What makes a good driver?
03-01-2001, 11:14 PM
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What makes a good driver?
Looking at some of the posts in the "racing stories" forum, I notice posters designating some as bad drivers. Our cars are automatic, I mean how can you get it wrong? Just stomp it to the floor and go. Am I wrong? I know the SS can be used but how can that go wrong? I don't really race other cars on the road, I was just curious if there is a way I can go faster, better. I know what our cars have under the hood and can't believe that I sometimes have trouble pulling ahead of other cars, like 325's and such, maybe I just don't stay on it long enough to get to the sweet spot, I don't know. I know our cars arent that great right off the line. It sounds like most of the guys(and girls) in this forum are avid weekend racers, If I knew more about driving perhaps It would help.
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There is some debate about whether or not good driving means anything when you're in an automatic. One thing is for sure... it means less than when you're driving a manual! 
In an automatic, you can do what's called "brake-torquing" which is holding down the brake and pushing on the gas til the rpms rise a little bit (to about 2000rpm in the CL-S. Then you simultaneously give it full throttle and let off the brake to get a harder launch like you were driving a manual. So, I guess that's one thing you can do in an auto to be a "better" driver. But I certainly wouldn't make a habit of doing that and it's actually a lot harder than it sounds. The few times I've tried it, I've ended up boggin down the engine by not releasing the brake fast enough and I think I launched even slower that way.
Now, as far as not being able to pull on other cars, I'd have to say I cannot put enough emphasis on the word timing. There are a lot of cars out there that, in manual tranny form, are only a few ticks off our CL-S. That's not a whole lot. Don't expect to be blowing past anything that isn't at least a full second slower to 60 than our car. Also, if someone gets a jump on you, it really can take awhile to pull them in - especially if it's a car that's just a little slower than our car. A Celica GT-S is a good example. The first time I raced one, he was behind me by a couple car lengths, I heard him get on it and I got cocky and waited til he got even with me before I hit it thinking I'd blow him away! Not so!! He had a lot of momentum and I never fully caught up to him (we went up to about 80mph from 20mph). Then at the next 2 lights, we went at it "fair & square" and I took him down by a few car lengths each time. That's with him launching his car really hard and me just stomping it. Since I couldn't take him down from a rolling start, I actually thoguht I was gonna lose from a light. But a fast reaction time means a lot out on the street.
In an automatic, you can do what's called "brake-torquing" which is holding down the brake and pushing on the gas til the rpms rise a little bit (to about 2000rpm in the CL-S. Then you simultaneously give it full throttle and let off the brake to get a harder launch like you were driving a manual. So, I guess that's one thing you can do in an auto to be a "better" driver. But I certainly wouldn't make a habit of doing that and it's actually a lot harder than it sounds. The few times I've tried it, I've ended up boggin down the engine by not releasing the brake fast enough and I think I launched even slower that way.Now, as far as not being able to pull on other cars, I'd have to say I cannot put enough emphasis on the word timing. There are a lot of cars out there that, in manual tranny form, are only a few ticks off our CL-S. That's not a whole lot. Don't expect to be blowing past anything that isn't at least a full second slower to 60 than our car. Also, if someone gets a jump on you, it really can take awhile to pull them in - especially if it's a car that's just a little slower than our car. A Celica GT-S is a good example. The first time I raced one, he was behind me by a couple car lengths, I heard him get on it and I got cocky and waited til he got even with me before I hit it thinking I'd blow him away! Not so!! He had a lot of momentum and I never fully caught up to him (we went up to about 80mph from 20mph). Then at the next 2 lights, we went at it "fair & square" and I took him down by a few car lengths each time. That's with him launching his car really hard and me just stomping it. Since I couldn't take him down from a rolling start, I actually thoguht I was gonna lose from a light. But a fast reaction time means a lot out on the street.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by GoldTypeS:
There is some debate about whether or not good driving means anything when you're in an automatic. One thing is for sure... it means less than when you're driving a manual! In an automatic, you can do what's called "brake-torquing" which is holding down the brake and pushing on the gas til the rpms rise a little bit (to about 2000rpm in the CL-S. Then you simultaneously give it full throttle and let off the brake to get a harder launch like you were driving a manual. So, I guess that's one thing you can do in an auto to be a "better" driver. But I certainly wouldn't make a habit of doing that and it's actually a lot harder than it sounds. The few times I've tried it, I've ended up boggin down the engine by not releasing the brake fast enough and I think I launched even slower that way.
