johntypes

Sonor Kid
Mine is up in july but I am going to exstend it to 75000

flint

iTrader: (2)

I will be in for the Unichip or e-manage but I am waiting to see gains on the e-manage before making a decision.

power3dfx

these guys need to drop the price a bit, ask for 40 people, and i think this shit will happen. anyways, for now:
i think i will be the first one to say it: IM IN

but if they cant give us the chip with pnp for less than 600, i don't think this GB will get anywhere, as the emanage WILL produce gains and this will turn into the AEM vs. Icebox war, except with much more difference in price and little difference in hp/tq

typeR

he should test a 3.5 in Fl.

DISRUPTV

theres one around huntington last time i checked

sonor kid

Haven't had a chance to view what's been going on since work, but I want to thank Scalbert for pointing out the differences in the connections for the auto and 6 speed regarding chip plug in.
I thought John was who I spoke with but I guess it could have been Jack.
He simply stated that if we could get 20 people to commit, they would make the chip for plug and play in either car, auto or 6 speed and with a 2 year guarantee. It could be installed or uninstalled in minutes by anyone of us. It's been tuned for the auto and they are offering one for the six speed if we can get someone over there. They didn't discuss the economics of buying the parts, I assumed that. Since they offered it for both based on 20 cars, that may not be an issue.
They just won't waste the time to source the parts if they don't have at least 20 people interested.
For the other cars they do, 20 is no problem.
I'll lead the group buy if you guys want, we'll see who will commit, so let me know if you really want this. The price will be roughly $600 for the group buy and $800 on an individual basis with no plug and play.
The Emanage looks promising too, so you decide. Hopefully Scalbert will get an auto mapped with the Greddy so we can compare.

Red Rider

What do you think about doing it for the SCd 5AT Matt ?

scalbert

IMO, I would not look at that. They claimed to be able to do the SC'd cars but after I spoke with the tech there he said, after I filled him in on our specifics and the limitation in the ECU reading boost (hence the need for the ESM in the Comptech kit), that they would need to add additional injectors.

Just FYI, the e-Manage has been in my car for over two months now without a problem. The original concept was that the Unichip would be for the NA cars and the e-Manage would be for the boosted cars. This was based on the abilities and shortcomings of both system and which could best satisfy the requirements. This may still be the case but it is unknow but will soon be tested. But, without a doubt, the e-Manage is still a prefered product for boost application as it does pull timing and can directly extend the injector pulse width. However, on NA vehicles the jury is still out.

Red Rider

As always, thanks Bro !

Ant7701

very intrested but still want a final price, pics, real dyno graph, ya know the actual FACTS. And I want to wait to see the e-manage N/A dyno. But like I said am very intrested!!!

DISRUPTV

heres my take on unichip


some of us av6'ers have it on our av6....however thats only for the 98-99 accord v6 owners since these cars didnt have a direct injection system like the cl and the 00-02 accords


those that have it on their 98--99 accords have seen rather good gains....where as most people w/ i/h/e dyno arnd the 170whp range w/their av6, people w/these bolt ons plus a unichip and proper tuning have seen whp as high as 200whp!....the mod is most def. worth it if done right and for the v6, it comes 2 abt $1k for all the mods and proper unichip tuning...

Ant7701

OK...so if the AV6 guys are getting approx 30 at the wheels from this uni-chip, do u guys think that our map needs to be looked over some more and see if anything was done wrong or skipped. Maybe we can get some more power out of it...

scalbert

I beleive you meant direct ignition or rather distributorless ignition system, coil-on-plug, etc.

They all had sequential fuel injection.

scalbert

Although I was not aware of the Unichip on the AV6, I thought it was never completed. The potential reason for gains like this is the conservative timing run due to not having a knock control system on those years AV6's. By running 93 octane and advancing the timing, noticeable gains could be had on a subdued system.

That is not the case with the CL-S. Although there is some room to advance the timing, it is already pretty good.

BTW, this is just speculation based on what I have been made aware of.

DISRUPTV

oops typo....


yes sir direct ignition


u are correct once again...the timing on the av6s were advanced vastly and the gains were only relaized via premium fuel...

...granted the cl will not see as drastic gains, but if they can get an additional 10whp across the board on an auto cl-s/tl-s, i think the mod will be worth it

ModAddict

Assume 10hp and $700, based on that statement.

bigman

would the unichip work on a 99 TL.

power3dfx

yes, but you will have to get it tuned first. the one they are making will be tuned for a type s with mods, so it shouldnt work. i could be wrong though./.

mc222

Just to put my and to further help guage interest - Id purchase if it was PnP....

sonor kid

The only way we can get plug n play is with commitments to buy from people who want one, like yourself.
They aren't going to make it plug n play just because we say we'll buy it.
I really think $600.00 will get it done.

Ant7701

At $600 u will see a good amount of buyers...at $700 u really won't...not worth it then IMO

derelict

I think anyone who's willing to pay 600 for this, will pay 700. But the problem is most people are waiting to see which of the two solutions is going to yield better gains...

power3dfx

believe me, i wouldnt want to pay 700. if it were 700, i would hold off on it since i could buy the emanage and get it tuned specifically for my car for at most that price. 600 is more reasonable, but i think somewhere around 500 would make this fly alot easier.
see, these guys could of had more sales of these had they brought it up about a year ago.
the cl/tl have changed and discontinued, and the longer people have a car, the less willing they will be to spend money on it.
not to bring in another argument, but cars are getting faster from the factory, and that makes even more options available to people. thats why i am hesitant to spend more on mine, especially since it took so much just to barely stay ahead of a factory g35 coupe.
im still in though, because there is a chance i will be retuning the chip in the future so at least i can enjoy the extra push for now.

Still though, 2 problems remain:
1. We need to organize a GB, and most importantly set the PRICE with PnP.
2. We should get this GB opened up soon and have it open until the emanage has proven itself. Those who will purchase this unichip will jump on it if there is enough gain to justify the extra price.

I am just throwing out my opinion, but being around for a while ive seen how people respond to GB's and i think if we dont do the above two, this wont get anywhere.

blader

see if I hadn't just spent like 3-4G's on icebox, headers, sways, brakelines, springs, shocks, exhaust, wheels, and tires I might be in it for this mod .. but another 600 just doesn't fly. why does it have to be so expensive?? I don't get it .. back when I had an Explorer, a custom diablo chip was like 190$ shipped! lol

power3dfx

maybe silicon prices have gone up?

scalbert

Beacause it is not a chip... It is not a EEPROM swap or reprogramming...

It is a stand alone computer which works in conjunction with the factory computer. Not to mention that there is a lmuch more limited market compared to the Explorer

darrinb

i aint payin 700 for 10hp