Type R owner making the Switch to a 03 CL type S
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Type R owner making the Switch to a 03 CL type S
well I just wanted to welcome myself to this Board. some of you that Visit Honda-Tech Might know me as Vegeta the Moderator of the Type R forum.
I have driven a integra for about 5 years now. one LS, one GSR and 2 Type R's(the first of which was stolen)
well about a month ago my engine seized up due to a Spun rod bearing on Cyl number 3. so I take my car to acura and they inform me that I wont be able to recieve a Engine untill Aug 15. Under Florida Lemon law this entitle's me to return my car. so I decieded to take them up on the offer.
I have decieded on a 03 CL type S 6 speed.
the car is phenominal. it is extremely fast. I would almost say that in a drag race the car would pull a Type R. but on a road course w all know the outcome. but the car ws not designed for that.
From what I hae read the most popular mods are comptech springs, comptech headers/ and a 6000k HID upgrade. i have seen some nce cars in this forum. although most are alot differant from my personal taste. like big chrome rims. and huge stereo's. most cars are very nice.
I just had a question is the Navi a worth while upgrade? because it looks like it woul lose its novelty quickly. however I would love any input the members can offer.
mike
I have driven a integra for about 5 years now. one LS, one GSR and 2 Type R's(the first of which was stolen)
well about a month ago my engine seized up due to a Spun rod bearing on Cyl number 3. so I take my car to acura and they inform me that I wont be able to recieve a Engine untill Aug 15. Under Florida Lemon law this entitle's me to return my car. so I decieded to take them up on the offer.
I have decieded on a 03 CL type S 6 speed.
the car is phenominal. it is extremely fast. I would almost say that in a drag race the car would pull a Type R. but on a road course w all know the outcome. but the car ws not designed for that.
From what I hae read the most popular mods are comptech springs, comptech headers/ and a 6000k HID upgrade. i have seen some nce cars in this forum. although most are alot differant from my personal taste. like big chrome rims. and huge stereo's. most cars are very nice.
I just had a question is the Navi a worth while upgrade? because it looks like it woul lose its novelty quickly. however I would love any input the members can offer.
mike
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Re: Type R owner making the Switch to a 03 CL type S
Originally posted by Type R 0149
I just had a question is the Navi a worth while upgrade? because it looks like it woul lose its novelty quickly. however I would love any input the members can offer.
I just had a question is the Navi a worth while upgrade? because it looks like it woul lose its novelty quickly. however I would love any input the members can offer.
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I'm a Honda-Tech member too and I've seen you around over there. Anyways, Welcome Aboard!!! You can't go wrong with the 03 6spd CL-S luxury comfort+fantastic performance nuff said..
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Re: Type R owner making the Switch to a 03 CL type S
Originally posted by Type R 0149
well I just wanted to welcome myself to this Board. some of you that Visit Honda-Tech Might know me as Vegeta the Moderator of the Type R forum.
the car is phenominal. it is extremely fast. I would almost say that in a drag race the car would pull a Type R.
well I just wanted to welcome myself to this Board. some of you that Visit Honda-Tech Might know me as Vegeta the Moderator of the Type R forum.
the car is phenominal. it is extremely fast. I would almost say that in a drag race the car would pull a Type R.
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Navi?
Due tot he fact that you used to own integra's and you probably are looking to be more on the speedy side, I wouldn't go for the Navi. It is an extra 50 lbs you don't need, and you won't be missing it since you had integs. But if you want you can convert it so it can play DVD's, which would be really cool. I didn't get it because i don't need to pay 2000 for something that's gonna weight me down and I'm never gonna use.
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If you have any questions about installing hydraulics, which 20s will fit, or how many 15" subs you can cram in the car, give me a PM. I'd be happy to help you out
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Re: Type R owner making the Switch to a 03 CL type S
Welcome!
The mods I would suggest doing in the following order (I think most people would agree with this):
1 - Comptech swaybars
2 - AEM CAI
3 - Comptech sport springs and Koni yellow struts OR NEX or TIEN full coilovers - depending on if you want a more fixed suspension setup or the ability to create your own height and ride settings.
4 - Comptech headers
5 - Tires. By now you've put some miles on the stockers and you realize how crappy they are. I suggest waiting until now to change them because you want to be sure your suspension setup isn't cambered or anything - better to do all the tweaking on the stock tires!![Wink](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
I just had a question is the Navi a worth while upgrade? because it looks like it woul lose its novelty quickly. however I would love any input the members can offer.
mike
I don't have the Navi and I've never needed it. I have put 28k miles on my car in the year-and-a-month I've had it. I drive all over but I've never needed more than a map or MapQuest/MapsOnUs to get me where I'm going.
