A mechanic told me, that the CLS has a 70% chance of resulting in a failed transmission.......But if this were true, wouldnt the TLS also have the same since they share the same tranny?? Can this be possible? if so, thats kinda scary!

 

yup...TL's and CL's share the same tranny

 

That is false.

It is only a 50% chance.

Either it will or it won't. 50, 50.

 

Yes, they would have a very similar failure rates. They use the same drivetrain along with the TL pulling slightly more weight.

 

there is 10k failures out of 400,000 or 2.5% from where did you get the 70%?

 

Hahahhaha... If you flip a penny 99 times and it lands on heads each time, what are the chances of it landing on tails the next flip?

 

a mechanic friend of mine says he had 4 customers w/ CLS and their trannys failed....all four sued acura and acura reimbursed the full amount of the vehicles back to the owners without accounting for depreciation....just a full refund

 

50/50 Tom.

 

u guys are ridicolous, its not 70% 50% or 20% its gotta be in single digits.

 

it not that high but some people have more than one failure

 

rates are ran on independant studies...in this mechanics case...he had a high rate of cls come in with the problem.....but overall with everyone out there, this number is small of course.

he was just basising it off his experience. nothing more

 

It's 50/50. If you flip a fair penny 99 times and it comes up 99 times in a row on heads, there's no guarantee it will come up heads on the 100th flip.

Assuming we have a fair penny meaning it's not rigged to favour one side or the other, if you think the odd are so great that it will be heads [again] on the 100th time, if you are so sure, let do it...you give me 100 to 1 odds, let's bet $10 and I'll take tails. If it lands heads, you get $10, if it lands tails I get $1000.

I think you know this. We're talking chances, not percentages. No fair penny anywhere can do better than 50/50 heads or tails on any one "fair" flip; each event is independent of the last and it can land either heads or tails...one outcome amongst two possibilities...50% heads, 50% tails.

Hehe, Tom you had to throw the random penny analogy in. Which doesn't apply to the Acuras since it's not a independent random event. I was sorta kidding about the 50/50 part on the Acura, it's not a 50% share but like the penny, tomorrow your tranny will fail...or it won't. The OP is really asking about what percentage of Acuras end up with failed trannys, not your chances of chosing an Acura whose tranny will fail. None of us know what you real chances are because we don't have all the facts...regardless. If Sacramento Acura has 20 CLs on the lot and sold 19 of them last week and this week all the new owners called back to complain of failed trannies....whoever buys that 20th CL this week...chances are their tranny will fail, say 95%. But that's not random since it appears that all the cars came from the same [manufacturing] lot. But if we knew Sacramento Acura traded Reno Acura for the 20th two months ago...different chances.

The percentage of failed trannies is in the single digits from what I hear. Even if you count the total number of [repeated] failures vs the total number of cars manufactured...still single digits.

 

kensteele,

Yes, I know that you know that. And I know that you know that I knew that.

 

I know that you believe you understand what you think I said but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.

 

Sounds like there is something wrong with your mechanics sample. Probably best he didn't become a statistician.

 

When Elvis died in 1977, there were only 37 Elvis impersonators. Today there are more than 48,000 in the world, and if this continues, by the year 2010 one out of three people in the world will be Elvis impersonators.

 

....you either got a good tranny or a bad one...from what I've read depending on the build date. % can't be that high

 

I don't think it's anything. I have an early one and transmissions around mine have failed but mine has not. I think it's strictly random and obviously Acura does not believe it is as serious as we do. But...... they did extend the warranty on the trans for 100,000 miles.

 

I've been alive for 1 Billion seconds.

How old am I?

 

This statement is TRUE. I guarantee your tranny will fail. The question is, WHEN? 50k miles or 500k miles?? :p

 

If you do the math - most people would say your 31 (rounded down) - BUT since we are not 1 yrs old when we are born - I believe that makes you 30 and almost 31 - right?

 

31.7 years old...

 

31 years, 251 days, 13 hours, 34 minutes, and 26 seconds! = 31.7 correct - But, you are 0 when your born so would that make a difference, who's right here?

 

:head explodes:

 

if u wanna go that route, yer still wrong...according to yer logic, the answer is 100%...the question is when

the guy just got 70% out of thin air...he doesn't know...noone outside of Honda R&D knows...it's their lil secret

 

I could be wrong but if you take into account the decimal place you would be accounting for the portion of the first year. We determined that 1 billion seconds is 31.7 years based on there being 31,536,000 seconds in a year.

We are about 45% of the way through this year, or in the year 2003.45. Subtract 31.7 from 2003.45 and the result is 1971.75 or roughly a birth date of September of 1971 which would put him at 31 approaching 32.

But as I said, I could be wrong.

 

They way I see it we are already accounting for the first year. To keep it simple, lets say someone is 1 million seconds old. That would put them at 0.03 years old or about 3.5 months. Just my take on it though.

 

Damn, I just cheated and looked up the answer - I now think you are right

 

Yes it is true, but every mechanical part fails over a peroid of time no matter who the manufacturer is.

 

Think about that for a second (no pun intended)..... If there's anything that can give you an idea about the difference between 1 million and 1 billion, this is it:

A person alive for 1 million seconds is 3.5 months old.

A person alive for 1 billion seconds is 32 years old.

How many BILLIONS is Bill Gates worth?

BTW, I'm 32 I was rounding.....

 

ACK...you didn't go and CALCULATE that yourself didja?