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Old 01-25-2010, 04:58 PM
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What I need before SC Install

Whats going on. I have an 03 Acura CLS 6speed. I have 74,000 miles on my car. I am going up to ny next week, to pick up a ct supercharger, ct headers, and ct strut bar. The guy I am buying it from, is going to install it for me. Great guy. Hes going to get me some new gaskets. I called one of my friends today, and asked him what he thought I needed done to my car before the supercharger install, and wanted to see what you thought. Now he use to be a head mechanic for honda, so hes going based off of old hondas, but hasn't played with my car that much. Thats why I am asking here. Anything else you recommend. I know I am going to have to sell my icebox, as it comes with one.

He said to get the following items changed
fuel filter
transmission fluid
antifreeze
oil
brake fluid

And can I change the water pump, and timing belt without removing the supercharger.
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Wideband, don't want to drive around not knowing how lean/rich you are.
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Cosign on Wideband and Fuel Pressure gauge. Probably should also look into mugen cooling mods and disconnect your IMRC if you have the high boost pulley.
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Originally Posted by JBlueCLS6
Cosign on Wideband and Fuel Pressure gauge. Probably should also look into mugen cooling mods and disconnect your IMRC if you have the high boost pulley.
just wondered why? there wont be a vtec kick in :P
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Thanks, I am getting an air/fuel gauge from him (looks to be the Innovate LC-1 with XD-16 Gauge), and there will be no hbp.
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a good tuning solution like the AEM FIC, and not the shit comptech gives you

also for the fuel filter, the pump should already be; being pulled for the high flow pump with the S/C, so also doing the fuel filter at the same time should be absolutely no problem
brake fluid, nothing changes the access of changing it easily, but most people never change it often enough, so why not , other wise that list seems about right

one other thing to do is the SPARK PLUGS, otherwise a mother f***er to do once the s/c is in (for the front ones at least), also need good plugs to make sure to be able to ignite that bigger air/fuel mixture charge
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how's your clutch?
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colder plugs. bigger fuel pump. and if u disconnect the imrc, ull still have vtec. those are two diff things.
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I recommend ik24s for the hbp. When I use ik22s, they die every 4 months. If you use the HBP it's recommended to get emanage blue or aem fic, the thing ct gives you only alters map clamp.

"And can I change the water pump, and timing belt without removing the supercharger."
- Yes

and all the other stuff can be changed with the charger on as well.
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Thanks. Clutch seems to be fine. I will go with the colder plugs for now, and hold off on the timing belt and water pump since I dont have to take the supercharger off to change them out.
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if u still havent doen the 105k service id recommend it. 105k miles or 7 years. which ever one comes first. ur putting more stress on teh belt when u go sc. and u wont stay off the throttle lol
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1) I would drop in a fresh set of Denso IK22's to start.
2) Depending on how many miles are on the blower, you may want to change the SC oil.
3)You will need some Coolant to top off your system when you move your throttle body and swap out the lower radiator hose.
4) If you're running only the standard boost pulley, no need on disconnecting the IMRC - doing so will yield you negative results.
5) I would also replace your PVC valve as a preventative measure. If it's stuck, it can cause undue pressure in your crankcase which is hard on your rear main when boosting.
6) I would get a fresh gasket for the cam seal to replace on one on the SC mounting plate
7) I would buy a fresh EGR gasket
8) Make sure he uses solder connectors when he installs your ESM
9) Up to you if you want to spend the money for a fresh Walbro to drop into the tank.
10) Take a look at the hoses from this guys kit and see if you want to use new or not.
11) Yes - you can change the timing belt without pulling the blower. If you're at 75K and planning on changing your belt at 105K, you may want to pull the blower at that time anyways to pull the plugs and inspect/replace if necessary.
12) Since you're a 6 speed, no need to change your gearbox fluid unless you need to for normal maintenance.
13) I'm assuming that you're up to date on all other maintenance items. If not, get all that done and current.

Here's a link to the 6 speed install manual for your reference:

http://photos.imageevent.com/allout/...stallation.pdf

Good luck with it. Get used to driving around with a smile on your face
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I have never changed out the manual transmission fluid, do you think its a good idea to go ahead and do it. Its been awhile since anything been done to the car, its been sitting for almost a year. What maintenance items do you recommend getting done. Im assuming I can get both gaskets from the Acura dealership, and can I get the PVC valve there also, and where would I get the hoses. And is Walbro really necessary. I dont know much about them. Whats the maintenance on the 105k service.
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If you've never changed the gearbox fluid, I would do it just so you're running the newest formulation - shifts much better. If you've never changed out your coolant, this would be a good time to do a full drain and refill since most of it will be out anyways. No other important maintenance needed until 105K.