I suppose if you tend to get lost a lot or you're a pizza delivery guy, you might want that navi. Personally I'd find it more distracting than anything. Save the $2k and use it for mods.
Originally posted by Type R 0149
From what I hae read the most popular mods are comptech springs, comptech headers/ and a 6000k HID upgrade. i have seen some nce cars in this forum. although most are alot differant from my personal taste. like big chrome rims. and huge stereo's. most cars are very nice.
From what I hae read the most popular mods are comptech springs, comptech headers/ and a 6000k HID upgrade. i have seen some nce cars in this forum. although most are alot differant from my personal taste. like big chrome rims. and huge stereo's. most cars are very nice.
1 - Comptech swaybars
2 - AEM CAI
3 - Comptech sport springs and Koni yellow struts OR NEX or TIEN full coilovers - depending on if you want a more fixed suspension setup or the ability to create your own height and ride settings.
4 - Comptech headers
5 - Tires. By now you've put some miles on the stockers and you realize how crappy they are. I suggest waiting until now to change them because you want to be sure your suspension setup isn't cambered or anything - better to do all the tweaking on the stock tires!
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I just had a question is the Navi a worth while upgrade? because it looks like it woul lose its novelty quickly. however I would love any input the members can offer.
mike
I suppose if you tend to get lost a lot or you're a pizza delivery guy, you might want that navi. Personally I'd find it more distracting than anything. Save the $2k and use it for mods.
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I got the Nav just for a toy. It is unbelievable how often I use it. I always knew that I had a bad since of direction, but I think it is getting worse. I think it is worth it.
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I have been building B-series Civics and Integra's for years now. I have decieded to go for a more race aproach to the CLS
1st on my list is to buy 17' Mugen MF-10's the weigh 15 lbs. and will cut down on rotational mass alot.
Second I will invest in the TEIN suspension(used on my DC2 teg before great setup)
then I will install the Comptech Sway bars.
After that I am going to begin to do research on what engine Mods to do.
I am also gonna contact alot of my friends in the honda buisness in japan. I want to see with anyone has made a higher Final drive for the 6-speed. I think these cars with a little tighter gears would be great.
I also plan on removing at least 200lbs of weight from the car.
1st on my list is to buy 17' Mugen MF-10's the weigh 15 lbs. and will cut down on rotational mass alot.
Second I will invest in the TEIN suspension(used on my DC2 teg before great setup)
then I will install the Comptech Sway bars.
After that I am going to begin to do research on what engine Mods to do.
I am also gonna contact alot of my friends in the honda buisness in japan. I want to see with anyone has made a higher Final drive for the 6-speed. I think these cars with a little tighter gears would be great.
I also plan on removing at least 200lbs of weight from the car.
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congrats.
stock for stock a 6spd cl would spank a type r integra in the 1/4. no contest.
stock for stock a 6spd cl would spank a type r integra in the 1/4. no contest.
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Originally posted by Type R 0149
I am also gonna contact alot of my friends in the honda buisness in japan. I want to see with anyone has made a higher Final drive for the 6-speed. I think these cars with a little tighter gears would be great.
I also plan on removing at least 200lbs of weight from the car.
I am also gonna contact alot of my friends in the honda buisness in japan. I want to see with anyone has made a higher Final drive for the 6-speed. I think these cars with a little tighter gears would be great.
I also plan on removing at least 200lbs of weight from the car.
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I've had my CL-S for almost two years now. And even after all that time, I still miss my Teg
I loved its looks, its handling, the acceleration was good enough, and build quality was much much better. It also felt better, like the car wrapped around you.
My CL-S is great, but it does feel more like you are in a reclining chair in your living room
It doesn't have that wrap around you sports car feel, and definitely not the handling (even with mods)
I think they should have made the CL coupe a bit smaller than the TL sedan.
So definitely test drive the CL-S quite a few times. Don't concentrate on the engine. Rather check out the feel as compared to your teg. It is a large adjustment.
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I loved its looks, its handling, the acceleration was good enough, and build quality was much much better. It also felt better, like the car wrapped around you.
My CL-S is great, but it does feel more like you are in a reclining chair in your living room
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I think they should have made the CL coupe a bit smaller than the TL sedan.
So definitely test drive the CL-S quite a few times. Don't concentrate on the engine. Rather check out the feel as compared to your teg. It is a large adjustment.