Now, as far as not being able to pull on other cars, I'd have to say I cannot put enough emphasis on the word timing. There are a lot of cars out there that, in manual tranny form, are only a few ticks off our CL-S. That's not a whole lot. Don't expect to be blowing past anything that isn't at least a full second slower to 60 than our car. Also, if someone gets a jump on you, it really can take awhile to pull them in - especially if it's a car that's just a little slower than our car. A Celica GT-S is a good example. The first time I raced one, he was behind me by a couple car lengths, I heard him get on it and I got cocky and waited til he got even with me before I hit it thinking I'd blow him away! Not so!! He had a lot of momentum and I never fully caught up to him (we went up to about 80mph from 20mph). Then at the next 2 lights, we went at it "fair & square" and I took him down by a few car lengths each time. That's with him launching his car really hard and me just stomping it. Since I couldn't take him down from a rolling start, I actually thoguht I was gonna lose from a light. But a fast reaction time means a lot out on the street.</font>
There is some debate about whether or not good driving means anything when you're in an automatic. One thing is for sure... it means less than when you're driving a manual!
In an automatic, you can do what's called "brake-torquing" which is holding down the brake and pushing on the gas til the rpms rise a little bit (to about 2000rpm in the CL-S. Then you simultaneously give it full throttle and let off the brake to get a harder launch like you were driving a manual. So, I guess that's one thing you can do in an auto to be a "better" driver. But I certainly wouldn't make a habit of doing that and it's actually a lot harder than it sounds. The few times I've tried it, I've ended up boggin down the engine by not releasing the brake fast enough and I think I launched even slower that way.Now, as far as not being able to pull on other cars, I'd have to say I cannot put enough emphasis on the word timing. There are a lot of cars out there that, in manual tranny form, are only a few ticks off our CL-S. That's not a whole lot. Don't expect to be blowing past anything that isn't at least a full second slower to 60 than our car. Also, if someone gets a jump on you, it really can take awhile to pull them in - especially if it's a car that's just a little slower than our car. A Celica GT-S is a good example. The first time I raced one, he was behind me by a couple car lengths, I heard him get on it and I got cocky and waited til he got even with me before I hit it thinking I'd blow him away! Not so!! He had a lot of momentum and I never fully caught up to him (we went up to about 80mph from 20mph). Then at the next 2 lights, we went at it "fair & square" and I took him down by a few car lengths each time. That's with him launching his car really hard and me just stomping it. Since I couldn't take him down from a rolling start, I actually thoguht I was gonna lose from a light. But a fast reaction time means a lot out on the street.
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(time tire are squeeling/tire tires are not)+(time VSA is off/Time VSA is on)+(Time in d4/time in D5)+((time in D3/time in D4 or D5)*2)-(number of wrecks)+(amount spent on mods/number of mods)+(time spent in shop installing mods/time spent in shop due to mod related damage)-(extra miles between regualrly scheduled matiance)+(amount of work done by self that worked/work done by self that resulted in trip to shop for repairs)=X
If X>10 then good driver
Else bad driver
I think I've spent too much time in computer progam but as you can see it is determined by many factors.
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If X>10 then good driver
Else bad driver
I think I've spent too much time in computer progam but as you can see it is determined by many factors.
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any body can learn to drag race, good driving is corners and whipping through traffic or other cars, but then again i learned to drive in ny, so cuting in and out of others cars was a necceity
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