trans ate itself in 30000 kilometers
10-11-2010, 07:23 PM
#42
Suzuka Master
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tl-s tranny wont work you have to get the base tl tranny. NVA installed it in a day and a half and i havent looked back since. no it didnt have to be rebuilt. it had like 42k on when i bought it. the tranny now has around 62k. i paid $1100 for the tranny.
https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-cl-problems-fixes-70/another-solution-my-auto-cl-guys-758220/
your tranny was REBUILT it SHOULD have lastest longer than my tranny that has 62k on it.
https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-cl-problems-fixes-70/another-solution-my-auto-cl-guys-758220/
your tranny was REBUILT it SHOULD have lastest longer than my tranny that has 62k on it.
Last edited by p.diddy; 10-11-2010 at 07:26 PM.
10-11-2010, 08:20 PM
#44
Suzuka Master
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all the money your putting into this "bulletproof" stuff you'd actually get more use out of the money if you wiped your ass with it and flushed it down the toilet.(that wasnt a shot at you either just making a point). dont waste your money and waste your time calling those people.
Last edited by p.diddy; 10-11-2010 at 08:31 PM.
10-11-2010, 09:10 PM
#46
Suzuka Master
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the blowers been off for a while. ill put it back on next year. but i do rip on it from time to time. its a stock 07 tl tranny nva bought from a junk yard. if you read my thread i posted theres a bunch of other members did the oddy and accord tranny.
10-12-2010, 08:36 AM
#50
3.5 psi
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i just read a bit of Diddy's thread on the swap, and NVA stated the 04-06 oddy trans would be preferable. There's one for $648.
http://www.car-part.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi
http://www.car-part.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi
Ok guys......
Preffered would be a 04-06 oddy trans, since it is a mom mobile there is much less chance it has been beaten on and they are plentiful in the yards.
It is not completely a direct drop in there are some parts (trans range switch,trans filter housing) that need to be transferred and a couple holes that are cast into the housing need to be tapped, the bosses are there they just need to be drilled and tapped.
Triptronic is all a matter of ECU, the physical trans has nothing to do with it.
Preffered would be a 04-06 oddy trans, since it is a mom mobile there is much less chance it has been beaten on and they are plentiful in the yards.
It is not completely a direct drop in there are some parts (trans range switch,trans filter housing) that need to be transferred and a couple holes that are cast into the housing need to be tapped, the bosses are there they just need to be drilled and tapped.
Triptronic is all a matter of ECU, the physical trans has nothing to do with it.
10-12-2010, 01:34 PM
#51
Whats up with RDX owners?
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Breakstanding at the line puts stress on the torque converter, not the tranny. I dont know what the stock tq converters stall speed is (the engine speed it "catches").
If you do a brake stand and you are giving it gas to the point where the RPMs no longer rise, thats the stall speed. And your not really supposed to bring it to that speed during a brake stand because that is extra stress on the tq converter. Do it a few hundred rpms less.
BTW, 04-06 Ody/TL tranny. IIRC the 07 TL transmissions are a crap shoot, some will bolt up while others have a different bell housing. Stick to the 04-06s.
If you do a brake stand and you are giving it gas to the point where the RPMs no longer rise, thats the stall speed. And your not really supposed to bring it to that speed during a brake stand because that is extra stress on the tq converter. Do it a few hundred rpms less.
BTW, 04-06 Ody/TL tranny. IIRC the 07 TL transmissions are a crap shoot, some will bolt up while others have a different bell housing. Stick to the 04-06s.
10-12-2010, 02:20 PM
#52
Suzuka Master
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Breakstanding at the line puts stress on the torque converter, not the tranny. I dont know what the stock tq converters stall speed is (the engine speed it "catches").
If you do a brake stand and you are giving it gas to the point where the RPMs no longer rise, thats the stall speed. And your not really supposed to bring it to that speed during a brake stand because that is extra stress on the tq converter. Do it a few hundred rpms less.