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Congrats and welcome !! Every mod i've done is worthwhile and would recommend them all. Sways were a huge improvement, intake i should have done sooner, the Comptech springs and Konis made it a new car and the lighter wheels and tires made it new again. Headers are awesome and well worth it. Navi is a waste in my opinion, spend the 2k on performance. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by mattg
congrats.
stock for stock a 6spd cl would spank a type r integra in the 1/4. no contest.
stock for stock a 6spd cl would spank a type r integra in the 1/4. no contest.
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Originally Posted by Type R 0149
well I just wanted to welcome myself to this Board. some of you that Visit Honda-Tech Might know me as Vegeta the Moderator of the Type R forum.
I have driven a integra for about 5 years now. one LS, one GSR and 2 Type R's(the first of which was stolen)
well about a month ago my engine seized up due to a Spun rod bearing on Cyl number 3. so I take my car to acura and they inform me that I wont be able to recieve a Engine untill Aug 15. Under Florida Lemon law this entitle's me to return my car. so I decieded to take them up on the offer.
I have decieded on a 03 CL type S 6 speed.
the car is phenominal. it is extremely fast. I would almost say that in a drag race the car would pull a Type R. but on a road course w all know the outcome. but the car ws not designed for that.
From what I hae read the most popular mods are comptech springs, comptech headers/ and a 6000k HID upgrade. i have seen some nce cars in this forum. although most are alot differant from my personal taste. like big chrome rims. and huge stereo's. most cars are very nice.
I just had a question is the Navi a worth while upgrade? because it looks like it woul lose its novelty quickly. however I would love any input the members can offer.
mike
I have driven a integra for about 5 years now. one LS, one GSR and 2 Type R's(the first of which was stolen)
well about a month ago my engine seized up due to a Spun rod bearing on Cyl number 3. so I take my car to acura and they inform me that I wont be able to recieve a Engine untill Aug 15. Under Florida Lemon law this entitle's me to return my car. so I decieded to take them up on the offer.
I have decieded on a 03 CL type S 6 speed.
the car is phenominal. it is extremely fast. I would almost say that in a drag race the car would pull a Type R. but on a road course w all know the outcome. but the car ws not designed for that.
From what I hae read the most popular mods are comptech springs, comptech headers/ and a 6000k HID upgrade. i have seen some nce cars in this forum. although most are alot differant from my personal taste. like big chrome rims. and huge stereo's. most cars are very nice.
I just had a question is the Navi a worth while upgrade? because it looks like it woul lose its novelty quickly. however I would love any input the members can offer.
mike
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welcome to the board, happy modding.
Sound like you know exactly where you want to go.
Over time, let us know how the CLS6 compares to your teg bunch.
Sound like you know exactly where you want to go.
Over time, let us know how the CLS6 compares to your teg bunch.
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Originally Posted by Red Rider
Congrats and welcome !! Every mod i've done is worthwhile and would recommend them all. Sways were a huge improvement, intake i should have done sooner, the Comptech springs and Konis made it a new car and the lighter wheels and tires made it new again. Headers are awesome and well worth it. Navi is a waste in my opinion, spend the 2k on performance. Good luck.
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no ill admit im the one that brought this one back from the dead. I saw this thread in the 'related threads' section of another thread i was looking at, so i figured it was current.
I still would like to know what a stock Type R runs in the 1/4 if anyone knows
I still would like to know what a stock Type R runs in the 1/4 if anyone knows
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I still would like to know what a stock Type R runs in the 1/4 if anyone knows
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One of many threads: http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=54974
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Get the navi. The damn thing is fascinating. And I use mine once a week at least. Today, I went somewhere I have never been, via the Illinois Tollway, and if I wanted to use it to get back home I would have to use an automated (only) toll booth to get off, and I was out of change. And all I had on me was a $100 bill. With the navi, you get a view of the roads about a mile each way, depending on the scale you use. 1/2" on the screen can represent 1/20th of a mile, or 500 miles. And lots of choices inbetween. So I just navigated my way home by dead reaconing.
If you ask the navi to find you a restaurant (and the navi does NOT consider Club Mickey's, wendys or BK to be restaurants), it will ask you what kind you want. All types? American? Chinese? French? Italian? Thai? Japanese? Vegetarian? You get the idea. Whatever you choose, it will point the direction and distance to the nearest one, then the next nearest, etc.
The navi is VERY easy to use, unlike some other systems like BMW, which I hear isn't so great.
Hook up with a navi owner in your area, and it doesn't have to be a CL, any Acura navi will do and get a demo.
