what is hp & torque on 3.5 stock
11-12-2003, 06:30 AM
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Anyone hear of any emission (sp?) issues with the 3.5L upgrade. This is somethng I wanted to do next year, however, from what I've been hearing from asking around to different dealer and car guys is that swapping out the block could cause me to fail emissions... and in NY we have those tests every year.
Any ideas?
Any ideas?
11-12-2003, 06:35 AM
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Originally posted by juniorbean
Anyone hear of any emission (sp?) issues with the 3.5L upgrade. This is somethng I wanted to do next year, however, from what I've been hearing from asking around to different dealer and car guys is that swapping out the block could cause me to fail emissions... and in NY we have those tests every year.
Any ideas?
Anyone hear of any emission (sp?) issues with the 3.5L upgrade. This is somethng I wanted to do next year, however, from what I've been hearing from asking around to different dealer and car guys is that swapping out the block could cause me to fail emissions... and in NY we have those tests every year.
Any ideas?
11-12-2003, 06:36 AM
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Revving at 9K...
what state are you from? Most states just uses OBDII for testing for any cars 95 and newer. So as long as your ECU think everything is fine, you should pass DEQ no problem.
11-12-2003, 07:08 AM
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Originally posted by civic4982
I think what he was talking about was an aftercooler. I'm not sure exactly what that consists of.
I think what he was talking about was an aftercooler. I'm not sure exactly what that consists of.
I just picked up the main plenum as mentioned earlier and will have some pictures of it shortly in the other thread. austin519 might want to see this so as to not duplicate efforts. I will have several fabricated and made available.
11-12-2003, 09:52 AM
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Originally posted by Guru
3.5L with the 10.2:1 compression version and supercharger is the way to go though.
3.5L with the 10.2:1 compression version and supercharger is the way to go though.
11-12-2003, 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by KavexTrax
Has anyone attempted this project yet?!?
Has anyone attempted this project yet?!?
11-12-2003, 05:31 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: what is hp & torque on 3.5 stock
Originally posted by 03TL_PlaTinUM
I'm just looking for some respect.
I'm just looking for some respect.
From the way you talk on the boards I can only wonder why you dont get any respect
11-12-2003, 07:00 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: what is hp & torque on 3.5 stock
Originally posted by wicked_euros
From the way you talk on the boards I can only wonder why you dont get any respect
From the way you talk on the boards I can only wonder why you dont get any respect
screw those kiddiots on the accord site! this is where I hang out. you know, where sane folks are! who cares if they all ever warm up to me
at least they haven't started with the ban nonesense.
11-12-2003, 07:02 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: what is hp & torque on 3.5 stock
Originally posted by 03TL_PlaTinUM
screw those kiddiots on the accord site! this is where I hang out. you know, where sane folks are! who cares if they all ever warm up to me at least they haven't started with the ban nonesense.
screw those kiddiots on the accord site! this is where I hang out. you know, where sane folks are! who cares if they all ever warm up to me
at least they haven't started with the ban nonesense.
we think you are an idiot over here too
11-12-2003, 07:03 PM
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Originally posted by johntypes
I take to comptech there is no warranty with the 6.5 pulley.
I take to comptech there is no warranty with the 6.5 pulley.
11-12-2003, 07:04 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: what is hp & torque on 3.5 stock
Originally posted by CLpower
we think you are an idiot over here too
we think you are an idiot over here too
11-13-2003, 04:21 AM
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I hope that Benson can squeeze A LOT of HP out of that VAFC
cause you are gonna need it !! In fact to back up all the trash that you have talked you are gonna need nitriuos as well .
Why dont you give it up and just admit that your 7th gen Accord is the slowest car at the track when we all go, unless my buddy Ray Ray is there with his 02 stock Civic . If it makes you feel better I will bring Ray Ray and his slow Civic so that you will not be the slowest , OK ? Oh and BTW , I recall that you have been banned here quite a few times also .
Good luck with the VAFC and hopefully we will meet at the track the following weekend so that you can talk more smack before we ALL spank your ass down the track.
-Andy
I hope that Benson can squeeze A LOT of HP out of that VAFC
cause you are gonna need it !! In fact to back up all the trash that you have talked you are gonna need nitriuos as well
.Why dont you give it up and just admit that your 7th gen Accord is the slowest car at the track when we all go, unless my buddy Ray Ray is there with his 02 stock Civic
. If it makes you feel better I will bring Ray Ray and his slow Civic so that you will not be the slowest , OK ? Oh and BTW , I recall that you have been banned here quite a few times also .Good luck with the VAFC and hopefully we will meet at the track the following weekend so that you can talk more smack before we ALL spank your ass down the track.
