Trying to choose between AEM and ICEBOX
03-20-2003, 12:41 PM
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Originally posted by devnull
Hmm. so what. If you can't handle going under the car to get the CAI filter out, you have no business ever opening the hood of a car. Who the fvck really can't clean the filter on either intake system.
Hmm. so what. If you can't handle going under the car to get the CAI filter out, you have no business ever opening the hood of a car. Who the fvck really can't clean the filter on either intake system.
03-20-2003, 12:44 PM
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I can take footage of my car at WOT with the Icebox if you want to hear how it sounds all I need is someone to host. Ill do it from 0-60 and from rolling start. I assure you it will sound pleasing and makes the car sound like a sport luxury car instead of a rice-a-roni car
03-20-2003, 12:56 PM
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Get the AEM. You'll love the sound it produces.
you'll love how it looks under your hood. (doesn't matter to me, but to some people it does)
Most likely the exact same gains.
It isn't that hard to clean the filter either. Just do it when the car is up on the lift at your local dealership. The guys at mine are cool, and don't give a damn if I'm back there.
Get the AEM. You'll love the sound it produces.
you'll love how it looks under your hood. (doesn't matter to me, but to some people it does)
Most likely the exact same gains.
It isn't that hard to clean the filter either. Just do it when the car is up on the lift at your local dealership. The guys at mine are cool, and don't give a damn if I'm back there.
03-20-2003, 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by moomaster_99
It's just more convienent that's all.
It's just more convienent that's all.
FYI, I probably spend more time under the hood and under car then you ever have.
Being the gas station attendant that fills the washer fluid doesn't count
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03-20-2003, 01:52 PM
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Everyone is saying that with the AEM you can just get the filter from under the car, but from my experience with the car and where the AEM filter goes, that would require pulling off the bumper, which takes no time, but it's a pain in the a$$....
So can you get to the AEM filter from the top to clean it?
I think you both are gas station attendents
So can you get to the AEM filter from the top to clean it?
I think you both are gas station attendents
03-20-2003, 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by De03CLS
Everyone is saying that with the AEM you can just get the filter from under the car, but from my experience with the car and where the AEM filter goes, that would require pulling off the bumper, which takes no time, but it's a pain in the a$$....
Everyone is saying that with the AEM you can just get the filter from under the car, but from my experience with the car and where the AEM filter goes, that would require pulling off the bumper, which takes no time, but it's a pain in the a$$....
It pulls right out the bottom.
I really don’t understand what the big deal is about cleaning.
You only have to do it like once or twice a year depending on how many miles you drive.
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03-20-2003, 02:03 PM
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Maybe a VISUAL AID will help..........
This is the Xephyr, but the AEM comes out the same way.
Notice the piece of the lower splash guard hanging down and the bumper that is STILL ATTACHED to the car.
Shawn S
This is the Xephyr, but the AEM comes out the same way.
Notice the piece of the lower splash guard hanging down and the bumper that is STILL ATTACHED to the car.
Shawn S
03-20-2003, 02:52 PM
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Whats this deal with the AEM sounding ricey? Maybe on a Civic 4-banger, but not on our sweet 3.2 liter!
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/show...ghlight=awesome
for the video of the AEM ROAR!
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/show...ghlight=awesome
for the video of the AEM ROAR!
03-20-2003, 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by moomaster_99
You want regular in that car???
You want regular in that car???
BA HA HA HA HA HA HA, good one, no ping for me thank you...
I totally forgot about that flap...that would make it much easier...I took out my resonator with the bumper off when I was clearing the lights, figured I'd just do it then to prepare for an intake install...
Word from Dean is that the icebox is not going to be on backorder anymore after this week, thank god, ordered mine on 3/11...should be coming in next week!
oh and AGENTDSS
I watched your video last night when I got home, great vid, showed it to my friends and we got a big kick out of it...were you holding the camera WHILE you were driving! Livin' on the edge man!
