IMRC is bad.. Well, my IMRC does not open up when i rev it above 4k rpm. If my IMRC is bad, where can i get one? I went to acura dealership and they told me that the 03s never had problems with the IMRC's i was like wtf. So what should i do..?

 

You're dealership is full of fucking morons. Yes 03s can have problems with the IMRC.

 

Yea, I mean i am noob to these cars so i really dont know.. But still if the IMRC is busted i should'nt lose half of my power.. My check engine light goes on/off too. I tested it and one code was Over rev. and other was something with my exhuast but i put a aftermarket exhuast on it so i think thats the reason it throws me that code.. But over rev. code is from the previous owner..

 

How can you have 130hp and 230 tq? Doesn't seem right. Over rev....sounds bad. Do you have a warrenty?

 

where did you get this car/how much did you pay?

 

Did you money shift dude? (missshift)

And those dyno numbers are wack, no way will a 6spd make 232 wheel torque unless you have a shitload of bolt ons including P2R plenums and a good tune with a Neo.

 

OK there's just a ton of wrong in your post. So I will help you.

1 - 6MT dyno's should be done in 4th gear
2 - A bad clutch/trans is going to be bad for the car no matter what
3 -The IMRC not working will make you lose power. Replace it. Any online dealer will carry it.
Here's the link to the FAQ....https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2539666
There you will find the thread for online dealers. As well as a ton of other useful threads on your car.
4 - Get the codes read & post the actual code. from there we can tell more of what the codes mean.
5 - An over rev code is bad, but it may not be that bad. That happens when you miss down shift. Like going to 2nd instead of 4th at 70mph. However it depends on what RPM the car was at that will determine engine damage.

 

I got the car for 7.5k it was hit lil bit but i took it to the body shop and they fixed. However i did misshifted from 3rd in 2nd while going like 70-80 miles, but that was after i dyno it, so i dont think that over rev caused any loss of the power. Thats when my clucth went completly dead on me, and its in shop now. But i dont think its the motor cuz i dont hear any noise, well i do hear ticking noise every moring when i crunk it up and the noise will go away when the engine gets warmer. I went to Acura dealership and they told me that it might be a cyclinder, then i went to the other profesonal shop and they told me that there is no possible way that the cyclinder is broking because if it was the noise will always be there it would not dissapear so that made alot of sense to me. I have feeling that my engine is not geting cold air like its susp. to do. Also when i think about it if the cyclinder is shot then it would'nt made 230TQ's on the dyno.. But also the misshift happend like 2-4 months after i dyno'ed it.. I am confused here, i cant trust any of the shops around here cuz all they want is money..

 

The over rev code read was on 10.5k... Which did not happend to me.. So it must be from the previous owner.. But like i said nothing wrong with car it pulls like a mother!#$! at first but then at high speed it just dont feel like a 260hp car, but it feels like a 230tq car..

 

Yea, tell me about it.. No waranty..

 

coolant level frequently gets low for some reasons. do you guys know why?

 

Ok well get the clutch done & replace the IMRC & then see how it drives. You have to fix this stuff 1st before we can tell you what else may be wrong. Both of those things & the dyno in 3rd is why you don't got any power.

 

couldn't have said it better. And show the dealer a TL or MDX with the IMRC, and how it opens on those cars at a certain rpm, thats what I did, took some sweet talking, but they finally did it. Cool thing was, they first checked the electrical current before swapping the part.

 

Well, i will do it. It might get done tomrow with the clucth and the third gear so i update u guys.. I will also do that to the dealer..

 

10.5k is quite the over-rev....

You might have gotten lucky but im sure there is a tiny bit of damage and like I said earlier, 232 wheel tq is not possible on a CL-S6 unless it has all the bolt ons and a tune.

 

...10.5k...

that can't be physically possible with a rev limiter.

EDIT: Calling mr steve...

 

If you miss-shift from 5th to 2nd it's absolutely possible. The rev limiter can't overcome simple physics and mathematics.

 

I can understand that...that would be a horrific miss-shift though.

 

set your car on fire and walk away. there is a whole heaping bunch of retardedness going on here.

so you dynoed and found out there was a ton of problems, yet you still drove it for FOUR MONTHS?!



if its still busted in may when i get there ill take a look at it for you.

 

Are u out of ur mind.. Or u was just joking about that seting the car on fire??

I didnt find the problem yet... But i am looking for it..

Its not busted bro, its just not runing right. Do u really think this is an busted up car?

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And guys, i know its impossible to belive when they told me the over revesion number, my mouth just dropped dead... 10.5k?? the cluster dont even have 9.5k on it..

 

Interesting....same car...

 

Take this route.

Finish up the clutch/tranny work.
Replace the IMRC.
Reset the ECU by leaving the negative battery cable unplugged overnight.
Drive the car for a few days or a week.
Get it dyno'ed with a dynojet in 4th gear.

Let us know if you throw any codes after you reset the ecu and report back with the dyno results.

 

FWIW... the IMRC on my '02 CL-S was most definitely different than the IMRC on my '03 CL-S 6MT.

The '03 IMRC is an enclosed housing and I can't see the actuator pivot open and closed as the car is rev'd. It's a completely sealed unit.

http://photos.imageevent.com/mrsteve.../huge/imrc.jpg

 

i know its not busted buddy, im just saying....you really shouldnt drive it if its not working right! it cant be good for the cars powertrain.

i said that last statement cause ill be moving to NC in may and looking for some acura people to hang with.

 

the only reason you would be loosing power from the clutch is if it's slipping...but then your engine will rev up and you will know...also, you still got 232lb/ft tq...none of theis makes sence.

 

hmmm... Wasnt there a guy here by the name of Allen who was banned? The location reminds me of that story...

 

Artbran, you are very correct that the OP was Allen. I had a strange feeling that it was him. Once he posted a pic of his car i knew right away that it was him.

EDIT: Allen's picture's http://s138.photobucket.com/albums/q248/Alen36/