I went to the track yesterday with the CL-S for the first time, my car is bone stock it has 140k Km on it a replaced tranny and bald stock michelins (140k km on them) my best time was:

R/T .580
60' 2.418
330 6.606
1/8 9.982
MPH 72.90
1000 12.885
1/4 15.335
MPH 92.09

I tried gate shifting but my best run was this in SS. i tourque breaked at like 2200 spun through most of first. ( i am getting new rims and tires and ill run it again)

 

did u turn off VSA? on my stock CL-S i ran much quicker than that on my 1/4... but i had good tires, had a good launch and i turned off VSA. and i gate shifted

 

turning off VSA won't make a huge difference though.... he'll just spin out more and the tires, if the road is dry, will tend to stick a little quicker, but not a huge difference

 

You're kidding me, right?

 

for the 1/4 mile, it won't make a huge difference. I tested it out...

 

Damn your 60 sucks...what was the temp and humidity?

 

Damn over 86k miles on the stock tires.

They got to be like slicks now.

 

yea 86k miles is pretty damn crazy a 15.33 as your best run is pretty damn weak though

 

if he had bad tires, he'd spin out off the line much more hence VSA will play a larger role.

 

You must have bad tires for you to mention how your 1/4 mile is actually worse with VSA-OFF. I think that is the first time I've seen that in all the years I've been here. (This presumes that someone wasn't just spinning the tires uselessly or driving on "slick" surfaces.)


Sorry, but this particular topic has been covered a number of times. There are people who frequent the track and have tried VSA on & VSA off. The times were better with VSA off.

Even the 0..60 will be burned with VSA on. The ignition timing is rolled back and even with traction firmly established, the car is slowed down (due to ignition retard), and the yellow icon blinks on. (Hey, it does for me, and the tires are NOT spinning -- they have full traction on sticky/dry pavement.)

On some of my 0..60 runs, VSA-ON has added from 0.2- to 0.4-seconds vs. VSA-OFF.

Acura even offered up options to turn the VSA-OFF going uphill during winter time up slippery and icy driveways. They have alternately suggested the use of "2" position. (I haven’t tried it – so YMMV).

And, if you'd like to get a little extra info on traction controls, stability aids, etc, get the latest Motor Trend, and check out the graphs of the road course operation with stability systems engaged. The times were better with the systems off. (See August 2004 issue of Motor Trend. Auto TT 3.2, BMW Z4 3.0I, Nissan 350Z Roadster Enthusiast, & Porsche Boxster S were all tested with overall times & graphs for assist on and assist off.)

And, to be clear, I'm not telling people they will always be faster with the systems off.

 

I could see how a set of retreads or "special needs" tires could make this happen.

IMO, if the car isn't in water, glycol, ice rink, or other low-traction surface, the ignition retard alone will drop the times. The VSA is quite useful on wet surfaces and on paint strips.

 

wow those times are awful!

 

:captainobvious:

Why not just rub the rest of the tread down to the belts?

Toss on some glycol

Swap for some depleted uranium wheels and solid urethane tires

I'd consider myself if I drove around on bald tires.

What's next: "Here's the time I got at the track. BTW, I had all of the concrete mix I needed for my new patio in the trunk and had the spare on the front. Do you think that could have hurt?"

 

60' is killing your time, get some better rubber on and high 14's can be achieved with no prob

 

Man... don't slam the guy!! He tried... didn't he?

Looks like your mph is quite off as well, maybe the actuator isn't working or something else wrong?!?

 

Trying == great.

Driving on bald tires == not so great.

Come on, this is similar to the "how fast can my car go analogy." If someone wants to check this out on a private or deserted road with consenting adults in the car -- great. But, how many times have you seen a car that has lost control with bald or badly worn tires. I've seen a few, and I could understand the concern for a harsh critique if someone was just using some "worn out" slicks at the track.

However, using "bald stock michelins[sic]" is not exactly kosher. In fact, in most states you'll get your ass kicked in if a car-savvy policeman stops you for any number of spirited-driving violations and sees that your driving on "kill-a-kid" specials.

Please don't tell me you condone that *and* that you'd do the same. I have a hard time believing that.

 

gate shift, check your actuator, vsa off, a/c off, and roll into the throttle on your launch. My best advice would be to do what everybody else said and get some new tires asap. If your actuator is working you should hit 14's. Its tough though this time of the year with high temp and humidity.

 

His times were pretty close to what I originally got when I went to the track for the first time: 15.318 @91.18. Not the most impressive times but I'm glad both car and driver have come a long way.

Congratulations on your 1/4 attempt.

 

Props fir the attempt

 

Reminds me I need to replace my own tires!!

 

I could probably use one of those on my string grass trimmer??

 

That's exactly what I was thinking. A 2.4 60' isn't THAT bad, i've seen worse.

Your Times:

R/T .580
60' 2.418
330 6.606
1/8 9.982
MPH 72.90
1000 12.885
1/4 15.335
MPH 92.09


My Times (1st run ever, stock engine, new rubber, broken actuator):

R/T .957
60' 2.251
330' 6.401
1/8 9.761
MPH 73.65
1000' 12.668
1/4 15.131
MPH 92.05


Our trap speeds are the same and I had a broken actuator. These runs were at a nice and cool 62 degrees too.

Check your actuator, although your tires are definitely hurting you, your MPH should be closer to 94.





Launching with VSA on after a 2200 rpm torque brake will definitely cut power and you will bog off the line. I tested it out

 

i have never even tried running with the vsa on

 

My first stock run was a 15.2, but I get horrible wheel hop and still do. Waiting for scalberts radius arms Good first try

 

VSA was off, the tires are bald as hell and thas y my 60 is weak and thats y my 15.3 sucks i will run again when i get just tires and rims, i'll keep u guys posted