BTW, 04-06 Ody/TL tranny. IIRC the 07 TL transmissions are a crap shoot, some will bolt up while others have a different bell housing. Stick to the 04-06s.
If you do a brake stand and you are giving it gas to the point where the RPMs no longer rise, thats the stall speed. And your not really supposed to bring it to that speed during a brake stand because that is extra stress on the tq converter. Do it a few hundred rpms less.
BTW, 04-06 Ody/TL tranny. IIRC the 07 TL transmissions are a crap shoot, some will bolt up while others have a different bell housing. Stick to the 04-06s.
yea i got lucky. NVA picked the right one. i wanted the newest tranny possible so i was gunning hard for an '07 tranny.
10-12-2010, 02:34 PM
#53
you sure it's not the 07 3.5 auto trans that doesn't bolt up you mean... vs the 3.2L base 07 TL
my guy said he's never seen an issue with the 07 trans and found one for 1600 so I would like to go that route... but if it's potentially a problem then screw it I will listen to you guys.
found an 04 TL trans with 47000MILES, tq converter and sensors for 1050$
SAY the word and I will buy it guys...
P.S thanks for whipping me in shape!
my guy said he's never seen an issue with the 07 trans and found one for 1600 so I would like to go that route... but if it's potentially a problem then screw it I will listen to you guys.
found an 04 TL trans with 47000MILES, tq converter and sensors for 1050$
SAY the word and I will buy it guys...
P.S thanks for whipping me in shape!
10-12-2010, 02:42 PM
#54
Suzuka Master
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if you go the TL route get the 04-06 tranny. the first half of the the 07 TL tranny bolt up but halfway through that year model acura redesigned the bell housing. so the second half of the 07s dont bolt up. i got lucky and picked a first half tranny. and its the base model TL tranny not the type-s.
10-12-2010, 02:43 PM
#55
10-12-2010, 02:45 PM
#56
Suzuka Master
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trust me over the years of being on az i dont know how manys times ive seen someone come on here claiming they knew how to fix the cl tranny problem. the only solution is to get a tranny from a different model car.
10-12-2010, 05:08 PM
#58
thanks gnuts but i wanna go with the tl trans. guy is really nice and it's out of a barely wrecked tl with pretty darn low mileage. (ran into a snowbank). located in woodbridge.
lol well i sourced an 04 47K miles tl base auto trans with converter for 1050 is the arranged price with all sensors etc.
hopefully i can get some money for my old trans. and switches??
which tq converter should I used? the one from this used trans? or my transtar tq converter with 30000Kilometers?
once again thank you for all your wisdom people. I hope this is it. I hope it lasts till the motor caves at 300000kms
at least i can get 200 for one of the tq converters assuming the trans is worth ZERO..
lol well i sourced an 04 47K miles tl base auto trans with converter for 1050 is the arranged price with all sensors etc.
hopefully i can get some money for my old trans. and switches??
which tq converter should I used? the one from this used trans? or my transtar tq converter with 30000Kilometers?
once again thank you for all your wisdom people. I hope this is it. I hope it lasts till the motor caves at 300000kms
at least i can get 200 for one of the tq converters assuming the trans is worth ZERO..
Last edited by CL-S progression 01; 10-12-2010 at 05:11 PM.
10-12-2010, 06:13 PM
#59
Suzuka Master
not every tranny shop will do odessy or 07 TL swap. Its not like you can walk in in trans. place and ask for 07 install. I think its time to dump this car and move on. when it costs more to fix your car than its worse its pretty stupid to spend money on it, especially when you know you are getting the same defective part.
10-12-2010, 06:38 PM
#60
Whats up with RDX owners?
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not every tranny shop will do odessy or 07 TL swap. Its not like you can walk in in trans. place and ask for 07 install. I think its time to dump this car and move on. when it costs more to fix your car than its worse its pretty stupid to spend money on it, especially when you know you are getting the same defective part.
