Trying to choose between AEM and ICEBOX

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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 12:41 PM
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Hmm. so what. If you can't handle going under the car to get the CAI filter out, you have no business ever opening the hood of a car. Who the fvck really can't clean the filter on either intake system.
It's just more convienent that's all. FYI, I probably spend more time under the hood and under car then you ever have.
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 12:44 PM
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I can take footage of my car at WOT with the Icebox if you want to hear how it sounds all I need is someone to host. Ill do it from 0-60 and from rolling start. I assure you it will sound pleasing and makes the car sound like a sport luxury car instead of a rice-a-roni car
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 12:56 PM
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Get the AEM. You'll love the sound it produces.

you'll love how it looks under your hood. (doesn't matter to me, but to some people it does)

Most likely the exact same gains.


It isn't that hard to clean the filter either. Just do it when the car is up on the lift at your local dealership. The guys at mine are cool, and don't give a damn if I'm back there.
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by moomaster_99
It's just more convienent that's all.
It is more convenient but its not hard at all....hell you don't really need to undo the whole pipe. I just undo the bracket on the filter itself and pull just the filter out from under the car


FYI, I probably spend more time under the hood and under car then you ever have.

Being the gas station attendant that fills the washer fluid doesn't count
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 01:52 PM
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Everyone is saying that with the AEM you can just get the filter from under the car, but from my experience with the car and where the AEM filter goes, that would require pulling off the bumper, which takes no time, but it's a pain in the a$$....

So can you get to the AEM filter from the top to clean it?

I think you both are gas station attendents
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by De03CLS
Everyone is saying that with the AEM you can just get the filter from under the car, but from my experience with the car and where the AEM filter goes, that would require pulling off the bumper, which takes no time, but it's a pain in the a$$....
There’s no need to EVER pull the bumper when installing or cleaning a CAI.
It pulls right out the bottom.

I really don’t understand what the big deal is about cleaning.
You only have to do it like once or twice a year depending on how many miles you drive.

Shawn S
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 02:03 PM
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Maybe a VISUAL AID will help..........

This is the Xephyr, but the AEM comes out the same way.
Notice the piece of the lower splash guard hanging down and the bumper that is STILL ATTACHED to the car.

Shawn S


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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 02:08 PM
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Exactly Shawn...all I do is pull that little flap that covers the filter and then I unscrew that bracket around the neck of the filter...simple
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 02:44 PM
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I don't have kneel to get at the CT at all....oops, I guess you're used to kneeling tho Mark..
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by De03CLS


I think you both are gas station attendents
You want regular in that car???
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 02:52 PM
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Whats this deal with the AEM sounding ricey? Maybe on a Civic 4-banger, but not on our sweet 3.2 liter!

http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/show...ghlight=awesome

for the video of the AEM ROAR!
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by moomaster_99
You want regular in that car???

BA HA HA HA HA HA HA, good one, no ping for me thank you...

I totally forgot about that flap...that would make it much easier...I took out my resonator with the bumper off when I was clearing the lights, figured I'd just do it then to prepare for an intake install...

Word from Dean is that the icebox is not going to be on backorder anymore after this week, thank god, ordered mine on 3/11...should be coming in next week!

oh and AGENTDSS

I watched your video last night when I got home, great vid, showed it to my friends and we got a big kick out of it...were you holding the camera WHILE you were driving! Livin' on the edge man!
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 03:14 PM
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Shawn the Xepher is pointing downward while the AEM points towards the front hitting the bumper....so in order to get the filter out you need to loosen the whole intake if you don't have the by/pass and if you do you have to loosen the bottom screw and the by-pass. It is still not difficult but not as easy as an above the car filter charge
Shit I don't have a 2 ton jack and in order to make my job easier I had to drive up on a curb and do the removing there. Not difficult but more of a pain in the ass while the Icebox is 3 screws to take the cover off and one for the clamp holding the filter and thats it.
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by AgentDSS
Whats this deal with the AEM sounding ricey? Maybe on a Civic 4-banger, but not on our sweet 3.2 liter!

http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/show...ghlight=awesome

for the video of the AEM ROAR!
Ill make a video of my car doing 0-100 mph so you can hear the difference don't worry it only takes about 14 seconds.
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 03:17 PM
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Love to hear it lou, post it man!
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 03:19 PM
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If you guys were into it for the sound...you would hear mine and chuck your AEM right now...
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by De03CLS

oh and AGENTDSS

I watched your video last night when I got home, great vid, showed it to my friends and we got a big kick out of it...were you holding the camera WHILE you were driving! Livin' on the edge man!
Yep, my lazy ass friends were busy workin instead of helping me!
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 07:03 PM
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Originally posted by moomaster_99
It's just more convienent that's all. FYI, I probably spend more time under the hood and under car then you ever have.
So how much does Jiffy Lube pay anyway???

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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 07:08 PM
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Fawk I went out to do the video but it is still raining and I don't want to be doing 0-100 mph with a camera in one hand cause you might be seeing something more than expected
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 07:25 PM
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Originally posted by lou
Shawn the Xepher is pointing downward while the AEM points towards the front hitting the bumper....so in order to get the filter out you need to loosen the whole intake.......

Shit I don't have a 2 ton jack and in order to make my job easier I had to drive up on a curb and do the removing there.
Well, you make a good argument about the AEM differences, but I still think it’s not too bad a job if you only have to do it once a year.