03-20-2003, 03:14 PM
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Shawn the Xepher is pointing downward while the AEM points towards the front hitting the bumper....so in order to get the filter out you need to loosen the whole intake if you don't have the by/pass and if you do you have to loosen the bottom screw and the by-pass. It is still not difficult but not as easy as an above the car filter charge
Shit I don't have a 2 ton jack and in order to make my job easier I had to drive up on a curb and do the removing there. Not difficult but more of a pain in the ass while the Icebox is 3 screws to take the cover off and one for the clamp holding the filter and thats it.
Shit I don't have a 2 ton jack and in order to make my job easier I had to drive up on a curb and do the removing there. Not difficult but more of a pain in the ass while the Icebox is 3 screws to take the cover off and one for the clamp holding the filter and thats it.
03-20-2003, 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by AgentDSS
Whats this deal with the AEM sounding ricey? Maybe on a Civic 4-banger, but not on our sweet 3.2 liter!
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/show...ghlight=awesome
for the video of the AEM ROAR!
Whats this deal with the AEM sounding ricey? Maybe on a Civic 4-banger, but not on our sweet 3.2 liter!
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/show...ghlight=awesome
for the video of the AEM ROAR!
03-20-2003, 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by De03CLS
oh and AGENTDSS
I watched your video last night when I got home, great vid, showed it to my friends and we got a big kick out of it...were you holding the camera WHILE you were driving! Livin' on the edge man!
oh and AGENTDSS
I watched your video last night when I got home, great vid, showed it to my friends and we got a big kick out of it...were you holding the camera WHILE you were driving! Livin' on the edge man!
03-20-2003, 07:03 PM
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Originally posted by moomaster_99
It's just more convienent that's all. FYI, I probably spend more time under the hood and under car then you ever have.
It's just more convienent that's all. FYI, I probably spend more time under the hood and under car then you ever have.
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03-20-2003, 07:08 PM
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Fawk I went out to do the video but it is still raining and I don't want to be doing 0-100 mph with a camera in one hand cause you might be seeing something more than expected
03-20-2003, 07:25 PM
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Originally posted by lou
Shawn the Xepher is pointing downward while the AEM points towards the front hitting the bumper....so in order to get the filter out you need to loosen the whole intake.......
Shit I don't have a 2 ton jack and in order to make my job easier I had to drive up on a curb and do the removing there.
Shawn the Xepher is pointing downward while the AEM points towards the front hitting the bumper....so in order to get the filter out you need to loosen the whole intake.......
Shit I don't have a 2 ton jack and in order to make my job easier I had to drive up on a curb and do the removing there.
And don’t say you can’t afford a FLOOR JACK.
This one is only 29 bucks at SEARS and it comes with a FREE set of jack stands.
Shawn S
PS…. Mine is 3 ½ TONS, not 2 TON
Craftsman 2-1/4 ton Floor Jack with 2-1/4 ton Jack Stands
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03-20-2003, 07:30 PM
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I think it just depends on the look you want and your other mods. I went with the Icebox because everything else on my car is Comptech. I did this to stay consistent. The icebox is no louder at idle than stock but there is a difference in the upper RPM range, and yes, VTEC is a bit louder/deeper with the icebox.
03-20-2003, 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by Shawn S
Well, you make a good argument about the AEM differences, but I still think it’s not too bad a job if you only have to do it once a year.
And don’t say you can’t afford a FLOOR JACK.
This one is only 29 bucks at SEARS and it comes with a FREE set of jack stands.
Shawn S
PS…. Mine is 3 ½ TONS, not 2 TON
Craftsman 2-1/4 ton Floor Jack with 2-1/4 ton Jack Stands
$29.99
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Well, you make a good argument about the AEM differences, but I still think it’s not too bad a job if you only have to do it once a year.
And don’t say you can’t afford a FLOOR JACK.
This one is only 29 bucks at SEARS and it comes with a FREE set of jack stands.
