The Dodge Neon SRT 4 did put down to the wheels 223WHP and 250WTQ in stock form, with a weight of 2883Lbs only!!!!!!. Three magz did test it..... one of them ran 14.2 at 99.5.... The other one C&D ran 14.2 at 102...... The third one Automobile ran 14.0 at 102!!!

Whats up with everyone underrating their Acutal Hp. I would take one in black please LOL.


Here is a full test of the car from C&D magz:
http://www.modernmusclecar.net/forum...=8532#post8532

 

...but for $20,000 why would anyone buy it? Save your $$ a few more months and buy a WRX or a hell of alot of fast USED autos.

 

 

I already have a fast car(LS1). I'm impressed with what Dodge did with the Neon. I like it and some people will say its just a Neon, but its one fast Stock Neon. Mopar did work on mods for this car. They have three stage Kits. They are all bolt ons and they will go up to 300HP Im not sure if that is crank HP or wheel, but i think its Wheels since they change the Turbo to boost close to 2 bar. That is impressive. I never thought i will think about a Neon until i saw this car. I was leaning more towrds to the WRX, but it would be way more expensive to buy and mod. WRX's dont trap 102 unless modded with a larger turbo. This car traps 102 stock. It will be a nice city car since u have the power to pull at any RPM with the crazy TQ number it has.

 

There's a point where I become a car snob...not that our beloved CL is 'all that'. But come on man, look at the cars you have and do own. And now you want a Neon??? Save $20k and mod the car you have. I would hate to hear you say you 'upgraded' to a Neon. I do give 'em props for sleeper-factor.


EDIT: Sorry, just re-read your post. You never actually said you'd BUY one. Just givin' them some respect.

 

Man when i see a company doing good i would say so even if its a Hynudai, u know what i mean. I'm giving credit where its due and dodge did do a good job with this car. And the price is crazy(less than 20K). Its not about downgrading from what i had, its not about the car brand name. To me a fast car is fast car whether its a SRT 4 or RSX S or WRX. Honestly, If i wanted a 2nd small car i would get me one of those SRT's over its compititors.

 

I wouldn't say upgrade, but I'd pick up a neon for a project car, cause of its potential. 20K fo 14.2s is very nice.

 

When you get out of you CL and get into a Neon, you'll realize why your'e driving the Acura.

 

My wife's car is a Neon ('95). All those horsies and those fast times are at least $4000 worth of lipstick on that pig. That car is only fast because it is light and it has a turbo.

I would wonder what the accelleration results would be with a passenger in that car....I'd bet that the difference would be greater than with a passenger in the CL-S, but I of course have no evidence to back that up.

I think it's great Mopar is actually spending the time to create a quick, fast and relatively inexpensive car. But at the same time, it seems there are other cars in the Chrysler lineup that would be more deserving of such upgrades, IMHO.

Back to the Neon, in the last year, my wife's car has had the A/C compressor replaced, the steering replaced and a couple other "minor" repairs that were at least $300 each. And that doesn't count ignition problems from last year....

On the highway, it's loud. Comfort level is way down from our Acuras. It rattles and creaks way more than any Honda/Acura product I've owned. The list goes on and on.

So, let the Neon crowd have them. They really do nothing for me, and as soon as it's feasible, the wife's getting a different car. Something of better quality, more room, etc. Meanwhile, I'll continue to enjoy the hell out of my Acura, and don't really care what the 16 year-olds do with their turbo Neons.

 

Who said im comparing the CL with the Neon. That is two different classes. And for saying add one passenger in the Neon and see what happens... it should be better than the CL S because it has more TQ. Cars with less TQ suffer with added wight more than cars with higher TQ. Thats why a LS1 dont suffer as much as NSX or M3 or S2K when they have two people in the car.

 

You're talking about a 7 year old Neon though!. I wouldn't put it in the same class as the RSX, quality wise. But they have made a lot of headway in that car. They've gotten rid of a lot of the little buzzes and rattles in the past couple of years. The engine is not as noisy as it once was. And the ride and handling are much better.

 

Did ya ever ride in the POS? I left it to an associate once to rent us a car in Chicago. What does he get? A fawkin' neon. Yeah, Daimler-Chrysler finally got the boys off their dead ass but this car is not made for the same demographic as the cl-s and will never compete as such. This thing is made for younger people looking for a lotta bang for the buck.

 

why would anyone pay 20k for a NEON. i dont care if its 500 hp i mean come on its a NEON.

sidemarker

 

Well I guess its time to change the nozzles on the NO2 kit, I refuse to have my Civic lose to a Neon! Madd Props to Dodge, its about time they woke up, but its probably MB pullin the strings there so they could market the Neons in Europe, so the could beat out the Alfas, Citroens and what ever else they have over there.

 

Talk about MOPAR. In 1966, I had a hemi Dodge Coronet. It was fast as hell, but what a piece of shit. Every time it rained, I had leaks in the car and trunk. The interior sucked and looked cheap. I'd rather have something that has a little more luxury then a little more power. Having dual quads was great back then, but gas was cheap I guess. I'm guessing about 28 cents a gallon.