And don’t say you can’t afford a FLOOR JACK.
This one is only 29 bucks at SEARS and it comes with a FREE set of jack stands.

Shawn S

PS…. Mine is 3 ½ TONS, not 2 TON


Craftsman 2-1/4 ton Floor Jack with 2-1/4 ton Jack Stands
$29.99
Regular: $49.99
You Save: $20.00
Sale Ends 03/22/03

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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 07:30 PM
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I think it just depends on the look you want and your other mods. I went with the Icebox because everything else on my car is Comptech. I did this to stay consistent. The icebox is no louder at idle than stock but there is a difference in the upper RPM range, and yes, VTEC is a bit louder/deeper with the icebox.
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by Shawn S
Well, you make a good argument about the AEM differences, but I still think it’s not too bad a job if you only have to do it once a year.

And don’t say you can’t afford a FLOOR JACK.
This one is only 29 bucks at SEARS and it comes with a FREE set of jack stands.

Shawn S

PS…. Mine is 3 ½ TONS, not 2 TON


Craftsman 2-1/4 ton Floor Jack with 2-1/4 ton Jack Stands
$29.99
Regular: $49.99
You Save: $20.00
Sale Ends 03/22/03


what $29 what do you think Im made of money....I can't afford that.

Hey maybe AEM should offer it with there intake cause you know they're gonna need it. I think the shipping cost might be more though.
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 10:13 PM
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Is that deal work in the stores? If so, I'm gonna grab it tomorrow!
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Old Mar 21, 2003 | 08:46 AM
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Can we get a Group Buy on Jacks and Stands?? :P
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Old Mar 21, 2003 | 12:40 PM
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Originally posted by devnull
So how much does Jiffy Lube pay anyway???

:pfawk:
They don't pay too bad...clock over 60k a year being an oil change guy.
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Old Mar 21, 2003 | 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by moomaster_99
They don't pay too bad...clock over 60k a year being an oil change guy.
Yeah but thats only because you are "changing the oil" of the guy who owns the place :fag: :ghey:
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Old Mar 21, 2003 | 03:30 PM
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Originally posted by NOLACLS
Yeah but thats only because you are "changing the oil" of the guy who owns the place :fag: :ghey:
You weren't complaining when I lubed you up with my dipstick...:P
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Old Mar 21, 2003 | 03:53 PM
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Originally posted by moomaster_99
You weren't complaining when I lubed you up with my dipstick...:P
I had no idea that even happened but I guess you get that a lot dont ya little man

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Old Mar 21, 2003 | 04:14 PM
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Let's keep our hands on our shifters, boys!!!
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Old Mar 21, 2003 | 05:19 PM
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Hey Shawn, I picked up that $29 jack set today..pretty nice.

That damn pin you had to punch into each jackstand was a pain in the ass though!

I seem to get similar heights with this jack compared to my stock one That normal, right?
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Old Mar 21, 2003 | 07:09 PM
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Just got back from Sears.

Thanks Shawn.
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Old Mar 21, 2003 | 10:55 PM
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Hey Shawn, I picked up that $29 jack set today..pretty nice.
Just got back from Sears. Thanks Shawn.
DAMN, I need to get some commissions from SEARS.
And Valentine One, and ZAINO.

Did I mention ZAINO ???

Shawn S
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 07:06 AM
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Originally posted by moomaster_99
They don't pay too bad...clock over 60k a year being an oil change guy.
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 07:18 AM
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I agree with Shawn S. I just cleaned my filter over the weekend and just like he said, undo a couple of fasteners and the filter is right there. Easy job to do.

And the VTEC scream is unmatched. Not to mention the "shutdown" sound.
For those of us new to mods, what is the cleaning & maintenance differences between the IceBox and the oem filter?
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 09:41 AM
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For those of us new to mods, what is the cleaning & maintenance differences between the IceBox and the oem filter?
The OEM filter is disposable. According to Acura's service recommendations you should change it every 15K miles for extreme service and every 30K miles for normal service. A replacement will run you about $20 from AHMotor.com.

All aftermarket intakes utilize some sort of reusable filter (urethane foam or cotton) that should last the life of the car. You need to clean them every 10 - 50K miles by washing and re-treating with an oil spray. A recharging kit is pretty cheap - maybe @$15 - and will get you through a few cleanings.

See the K & N Filter website to learn more about re-usable air filters. This is probably the most popular manufacturer of aftermarket air filters. They use a cotton mesh as their filter medium. AEM uses a K&N (or K&N type) cone filter as do other manufacturers of the snorkel CAIs. Comptech uses a urethane foam material for their filters. People cite pros & cons of each material (essentially relating to ability to filter and increased air flow) and you'll have to decide if any of that matters.

You can also buy a OEM replacement filter from K&N (part 33-2178 for Type S) if you want to exchange your filter without changing your intake system. Aftermarket filters are higher flow then the OEM and supposedly allow the car to 'breath' a little better then stock. Some suggest (as does K&N) that gas mileage and HP are also marginally improved, but I doubt it. I bought one simple because it's a better product then stock and because it's reuseable.
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 09:53 AM
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Slimey:

Thanks for a GREAT explanation. I appreciate the detail. I am seriously considering an Icebox for my car and maybe a OEM replacement for my wife's.

FE
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