1foxbody

I've been keeping my eye on a wrecked 01 cl type -s auto with 96k miles locally and the seller has came down on the price a lot. So I decided to go look at the car in person yesterday. If I bought it I would just swap the type s engine and trans straight into my car. It's still a auto but I can get the car for cheap. I would take everything I want off the car first then have a complete part out. I have a 02 cl-p how hard is it to do the conversion? Just need the cluster and ecu correct? Is the engine wiring harness the same?

CL-S progression 01

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um and the seats and the shift knob and the sway bars are all different. and many many more things which i'm sure someone will soon shed light on

rp_guy

what's the point? just sell your car.

1foxbody

My thought my trans was done around 8,000 miles ago but suddenly it started working again so I've been driving it the past few months. My car also has about 40k miles more. There's no clean 03 type-s 6 speeds black on black locally worth selling my car for.

1foxbody

I knew about the seats and shift knob. I didn't know the sway bars were different though. I already have 03 door panels and rear interior quarter panels in my car with the silver trim that I picked up.

civicdrivr

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The front sway is the same size, the rear is different. The steering ratios are quicker on the Type S as well. The ABS system is 3 channel on the CL-P vs the CL-S Autos 4 channel system (the 03 6MT however uses the 3 channel system).

I think the harness wiring is different but I cant be 100% sure.

I dont think its worth going from a CL-P automatic to a CL-S automatic. You still have that transmission which is a $2000 time bomb. The only difference now is you have more power going through it.

ChucksCL-S

You could also put on the Type-S wheels, headers, light weight crank pulley and CAI and you are just about there for cheap!

katoom

I'd think you'd be better off getting a 3.5L to swap in than wasting time, money and effort on that Type-S swap. You could find a decent price on a low mileage odyssey motor to put in your CL-P. Based upon what I've read, it might be a better deal than putting the J32 out of the Type-S in there. It'll also be less work than trying to convert you P into an S... unless that's what you're going to try to do.

Jacobpockros

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Where did you find this out?

civicdrivr

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Honda.

p.diddy

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i would go 3.6 swap instead of an S swap.

gnuts

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buy my 6speed

fuzzy02CLS

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If you have the time & $ go for it. But doesn't makes a lot of sense.

nspec_ya4

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definitely doesnt make sense to do this kind of a swap. you will be better off buying a wrecked 6 speed and swapping that over with pretty much the same amount of labor.

aznboi2424

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Engineering

Engine type 3.2-liter, SOHC VTEC V-6
Horsepower 3.2CL - 225 hp @ 5600 rpm
Type S - 260 hp @ 6100 rpm
Torque, SAE Net 3.2CL - 217 lb.-ft. @ 4700 rpm
Type S - 232 lb.-ft. @ 3500-5500 rpm
Redline 3.2CL - 6300 rpm Type S - 6900 rpm
Fuel Cutoff 3.2CL - 6600 rpm Type S - 7000 rpm
Bore & Stroke 3.50 in. x 3.39 in. (89 mm x 86 mm)
Displacement 196 cu. in. (3210 cc)
Compression Ratio 3.2CL - 9.8:1
Type S - 10.5:1
Induction System Programmed Fuel Injection (PGM-FI)
Valvetrain Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control (VTEC), 4 valves per cylinder, belt-driven, single overhead camshaft
Engine Block Aluminum alloy with cast-in iron cylinder liners
Cylinder Head Aluminum alloy
Emission Control Electronically controlled EGR ULEV emission control (CA/49 state)
Type S - Electronically controlled EGR LEV emission control (CA/49 state)
Ignition System Electronic direct ignition system with knock control
Alternator 3.2CL - 105 amp. max
Type S - 120 amp. max
Battery 12V, maintenance free
Powertrain Transverse mounted, front engine, front-wheel drive
100,000-Mile Tune-up No tune-ups for 100,000 miles* interval
*Does not apply to fluid and filter changes or periodic inspections. Please refer to the maintenance section of your owner's manual to determine all appropriate maintenance intervals.