-Andy
11-13-2003, 05:06 AM
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Originally posted by tool462
03'TLP
I hope that Benson can squeeze A LOT of HP out of that VAFC
cause you are gonna need it !! In fact to back up all the trash that you have talked you are gonna need nitriuos as well .
Why dont you give it up and just admit that your 7th gen Accord is the slowest car at the track when we all go, unless my buddy Ray Ray is there with his 02 stock Civic . If it makes you feel better I will bring Ray Ray and his slow Civic so that you will not be the slowest , OK ? Oh and BTW , I recall that you have been banned here quite a few times also .
Good luck with the VAFC and hopefully we will meet at the track the following weekend so that you can talk more smack before we ALL spank your ass down the track.
-Andy
03'TLP
I hope that Benson can squeeze A LOT of HP out of that VAFC
cause you are gonna need it !! In fact to back up all the trash that you have talked you are gonna need nitriuos as well
.Why dont you give it up and just admit that your 7th gen Accord is the slowest car at the track when we all go, unless my buddy Ray Ray is there with his 02 stock Civic
. If it makes you feel better I will bring Ray Ray and his slow Civic so that you will not be the slowest , OK ? Oh and BTW , I recall that you have been banned here quite a few times also .Good luck with the VAFC and hopefully we will meet at the track the following weekend so that you can talk more smack before we ALL spank your ass down the track.
-Andy
oh and don't worry about the VAFC! judging by what russian rsx was able to "squeeze" out of his car(+15whp, +15wtq, vtec engagement lowered by 1,000rpms), I am aiming for MID 14's baby! see you next weekend
11-13-2003, 05:09 AM
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Originally posted by tool462
03'TLP
I hope that Benson can squeeze A LOT of HP out of that VAFC
03'TLP
I hope that Benson can squeeze A LOT of HP out of that VAFC
last time I checked, isn't that what john has? yeah tool, small, minor, gain from leaning out a bit.
11-13-2003, 06:45 AM
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dude... a 7th gen Accord coupe should be running mid 14s... STOCK!!!
is your car broken 03TLPlatinum ?
Tool is right... VAFC isn't worth shit on a dyno nor at the tracks. We've had plenty of guys try itout here in thE CL board and their gains have been minimal. I call bulshit until I see a dyno for your tuner 03TL_Platinum. You'll be lucky to get 3-5HP gain and 3-5lbft.
the 15 wtq sounds like a scam to me. some f*cker must have dyno'd in the wrong gear to begin with. but then again if you want to throw your money away to get a VAFC and then pay a pretty penny to have a tuned... go ahead.
I know the only reputable tuner in Dallas (Jotech) charges about $150 to dyno tune a VAFC. Save your money for an s/c or other methods of boost or really build the motor.
is your car broken 03TLPlatinum ?
Tool is right... VAFC isn't worth shit on a dyno nor at the tracks. We've had plenty of guys try itout here in thE CL board and their gains have been minimal. I call bulshit until I see a dyno for your tuner 03TL_Platinum. You'll be lucky to get 3-5HP gain and 3-5lbft.
the 15 wtq sounds like a scam to me. some f*cker must have dyno'd in the wrong gear to begin with. but then again if you want to throw your money away to get a VAFC and then pay a pretty penny to have a tuned... go ahead.
I know the only reputable tuner in Dallas (Jotech) charges about $150 to dyno tune a VAFC. Save your money for an s/c or other methods of boost or really build the motor.
11-13-2003, 07:25 AM
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Originally posted by 03TL_PlaTinUM
tool, its really not entirely about showing you up, its really more about respect. you think the 14.7 timeslip was somehow manufactured, and my car isn't that fast. the truth is I ran high 14's(2.3-2.4 60's so basically mid 14's if I had traction), with high 90's trap speeds, all day long that day, and my car CAN and WILL do it again. and just in case your wondering, a basically stock accord with just CAI running that fast is insane! I've never heard of a CLS with CAI trapping at 97mph, in any weather. and they are surpposed to be "so much faster than us"
tool, its really not entirely about showing you up, its really more about respect. you think the 14.7 timeslip was somehow manufactured, and my car isn't that fast. the truth is I ran high 14's(2.3-2.4 60's so basically mid 14's if I had traction), with high 90's trap speeds, all day long that day, and my car CAN and WILL do it again. and just in case your wondering, a basically stock accord with just CAI running that fast is insane! I've never heard of a CLS with CAI trapping at 97mph, in any weather. and they are surpposed to be "so much faster than us"
BTW - My slowest times without an Icebox (stock) were 14.7 . . . and my slowest times with an icebox are in the mid 14s. So if I had a manual I'd be in the low 14s. :P
If you want respect, quite spewing B/S comments like this. I'm sure you have a fast one, but that's no guarantee that they are all that fast. Just as it's so with the CLS/TLS guys.