 

That car just has a terrible image problem... I saw one today and can't get the POS image past me when I spot one. Not to mention the body styling

 

oh this is good news... now maybe honda will get into the game, and offer turbo civic or somthing... now that would be cool.

 

It's almost a little scary... high schools will all be driving 14 flat cars if this keeps up....

 

that is scary.

 

give dodge/chrysler credit this will push the rest of the automakers to play. with zero percent intrest you'll see alot of these being purchase, civic ,protage,corrolla, focus will have to jump in.

 

Guys to give u an idea of how fast this car is... i looked times for the 350Z, MACH 1, S2K and SRT 4 from zero to 120mph.

MACH 1 19.5sec
SRT-4 20.0sec
350Z 22.3sec
S2K 26.4sec

So the SRT does have a crazy top end too. And it was the fastest in top gear accleration which is nice car to drive in the city. Man this car is growing on me everytime i read about it.

 

This is some serious punch for the money.

At 13% driveline loss, we are talking 256 HP at the crank.

So we got 256HP/$20000= $78 per HP
Mustang Cobra 400HP/$35,000= $87.5 per HP

New champion for bang for the buck.

Seriously though. These times (especially the 14.0 at 102 is amazing for this kind of money). Even the 5.6 for the 0-60 is amazing. Just for comparison purposes (and I am only talking raw acceleration):

WRX:
0-60= 5.7
1/4= 14.4 at 95.4

Boxster (201 HP):
0-60= 6.0
1/4= 14.6 at 94.0

Boxster S (250HP):
0-60= 5.6
1/4 = 14.0 at 100.5

Mercedes S55 AMG (354 HP)
0-60= 5.7
1/4= 14.1 at 102.7

Nissan 350Z (287HP)
0-60= 5.6
1/4= 14.3 at 100.2

BMW 330i
0-60= 6.1
1/4= 14.7 at 96.3

Audi S8 (360HP)
0-60= 6.1
1/4= 14.5 at 99.2

Jaguar XK8 Coupe
0-6= 6.1
1/4= 14.6 at 96.9

You need a serious sport car to beat that little thing.

The bottom line here folks in my opinion, is that we will see a ton of cheap speed coming up. Everyone wants a piece of the pie in the market that the WRX started to penetrate.

Also, I am reading of a 225HP Focus Turbo coming up soon (already spied testing in the desert).

So in this category, we now have:

Z350
Dodge R/T
WRX
Evo 8 (soon)
Focus Turbo

And more will apear soon I am sure. Cheap power is good for all of us. It makes luxury cars faster and cheaper too.

 

i saw it advertised for 215bhp in a mag.

 

i believe the specs for boxster is 15 flat and the "s" is 14.6. the z is 14 flat too.

 

It is underrated like my LS1 and the new 03 cobra. The magz will usually use the same rating the company uses. My LS1 is rated at 310 and yet it dyno'd 292RWHP and thats 343HP. The new 03 cobra is rated at 390HP and yet its putting down around 360RWHP which is around 423HP. So the Neon is doing the same thing for insurance purposes. They are saying 215HP and in fact it did dyno 223WHP which is around 260HP.

 

I'm talking about road noise, not engine noise. I wouldn't put it in the same class as an RSX either. I'm sure they've tightened things up a bit since '95, but the car doesn't really scream "quality" to me.

Oh, and the wife's car didn't squeak and rattle as much when it was new, so give the new crop some time.

Don't get me wrong, the car has done well for us and held up pretty well, all things considered.

My only point was for contrast. People are so hot and bothered about this turbo Neon coming out and how fast it's going to be. My point is: so what? It's still just a Neon, at best, a mid-grade car with average quality and reliability. There's more to cars than being the fastest to the 1/4 mile.

My comment started with Pappy mentioning about getting into a Neon after a CL and knowing why you're driving the CL. I wasn't trying to compare the two as if they were in the same class, just lend some first hand, daily CL-to-Neon experience, that's all.

 

Just think if you had kept it in mint condition until now, it would worth a heck of lot more than the CLS By the the way I used to have a 70 Duster 340. Loved that car!

 

Damn! I don't care what it looks like or WHO makes it, if it has that kind of performance, it's definitely something I'd consider!


Can somebody post some pics of this monster, or does it look just like the usual neons, cept with different rims?

 

These pics are from autoweek. U can see more pics under this link........ Its from C&D http://www.modernmusclecar.net/forum...=8532#post8532

 

another pic

 

sorry but i dont know how to post all pics together. Here is the last one.

 

yikes, i gotta start watchin out for neons

 

ok, that shit is ugly, i wont feel so bad if it beats me off the line

also nice cars fast gold

 

Thanks for the compliment. The SRT looks is not that bad, but when u copmare performance wise with price, it is a very good package IMO. By the way whats ur car? Do u have a SS?

 

nah z28, but i couldnt get a cool picture of one to use in my avatar :P

 

What did u run with the Z28? and what mods do u have?