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Body/Suspension/Chassis

Body Type All steel-unit body
Front Suspension Independent double-wishbone with coil springs and stabilizer bar
Rear Suspension Independent multi-link double-wishbone with coil springs and stabilizer bar
Shock Absorbers Gas-pressurized with Acura Progressive Valve technology, front and rear
Stabilizer Bars Front - 27.2 mm diameter (tubular) x 4.5 mm wall thickness
Rear - 18.0 mm diameter solid
(Type S - 19.0 mm diameter) solid
Steering Type Variable power-assisted, rack and pinion
Steering Wheel Turns,
Lock-to-Lock 3.2CL - 3.06
Type S - 2.88
Turning Circle, Curb-to-Curb:
3.2CL: 37.4 ft. (5.7 m)

Type S: 39.4 ft. (6.0 m)


Wheels:
3.2CL: 16 x 6.5 JJ cast-aluminum alloy

Type S: 17 x 7.0 JJ cast-aluminum alloy


Tires:
3.2CL: P205/60R16 91V Michelin MXV4-Plus

Type S: P215/50R17 93V Michelin MXM4 Pilot


Braking System Dual-diagonal, power assisted, 4-wheel disc brakes
Front Discs Ventilated, 11.8 in. (300 mm) diameter; 1.1 in. (28 mm) rotor thickness
Rear Discs Solid, 11.1 in. (282 mm) diameter; 0.35 in. (9 mm) rotor thickness
Anti-Lock Braking System (ABS) 3.2CL - 3-channel system with 4 wheel speed sensors and electric/hydraulic control
Type S - 4-channel system with 4 wheel speed sensors and electric/hydraulic control
Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA) Throttle control, fuel control, and 2-channel brake control utilizing yaw, lateral g, speed and steering sensors for traction control and stability enhancement (available on the Type S only.)

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Transmission

5-speed Sequential SportShift automatic transmission with Grade Logic Control
Ratios (: 1):
1st: 2.563

2nd: 1.551

3rd: 1.021

4th: 0.653

5th: 0.470

Reverse: 1.846

Final: 4.428



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Safety & Security

Antilock Braking System (ABS)
Traction Control System (TCS)
Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA)*
Driver and front passenger air bags with dual-stage passenger air bag Supplemental Restraint System (SRS)
Driver and front passenger side air bag with Acura-exclusive front passenger height and position sensors
Xenon High Intensity Discharge (HID) Headlights
3-point seat belts (all seats)
Front Seat belt pretensioners with load-limiters
Side-impact door beams
Front and rear crumple zones
Rear child seat tether anchors
Rear window defroster with timer
Theft-deterrent system
Remote keyless entry system with panic alarm feature
Electronic immobilizer system
*Available on Type S only

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Comfort & Convenience

Automatic Climate Control System
Passenger compartment Micron Air Filtration system
Acura/BOSE® in-dash 6-disc CD player/Cassette/AM-FM stereo with anti-theft feature, 6-speaker system
Optional Acura Navigation System
Steering wheel-mounted remote audio controls
Steering wheel mounted cruise control
Tilt steering wheel
Speed-sensing intermittent windshield wipers with mist feature
Power moonroof with tilt feature and sliding sunshade
Overhead map lights
Overhead sunglasses storage compartment
Automatic day/night rearview mirror
Illuminated driver and front passenger vanity mirror
HomeLink® remote control system
Front center console with adjustable armrest
Illuminated front center console storage
Dual accessory power outlets (one in center console)
Front and rear dual beverage holders
In-dash note pad tray*
Multiple storage compartments in door
Metallic-finish instrument panel display**
Quartz Clock**
Dual trip meters
Maintenance interval reminder
Auto-off headlights
Remote keyless trunk release
In-trunk shopping bag hook
In-trunk storage tray
In-trunk cargo net
*Not available with Navigation System
**Available on the Type S only

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Seating & Trim

Perforated leather-trimmed seating surfaces+
Leather trimmed seating surfaces++
8-way power driver seat with power walk-in feature
4-way power passenger seat with power walk-in feature
Remote keyless-linked memory driver's seats and outside mirrors
Heated front seats
Adjustable driver's seat lumbar support
Adjustable front headrests
Driver and passenger seat back pockets
Dual bucket rear seats
Lockable rear center storage compartment
Locking trunk pass-through
Bright wood-grained trim*
Dark wood-grained trim**
Carpeted floor mats
+Available on the Type S only
++Available on the 3.2CL only
*Not available on Type S with Ebony interior
**Only available on Type S with Ebony interior

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Exterior Features

Road lamps
Heated power-operated outside mirrors with passenger side reverse-tilt feature
Heat rejecting green glass
Printed radio antenna (rear glass)
Galvanized body panels

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Capacities

EPA Passenger Volume - 90.0 cu. ft.
EPA Cargo Volume - 13.6 cu. ft.
Fuel Tank - 17.2 US gal. (65.0 L)
Crankcase Refill Capacity, including filter - 4.6 US qt. (4.4 L)
Cooling System - 7.8 US qt. (7.4 L)

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Fuel Economy

Recommended Fuel - Premium unleaded; 91 octane
EPA estimated mileage, city/highway: 3.2CL - 19/29*, Type S - 19/29*
*Use for comparison purposes only. California figures are the same. Your mileage may vary. Factory estimates; EPA figures not available at time of printing.