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11-13-2003, 07:37 AM
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If you guys want to spat about this... start a new topic in the Racing Stories forum.... oh and BTW, the 2004 V6 Accord should be running high 14's stock, while the 2001-2003 auto CL-S' run high 14's to low 15's... so I'm not sure what all the debate is about.
Anyway, Let's get this back on the topic of the 3.5L upgrade or this is closed. Gracias
Anyway, Let's get this back on the topic of the 3.5L upgrade or this is closed. Gracias
11-13-2003, 07:40 AM
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I dont think that you manufactured that time slip, I just think that on that day (35 degrees /low humidity) your car was that fast and any other car in those conditions would also run 2 - 3 tenths faster than it should. Just because your car runs a time on a certain day does NOT mean that your car is that fast every day as you have proven countless of times after that day by NOT even coming close to your FREAK 14.79. Your car is a 15.0 car DEAL WITH IT , personally I dont care , YOU are the one that keeps trash talking and I always fall back in to your trap and everybody calls me a bully because of my blower but if they took the time to read all the posts they would see that in EVERY one YOU start the smack talking. Im done trying to shut you up because it doesnt matter how bad I beat you you still come back for more, just remember to start by beating John and Mike and the other N/A cars before you start with me.
Andy
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11-13-2003, 07:46 AM
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If you guys want to spat about this... start a new topic in the Racing Stories forum.... oh and BTW, the 2004 V6 Accord should be running high 14's stock, while the 2001-2003 auto CL-S' run high 14's to low 15's... so I'm not sure what all the debate is about.
Anyway, Let's get this back on the topic of the 3.5L upgrade or this is closed.
If you guys want to spat about this... start a new topic in the Racing Stories forum.... oh and BTW, the 2004 V6 Accord should be running high 14's stock, while the 2001-2003 auto CL-S' run high 14's to low 15's... so I'm not sure what all the debate is about.
Anyway, Let's get this back on the topic of the 3.5L upgrade or this is closed.
And what's the time going to be? 13.5 or better?
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11-13-2003, 08:06 AM
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All I ever gain on the v-tech controler was 3 hp I only use my v-tech cont. for the tack. For launching and shifting ck it next time at the track and you will see it is not set up for fuel,I WANT TO SEE YOU IN THE low 14's but you will have to go with nos till there other mods for your car you will fill good when you are there hey tool I dont think you are bully because you are S/C I wish I had it.
All I ever gain on the v-tech controler was 3 hp I only use my v-tech cont. for the tack. For launching and shifting ck it next time at the track and you will see it is not set up for fuel,I WANT TO SEE YOU IN THE low 14's but you will have to go with nos till there other mods for your car you will fill good when you are there hey tool I dont think you are bully because you are S/C I wish I had it.
11-13-2003, 08:18 AM
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Originally posted by RUF87
Good point, so who's going to be the first with a S/C 3.5???
And what's the time going to be? 13.5 or better?
Ruf
Good point, so who's going to be the first with a S/C 3.5???
And what's the time going to be? 13.5 or better?
Ruf
11-13-2003, 08:39 AM
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Originally posted by civic4982
the 15 wtq sounds like a scam to me. some f*cker must have dyno'd in the wrong gear to begin with. but then again if you want to throw your money away to get a VAFC and then pay a pretty penny to have a tuned... go ahead.
the 15 wtq sounds like a scam to me. some f*cker must have dyno'd in the wrong gear to begin with. but then again if you want to throw your money away to get a VAFC and then pay a pretty penny to have a tuned... go ahead.
given the car is already pretty modded.
11-13-2003, 08:46 AM
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Originally posted by CLpower
I've seen incredible gains w/ a vafc on a b series, i bet the K series is just as good given the car is already pretty modded.
I've seen incredible gains w/ a vafc on a b series, i bet the K series is just as good
given the car is already pretty modded.
11-13-2003, 10:09 AM
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shit im going 13.5 or better by the first of the year
shit im going 13.5 or better by the first of the year
Keep us posted . . .
So, now that typeR claims the 13.5 mark without a S/C, will he go for 12s with a S/C.
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11-13-2003, 04:14 PM
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oh yeah so Austin's s/c got delayed again by his distributor. The guy called him and was like "hey we're kinda short on cash right now can we delay your supercharger for 3 more months?" I know that Austin ordered his S/C back paid in full back in August. They've given us one excuse after another. It's supposed to go ahead and get shipped this week so we should see it by next week. Dealing with these guys has been the ultimate hassle.