I sold my first 2003 non navi CLS to get a navi after only 11,000 miles, and I never regret the choice. And if you don't like the route the navi picks, just go ahead and start out on it. Blow off the instruction you don't like and keep going and wait about 15 seconds. It will recalculate another route for you.
The navi is like heated seats. Once you have them, never again a car without them.
And don't forget, when you get the navi, you get free OnStar for one year, and you get a built in car phone, free. I use mine all the time. Impresses the crap out of people.
Remember: DEMO!
Some people here have taken their non navi CL and converted it to a navi at a later date. Trust me, you DON'T want to do that!
If you ask the navi to find you a restaurant (and the navi does NOT consider Club Mickey's, wendys or BK to be restaurants), it will ask you what kind you want. All types? American? Chinese? French? Italian? Thai? Japanese? Vegetarian? You get the idea. Whatever you choose, it will point the direction and distance to the nearest one, then the next nearest, etc.
The navi is VERY easy to use, unlike some other systems like BMW, which I hear isn't so great.
Hook up with a navi owner in your area, and it doesn't have to be a CL, any Acura navi will do and get a demo.
I sold my first 2003 non navi CLS to get a navi after only 11,000 miles, and I never regret the choice. And if you don't like the route the navi picks, just go ahead and start out on it. Blow off the instruction you don't like and keep going and wait about 15 seconds. It will recalculate another route for you.
The navi is like heated seats. Once you have them, never again a car without them.
And don't forget, when you get the navi, you get free OnStar for one year, and you get a built in car phone, free. I use mine all the time. Impresses the crap out of people.
Remember: DEMO!
Some people here have taken their non navi CL and converted it to a navi at a later date. Trust me, you DON'T want to do that!
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Originally Posted by dfreder370
Get the navi. The damn thing is fascinating. And I use mine once a week at least. Today, I went somewhere I have never been, via the Illinois Tollway, and if I wanted to use it to get back home I would have to use an automated (only) toll booth to get off, and I was out of change. And all I had on me was a $100 bill. With the navi, you get a view of the roads about a mile each way, depending on the scale you use. 1/2" on the screen can represent 1/20th of a mile, or 500 miles. And lots of choices inbetween. So I just navigated my way home by dead reaconing.
If you ask the navi to find you a restaurant (and the navi does NOT consider Club Mickey's, wendys or BK to be restaurants), it will ask you what kind you want. All types? American? Chinese? French? Italian? Thai? Japanese? Vegetarian? You get the idea. Whatever you choose, it will point the direction and distance to the nearest one, then the next nearest, etc.
The navi is VERY easy to use, unlike some other systems like BMW, which I hear isn't so great.
Hook up with a navi owner in your area, and it doesn't have to be a CL, any Acura navi will do and get a demo.
I sold my first 2003 non navi CLS to get a navi after only 11,000 miles, and I never regret the choice. And if you don't like the route the navi picks, just go ahead and start out on it. Blow off the instruction you don't like and keep going and wait about 15 seconds. It will recalculate another route for you.
The navi is like heated seats. Once you have them, never again a car without them.
And don't forget, when you get the navi, you get free OnStar for one year, and you get a built in car phone, free. I use mine all the time. Impresses the crap out of people.
Remember: DEMO!
Some people here have taken their non navi CL and converted it to a navi at a later date. Trust me, you DON'T want to do that!
If you ask the navi to find you a restaurant (and the navi does NOT consider Club Mickey's, wendys or BK to be restaurants), it will ask you what kind you want. All types? American? Chinese? French? Italian? Thai? Japanese? Vegetarian? You get the idea. Whatever you choose, it will point the direction and distance to the nearest one, then the next nearest, etc.
The navi is VERY easy to use, unlike some other systems like BMW, which I hear isn't so great.
Hook up with a navi owner in your area, and it doesn't have to be a CL, any Acura navi will do and get a demo.
I sold my first 2003 non navi CLS to get a navi after only 11,000 miles, and I never regret the choice. And if you don't like the route the navi picks, just go ahead and start out on it. Blow off the instruction you don't like and keep going and wait about 15 seconds. It will recalculate another route for you.
The navi is like heated seats. Once you have them, never again a car without them.
And don't forget, when you get the navi, you get free OnStar for one year, and you get a built in car phone, free. I use mine all the time. Impresses the crap out of people.
Remember: DEMO!
Some people here have taken their non navi CL and converted it to a navi at a later date. Trust me, you DON'T want to do that!
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