Yes - Gaskets from the Dealer.

Other hoses can be purchased from any auto parts store.

New fuel pump is not required but for me would be a piece of mind item.
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How much do the fuel pumps usually run and is their a specific model I should get.
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Originally Posted by AcuraCl1
How much do the fuel pumps usually run and is their a specific model I should get.
Walbro GSS342. If you do buy one, get it from a reputable place. There are also some China knockoffs out there. Youtube has a video on the difference.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/VPN-GSS342
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$80 or so. i have a walbro 255lph fuel pump. no problem but dont know the part number
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wideband.
intercooler
meth injection
emanage blue
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Thanks, are they a pain to install.
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nope. few bolts a clip or two and ur done. i do it in a few min. but ive done it twice already.
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Originally Posted by AcuraCl1
Thanks, are they a pain to install.
See step 19 on the install instructions.
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Thanks. Whats the difference between the 3 fuel pumps, oem, comptech supplied and walbro.
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not sure about ct. but walbro puts out more than oem. and one thing u dont want to happen is to run out of fuel
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Or going lean under boost, from insufficiant fuel

and the difference between the comptech and walbro fuel pump, I would say mainly price, cause comptech likes to charge a preminum for their parts
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I see on the parts list, it shows a fuel pump comes with it, is that not correct, even shows how to install it.

Also, what about upgrading the injectors to s2k injectors, would it be worth it.
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injectors are not worth it unless u decide to go with the hbp
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Originally Posted by AcuraCl1
I see on the parts list, it shows a fuel pump comes with it, is that not correct, even shows how to install it.

Also, what about upgrading the injectors to s2k injectors, would it be worth it.
Yes it does but don't know how willing the seller be willing to pull it from his car but yes if you are able to install a sc you can install a fuel pump on our cars, very easy to do,just have to access it through the trunk, and not drop the tank like on alot of domestic cars
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The Fuel pump that CT supplies is a warboro 255

You have options for fuel injection
S2000 370
RDX 410
RC ANYTHING.

Also with HBP, I highly recommend IK24s instead of IK22s
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rdx is cheaper. i have a diy on how to make it fit
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Thanks. The supercharger I am getting does include the fuel pump, so I am good there. So, I am good with fuel pump and wideband air/fuel. Should I get a boost gauge.

So, the only thing I would need to do then is
change fuel filter
change manual transmission fluid (what do you all recommend)
change anti freeze
oil change
change brake fluid

And would it be better to go ahead and change the injectors now in case I go with HBP.
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Changing injectors are easy u can do that when u go with the hbp. Colder plugs. Gm synchromesh for trans fluid. We don't have a fuel filter. Just a "sock". Pour some seafoam or do the 3 steps of seafoma and ull be good
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Thanks, I don't have to remove the supercharger to change the injectors. The supercharger comes with colder plus, and I will change the fluid to gm synchromesh, and do I need to change the sock. And I will seafoam, thanks.
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no NOT reuse spark plugs... buy new ones.
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Ok, thanks. Wheres the best place to get new spark plugs for a good price.
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Originally Posted by Rajca
Changing injectors are easy u can do that when u go with the hbp. Colder plugs. Gm synchromesh for trans fluid. We don't have a fuel filter. Just a "sock". Pour some seafoam or do the 3 steps of seafoma and ull be good
actually we do, but it's suppose to be a "lifetime" filter though, or to be replaced when the fuel pressure is below spec per honda

http://www.hondapartsunlimited.com/i...&submit=submit


part #1, and btw it does not even include that sock ethier,
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Ok, thanks. Wheres the best place to get new spark plugs for a good price.
Ebay
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Thanks, so I dont need to change my fuel filter than.
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don't have to, but it's easy to do, especially when you are already removing the fuel pump assembly to do the fuel pump

also it is one more gurentee, to help make sure you don't run out of fuel at the upper rpms (going lean, and blowing your engine)
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Ok, thanks. I will get a new one, just to be safe.
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All Out. Why does disconnecting the IMRC yield negative results when running the standard boost pulley ???? I plan going supercharged and my IMRC is already disconnected


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