11-13-2003, 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by civic4982
dude... a 7th gen Accord coupe should be running mid 14s... STOCK!!!
is your car broken 03TLPlatinum ?
Tool is right... VAFC isn't worth shit on a dyno nor at the tracks. We've had plenty of guys try itout here in thE CL board and their gains have been minimal. I call bulshit until I see a dyno for your tuner 03TL_Platinum. You'll be lucky to get 3-5HP gain and 3-5lbft.
the 15 wtq sounds like a scam to me. some f*cker must have dyno'd in the wrong gear to begin with. but then again if you want to throw your money away to get a VAFC and then pay a pretty penny to have a tuned... go ahead.
I know the only reputable tuner in Dallas (Jotech) charges about $150 to dyno tune a VAFC. Save your money for an s/c or other methods of boost or really build the motor.
dude... a 7th gen Accord coupe should be running mid 14s... STOCK!!!
is your car broken 03TLPlatinum ?
Tool is right... VAFC isn't worth shit on a dyno nor at the tracks. We've had plenty of guys try itout here in thE CL board and their gains have been minimal. I call bulshit until I see a dyno for your tuner 03TL_Platinum. You'll be lucky to get 3-5HP gain and 3-5lbft.
the 15 wtq sounds like a scam to me. some f*cker must have dyno'd in the wrong gear to begin with. but then again if you want to throw your money away to get a VAFC and then pay a pretty penny to have a tuned... go ahead.
I know the only reputable tuner in Dallas (Jotech) charges about $150 to dyno tune a VAFC. Save your money for an s/c or other methods of boost or really build the motor.
http://www.v6performance.net/forums/...091&forumid=97
11-13-2003, 04:19 PM
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03TL_ Platinum : sorry we're off this topic... check the mod's post above ^^^ ... if you want, just PM me and I'll explain to you what I think of your car and the VAFC...
As for the 3.5L , who else is looking into having Dean do this to their CLS or TLS?
As for the 3.5L , who else is looking into having Dean do this to their CLS or TLS?
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Originally posted by tool462
I dont think that you manufactured that time slip, I just think that on that day (35 degrees /low humidity) your car was that fast and any other car in those conditions would also run 2 - 3 tenths faster than it should. Just because your car runs a time on a certain day does NOT mean that your car is that fast every day as you have proven countless of times after that day by NOT even coming close to your FREAK 14.79. Your car is a 15.0 car DEAL WITH IT , personally I dont care , YOU are the one that keeps trash talking and I always fall back in to your trap and everybody calls me a bully because of my blower but if they took the time to read all the posts they would see that in EVERY one YOU start the smack talking. Im done trying to shut you up because it doesnt matter how bad I beat you you still come back for more, just remember to start by beating John and Mike and the other N/A cars before you start with me.
Andy
I dont think that you manufactured that time slip, I just think that on that day (35 degrees /low humidity) your car was that fast and any other car in those conditions would also run 2 - 3 tenths faster than it should. Just because your car runs a time on a certain day does NOT mean that your car is that fast every day as you have proven countless of times after that day by NOT even coming close to your FREAK 14.79. Your car is a 15.0 car DEAL WITH IT , personally I dont care , YOU are the one that keeps trash talking and I always fall back in to your trap and everybody calls me a bully because of my blower but if they took the time to read all the posts they would see that in EVERY one YOU start the smack talking. Im done trying to shut you up because it doesnt matter how bad I beat you you still come back for more, just remember to start by beating John and Mike and the other N/A cars before you start with me.
Andy
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Originally posted by civic4982
... if you want, just PM me and I'll explain to you what I think of your car and the VAFC...
... if you want, just PM me and I'll explain to you what I think of your car and the VAFC...
CLS6: 14.6
Accord 6spd: 14.5
thanks but please don't PM me about your radical ideas thanks.
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Originally posted by 03TL_PlaTinUM
yeah, 15flat huh? you always leave out all the other VERY IMPORTANT DETAILS. don't 60', and trap speed matter? dude a car runs a 15flat @ 95mph, with a 2.44 60', and you call that slow? what are your 60'? 2.1 usually right? the same as tag, mike, and john. for every .1 you subtract from the 60' subtract 1.5secs off the ET!!!
yeah, 15flat huh? you always leave out all the other VERY IMPORTANT DETAILS. don't 60', and trap speed matter? dude a car runs a 15flat @ 95mph, with a 2.44 60', and you call that slow? what are your 60'? 2.1 usually right? the same as tag, mike, and john. for every .1 you subtract from the 60' subtract 1.5secs off the ET!!!
and yours usually says 15.00 hahaha
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