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Dimensions

Exterior:
Wheelbase: 106.9 in.

Track, front: 61.1 in.

Track, rear: 61.0 in.

Overall length: 192.0 in.

Overall width: 70.6 in.

Overall height: 55.5 in.

Minimum Ground Clearance (non-load): 6.2 in.

Curb Weight: 3470 lb. (3485 lb. with Navigation System)

Type S: 3510 lb. (3525 lb. with Navigation System)

Weight Distribution(% front/rear): 63/37


Interior:
Head Room: 37.5 in.36.7 in.

Leg Room: 42.4 in.33.0 in.

Hip Room: 52.9 in.50.4 in.

Shoulder Room: 56.4 in.54.2 in.

katoom

It just seems like a lot of work to swap around between a CL-P and a CL-S for the marginal gains. I was pretty impressed with the P, though I had a little remorse over not getting a CL-S. All of the Type S's that I found in my area had over 100K and most had a salvage title. We found our CL-P with 53K and grandma owned and garaged most of the time. I couldn't pass it up. When the tranny gives it up, I'm swapping the motor to a 3.5 and getting newer auto.

I wish you luck on whatever you decide. It's always fun getting into a project. You'd probably make some money parting it out.

1foxbody

I would love to pick up a 03 type s 6 speed black on black but it's like impossible to find one with low miles and in great condition. I always keep a eye out on them because I would sell my car in a second to buy one.

gnuts

iTrader: (1)

buy mine, but it;s SSM

Jacobpockros

iTrader: (1)

How low of miles is low?

CL-S progression 01

iTrader: (2)

what u don't like ur car gnutz

1foxbody

Under 100k I actually found one today that caught my eye. It's at a acura dealership but it's 13 hrs 18 mins / 831.57 miles away haha. I called to find out some more details on it. I'm going to see what my options are and I might buy it.

ghttf

Lately I have been eyeing W210 E55s. 349hp, RWD, vented seats, and old school Benz reliability for $10k

CL-S progression 01

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IMHO 100k isn't exactly low miles.

50k is more in the range of being allow to be deemed "low miles"

gnuts

iTrader: (1)

my 6speed only has 70,000 miles. buy it!

1foxbody

I think it's safe to say it's almost impossible to find a 03 type s 6 speed black on black that's in very good condition bone stock with more in the range of 50k miles. I've been keeping a eye out for this exact car for awhile and I actually found one today. I spoke to a friend that lives close by the dealership and he's going to go check out the car Sat morning. Depending on what he says I might be picking myself up the car I really wanted for awhile now. I'll let you know how it goes guys wish me luck!

1foxbody

Gnutz I want black on black lol.

gnuts

iTrader: (1)

1 for 2 aint bad...

nspec_ya4

iTrader: (38)

buy mine then.

1foxbody

The one I'm looking at is a trade in at a acura dealership only has one owner, bone stock, original paint with no body work, and under 100k miles. From the pictures it looks mint and not abused. So it all depends what my friend says after he checks the car out this Sat. I don't want anything with mods and that's been abused by a young person lol.

nspec_ya4

iTrader: (38)

abused? lol. i guess it has been a little.

Jacobpockros

iTrader: (1)

My car can be turned 100% back to stock. I save all the original parts to my car so that when I chose to sell it one day, it will be sold in stock form including the original tires. As far as abuse goes, these cars always get redlined here and there and to tell you the truth, the motors can take it and still run upwards of 300,000 miles.

1foxbody

Lol I bet haha. I know my 02 has haha.

Good idea as long as it's no one from this forum that knows your car. Ohh I know they can handle the abuse I just rather buy one from a owner who hasn't and keep all the abusing to me lol. How many miles does yours have?

Jacobpockros

iTrader: (1)

55,750

1foxbody

Wow that's very low congratulations. The one I'm interested in basically has 89k. I hope everything is good with it. I can't wait to sell my 02 cl-p and finally own a 03 cl-s haha.