Shawn S
PS…. Mine is 3 ½ TONS, not 2 TON
Craftsman 2-1/4 ton Floor Jack with 2-1/4 ton Jack Stands
$29.99
Regular: $49.99
You Save: $20.00
Sale Ends 03/22/03
what $29 what do you think Im made of money....I can't afford that.
Hey maybe AEM should offer it with there intake cause you know they're gonna need it. I think the shipping cost might be more though.
03-21-2003, 12:40 PM
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Originally posted by devnull
So how much does Jiffy Lube pay anyway???
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So how much does Jiffy Lube pay anyway???
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03-21-2003, 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by moomaster_99
They don't pay too bad...clock over 60k a year being an oil change guy.
They don't pay too bad...clock over 60k a year being an oil change guy.
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03-21-2003, 03:30 PM
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Originally posted by NOLACLS
Yeah but thats only because you are "changing the oil" of the guy who owns the place :fag: :ghey:
Yeah but thats only because you are "changing the oil" of the guy who owns the place :fag:
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03-21-2003, 03:53 PM
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Originally posted by moomaster_99
You weren't complaining when I lubed you up with my dipstick...:P
You weren't complaining when I lubed you up with my dipstick...:P
but I guess you get that a lot dont ya little man
03-21-2003, 05:19 PM
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Hey Shawn, I picked up that $29 jack set today..pretty nice.
That damn pin you had to punch into each jackstand was a pain in the ass though!
I seem to get similar heights with this jack compared to my stock one
That normal, right?
That damn pin you had to punch into each jackstand was a pain in the ass though!
I seem to get similar heights with this jack compared to my stock one
That normal, right?
03-21-2003, 10:55 PM
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Hey Shawn, I picked up that $29 jack set today..pretty nice.
Just got back from Sears. Thanks Shawn.
And Valentine One, and ZAINO.
Did I mention ZAINO
???Shawn S
03-22-2003, 07:18 AM
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Originally posted by cmark
I agree with Shawn S. I just cleaned my filter over the weekend and just like he said, undo a couple of fasteners and the filter is right there. Easy job to do.
And the VTEC scream is unmatched. Not to mention the "shutdown" sound.
I agree with Shawn S. I just cleaned my filter over the weekend and just like he said, undo a couple of fasteners and the filter is right there. Easy job to do.
And the VTEC scream is unmatched. Not to mention the "shutdown" sound.
03-22-2003, 09:41 AM
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Originally posted by FastEddie
For those of us new to mods, what is the cleaning & maintenance differences between the IceBox and the oem filter?
For those of us new to mods, what is the cleaning & maintenance differences between the IceBox and the oem filter?
All aftermarket intakes utilize some sort of reusable filter (urethane foam or cotton) that should last the life of the car. You need to clean them every 10 - 50K miles by washing and re-treating with an oil spray. A recharging kit is pretty cheap - maybe @$15 - and will get you through a few cleanings.
See the K & N Filter website to learn more about re-usable air filters. This is probably the most popular manufacturer of aftermarket air filters. They use a cotton mesh as their filter medium. AEM uses a K&N (or K&N type) cone filter as do other manufacturers of the snorkel CAIs. Comptech uses a urethane foam material for their filters. People cite pros & cons of each material (essentially relating to ability to filter and increased air flow) and you'll have to decide if any of that matters.
You can also buy a OEM replacement filter from K&N (part 33-2178 for Type S) if you want to exchange your filter without changing your intake system. Aftermarket filters are higher flow then the OEM and supposedly allow the car to 'breath' a little better then stock. Some suggest (as does K&N) that gas mileage and HP are also marginally improved, but I doubt it. I bought one simple because it's a better product then stock and because it's reuseable.
03-22-2003, 09:53 AM
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Slimey:
Thanks for a GREAT explanation. I appreciate the detail. I am seriously considering an Icebox for my car and maybe a OEM replacement for my wife's.
FE
Thanks for a GREAT explanation. I appreciate the detail. I am seriously considering an Icebox for my car and maybe a OEM replacement for my wife's.
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