dfv3.2CL-S

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and i was very disappointed with my car's performance . It was the first time at the track. The temp at track was 76 degrees and 40% humidity. First, my car is all stock with exception for the headers (CT) and with 5286 miles on the clock. I have all the general stock spare parts in the trunk in addition to JL audio subbox. Track was somewhat damp from previous rain and traction was a bitch. Also I was nervous. Well, these were my different solo runs after getting killed by S2000 on my initial run where everthing went wrong. no traction, hit limiter twice and reaction time was patetic.

2nd run
RT ..758
60ft nothing on that line
660 nothing on that line
MPH 91.87
ET 15.881

3rd run
RT .825
60ft 2.709
660 nothing on that line
MPH 93.96
ET 15.458

4th run
RT 1.011
60ft nothing
660 nothing on that line
MPH 92.96
ET 15.429

5th run
RT .651
60ft 2.569
660 nothing on that line
MPH 93.96
ET 15.403


What the heck am I doing wrong? Should'nt I be able to get this car at least in the high 14s even stock. my tire pressure was 28 on the front and 32 on rear.

civic4982

some cars are just built slower than others. It's a 1 in 20 kinda deal but it's been known to happen. From your 60' times it looks like you're doing a rolling start and not beating your clutch like you want a new one.

JagV12

Its your launch. Look at your 60ft times. you are either spinning to much or you just can't launch. You should be 2.2-2.3 60ft. 14.6@98 is what you should be at for average. Even better after practice.

Black CL-S 4-Life

You can't drive. A 6sp CL-S with an average driver can run mid to high 14s all day long.

Chaptorial

Yikes a six speed CL-S with headers not breaking into the 14's? Something ain't right here.

fuzzy02CLS

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Not really. My first time at the track was jusy like dfv3.2CL-S's. I had no traction cause I had 40PSI all around. Finally lowered to 26 front & got my wopping 15.1. That was with an icebox. Guess I can't drive either I guess I have the 2nd worst CLS-6speed track times. Havent been to the track again. I'll wait to go again once the FL weather gets cool in January.

Hurdlemaker

hey man. I went to the track a couple of days ago. It was above 85 degrees. I have a 2003 cls auto. I ran 15.1 at 93mph. I had horrible wheel hop off of the line. My car is stock and I was upset with my time. Man if I were you I would be fcking pissed off.

Joe5.0

You really have to baby it off the line. My best time came from slipping it out of the hole at 2000 rpm, and once I felt I had traction I floored it. I also got a little hop/spin on the 1-2 shift, but I powershift so you probably don't have to worry about that if you aren't powershifting.

Just get some better tires and go back when it's cool and low humidity. I was kinda pissed I couldnt get lower than 14.8, but I am bone stock, and I did zero weight loss and left the tire pressure alone.

All you can do is practice and go back. I was nervous my 1st time at the drag strip too, and ran my Mustang to like low 15s cuz I couldn't launch at all.

flint

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Check your actuator

darrinb

were goin to the track atleast twice beofre it closes, gettin my crank pulley in next week!!!

dfv3.2CL-S

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Who the hell are you to pass judgement that I cant drive. Fool! I have been driving stick for over 20yrs and have gone to several driving schools. BTW, I have a modded 98 Jetta VR6 and for some reason I can run it at 14.8 consitently and its a 5 spd. I imagine I cant drive but I would be right beside you base on you qt mile times.

I would appreciate you read and help with what i need to do with this specific car to get it into the mid to low 14s and not insult.

Joe5.0

What I would be more concerned with is the low mph if I were you. Even with 85* and humid weather conditions I hit 94.5-95 mph every single pass down. I ran like a 15.1, 14.9, 14.89, and 14.81. But, every single pass was like I said in the middle 90's. I would maybe run a diagnostic on the ECU to see if there are any hidden codes, and make sure that VTEC is engaging when it should be. With headers you should be well into the mid/high 90's even with crappy weather conditions. Also, what is your altitude because that makes a huge difference if you are racing in thin air.

You're not gonna get 14's until you get your 60' into a more respectable range. Anything over 2.4 is not good at all, and I think ideal with stock suspension and stock tires is probably low 2.2's realistically. My best 60' was 2.342, but that was bogging it because dropping the clutch from any rpm above 1k would result in wheel-hop.

Black CL-S 4-Life

Look man I didn't mean to insult you. I just thought that time for a 6sp CL-S with headers was slow that's all. But just like everyone else says just work on your launch.

dfv3.2CL-S

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I know its slow, and I just want some advice on what I would neeeeed to do to improve my time with stock suspension and tires. I just dont think that sub box or removing spare tire would help that much with traction or lowering the time in the low 14s.

fuzzy02CLS

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Get a better track day. That's the first step. Low humid, low temp. Next if you have to use stock tires, lower the front to 24PSI or below, raise the rear to 38-40PSI.

civic4982

uhhh, He's right! Saying that you can't drive THIS CAR is definitely true. You may be great at the other cars you own but look at the 60's and other #s... They tell all...

I ran a 14.5 @ 98 with no mods and on stock tires. My average all night was 14.6s. Even I had shitty ass 60' times ranging from mid 2.3 to mid 2.4s.

Feather off the line, give it WOT, shift quickly...

Sounds like you're either spinning too much on your launch or you're rolling off the line. Either way, with that many passes you shoulda gotten a feel for the car more so you'll do better next time.

It could have maybe been the track conditions?

GS Dave

Well, your 60s are killing you, remember every tenth reduction in your sixty is 1.5 tenths on teh big end. I would remove the sub-box(if feasible) and the spare too, the extra weight slows you down, and is at the wrong end of the car for traction.

Were you spiining off the line? From your trap speeds, it looks like you might have bogged a bit at the line hence the slower 60 ft and low trap speed, if you spun, the trap speed should be way higher.

I think you just need more practice in the car, every car is different, and needs to be launched differently.

Out of curiosity, what is the tracks elevation?

dfv3.2CL-S

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I dont know about elevation, just know that i live near to mexico and the RioGrand river is just about 800 meters away from the track. Out here in Texas everthing is real flat.

civic4982

yeah, you don't have any elevation to worry about. it shoudln't be affecting your time... it's just your launch that's killing you. With headers you should be down to a 14.2-14.5 in this heat.

pimpscls

that is sad sorry man nice try begginers luck hopefully

tdtsai

Your reaction time is too long, so if you work on your reaction time, you should be much quicker. Hope this helps

civic4982

reaction time has nothing to do with his 1/4 time. They're seperate.

civic4982

oh hey, and if you're in the area on October 15 some of us Central Texas guys (Austin, San ANtonio) are gonna go to Rivercity raceway in San Antonio. We could work on that launch of yours and maybe feel out the clutch for correct launching to optimize traction.

numbaonestunna

Hmm.... sounds like your VTEC is broken. Better have it checked out. =)