10-12-2010, 06:56 PM
#61
Suzuka Master
While I usually agree, having a car that is paid off and planning to drive it until it absolutely, positively, will not run anymore, putting $1500 into a proper tranny swap is worth it in my opinion. If the only option was to rebuild the CL tranny for $2-3k, then absolutely, ditch the car. Because it will definitely happen again no matter how easy you drive on it.
10-13-2010, 03:48 PM
#65
10-13-2010, 05:24 PM
#66
ok i read your thread p.diddy and i need to swap a bunch of shit and tap holes..
my guy doesn't know where those are or how to do it.
so i think I am stuck with rebuilding.... using the new caseing you guys mentioned. along with new clutches and seals from level ten.
should I reuse my tq converter? or is that a no no.
fuck
my guy doesn't know where those are or how to do it.
so i think I am stuck with rebuilding.... using the new caseing you guys mentioned. along with new clutches and seals from level ten.
should I reuse my tq converter? or is that a no no.
fuck
10-13-2010, 05:33 PM
#67
10-13-2010, 05:33 PM
#68
Whats up with RDX owners?
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Just point to what holes need to be drilled and tapped, show him the thread, or find a new mechanic.
10-13-2010, 05:33 PM
#70
Whats up with RDX owners?
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10-13-2010, 06:19 PM
#72
I just don't want him telling me something doesn't work, or he cannot do it. there's just more things to go wrong than I would like. it's a catch 22.
p.diddy it says in your other thread that even the tl trans has issues too. so it's not a permenant fix like i thought
and has anyone done the level ten clutches and had the same thing happen?
going to reuse my tq converter so will not be too expensive thank god.
but what about the casing you guys were talking about.. an 03 is better?
p.diddy it says in your other thread that even the tl trans has issues too. so it's not a permenant fix like i thought
and has anyone done the level ten clutches and had the same thing happen?
going to reuse my tq converter so will not be too expensive thank god.
but what about the casing you guys were talking about.. an 03 is better?
10-13-2010, 07:39 PM
#76
Suzuka Master
latest 03 CL/TLs have some modifications from factory, which pretty much do nothing or slightly reduce chances of failure, the agreement here that its BS. In 2005 rebuilds got the latest updates to parts and cases, this made problem less frequent, but still fails more often than it should.
10-13-2010, 08:12 PM
#77
kkk so it's not worth buying for the price...
my belief is they give us garbage materials for the clutches and a shitty flowing design which just heats everything up more than the parts can handle..
so if i swap the parts that fail with high heat compatible ones then in theory it'll work.
I'd rather have the cl trans with the "bullet proof rebuildkit" than the tl- trans which is beter but not great. I'm looking for great. And I'm willing to roll the dice, if no one has experience with these.
my belief is they give us garbage materials for the clutches and a shitty flowing design which just heats everything up more than the parts can handle..
so if i swap the parts that fail with high heat compatible ones then in theory it'll work.
I'd rather have the cl trans with the "bullet proof rebuildkit" than the tl- trans which is beter but not great. I'm looking for great. And I'm willing to roll the dice, if no one has experience with these.
10-13-2010, 08:24 PM
#78
Suzuka Master
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kkk so it's not worth buying for the price...
my belief is they give us garbage materials for the clutches and a shitty flowing design which just heats everything up more than the parts can handle..
so if i swap the parts that fail with high heat compatible ones then in theory it'll work.
I'd rather have the cl trans with the "bullet proof rebuildkit" than the tl- trans which is beter but not great. I'm looking for great. And I'm willing to roll the dice, if no one has experience with these.
my belief is they give us garbage materials for the clutches and a shitty flowing design which just heats everything up more than the parts can handle..
so if i swap the parts that fail with high heat compatible ones then in theory it'll work.
I'd rather have the cl trans with the "bullet proof rebuildkit" than the tl- trans which is beter but not great. I'm looking for great. And I'm willing to roll the dice, if no one has experience with these.
