Top 10 Upgrades/Modifications
#1
Top 10 Upgrades/Modifications
I have a basic 2001 CL and am looking to make some modifications and am trying to get a feel for some of the most standard and must have upgrades.
What are the most common/typical upgrades to a CL .. I would also appreciate if you could tell me of any upgrades that you might have made..
Thanks!
What are the most common/typical upgrades to a CL .. I would also appreciate if you could tell me of any upgrades that you might have made..
Thanks!
#2
Please do a search for some of the topics But to answer...most of the people that have mods have gotten:
Comptech Headers 20-32hp
Comptech Springs approx. 1.5 drop
Comptech Sways
Either AEM/Xephyr2K Cold Air Intake 3-10hp
Some have installed the Apexi VAFC
Not sure if I have missed anything...but there you go.
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Tw1112
CL 3.0 '98 - Cleared bumper, Hiper/Piaa/Polarg bulbs all around, PIAA 1700x fogs, AEM CAI, V1, and Mugen Pedals.
Comptech Headers 20-32hp
Comptech Springs approx. 1.5 drop
Comptech Sways
Either AEM/Xephyr2K Cold Air Intake 3-10hp
Some have installed the Apexi VAFC
Not sure if I have missed anything...but there you go.
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Tw1112
CL 3.0 '98 - Cleared bumper, Hiper/Piaa/Polarg bulbs all around, PIAA 1700x fogs, AEM CAI, V1, and Mugen Pedals.
#3
Thanks for that list .. I am trying to get a feel of what most people have gotten, so I can put together, a <font color=red>"most popular upgrades"</font> or a <font color=red>"must have upgrades"</font> list. I know that a list like that wouldve helped a newbie like me ..
Anyways .. how about upgrades on things like, window tints, tire rims, indiglo emblems, wood trims, shift knobs, stereo upgrades, speaker, dash, pedals ... etc
Anyways .. how about upgrades on things like, window tints, tire rims, indiglo emblems, wood trims, shift knobs, stereo upgrades, speaker, dash, pedals ... etc
#4
Tires are also popular to upgrade depending on your driving. But it would not be a must upgrade.
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2001 Silver 3.2CLS
-Muds, Spoiler, Hardwire 8500, Prolarg M-6 lamps
Planning: Comptech Headers, Sways, CAI
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2001 Silver 3.2CLS
-Muds, Spoiler, Hardwire 8500, Prolarg M-6 lamps
Planning: Comptech Headers, Sways, CAI
#5
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by tel1sps:
Tires are also popular to upgrade depending on your driving. But it would not be a must upgrade.
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Tires are also popular to upgrade depending on your driving. But it would not be a must upgrade.
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I hate to admint, my driving is fairly agressive .. 3 tickets in 2001 already
#6
This is how my TL-S will go.
installed:
Comptech Headers
Comptech Filter (it was free).
Comptech Springs
maybe future mod:
Comptech Sways
225/45 17 Potenza S-02 Pole Position
probably nots:
CAI (too noisy for small gains)
VAFCEv-tech thingie. (not dealer/emissions friendly for small gains)
installed:
Comptech Headers
Comptech Filter (it was free).
Comptech Springs
maybe future mod:
Comptech Sways
225/45 17 Potenza S-02 Pole Position
probably nots:
CAI (too noisy for small gains)
VAFCEv-tech thingie. (not dealer/emissions friendly for small gains)
#7
headers,
sways,
springs,
tires
shocks
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CL-S
White/Ebony/Navi/Spoiler/Visor/Full Bra/Mud Guards/Cargo Net/Acura Car Cover/Tint 20%,35%,5% on Sun Roof, Rockford 250a2 Amp w/JL10w6 / K&N Drop in Filter. Comptech Springs. Polarg m-6.
Comptech Headers, Comptech Sways, Eurolite Xenon Crystal high beams.
AEM CAI once they decide to make the dame thing.
235/40/17's or 225/45/17's once I found out which one works for me.
gtech 0-60 6.03 w/ 438 pound load. preheader.
sways,
springs,
tires
shocks
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CL-S
White/Ebony/Navi/Spoiler/Visor/Full Bra/Mud Guards/Cargo Net/Acura Car Cover/Tint 20%,35%,5% on Sun Roof, Rockford 250a2 Amp w/JL10w6 / K&N Drop in Filter. Comptech Springs. Polarg m-6.
Comptech Headers, Comptech Sways, Eurolite Xenon Crystal high beams.
AEM CAI once they decide to make the dame thing.
235/40/17's or 225/45/17's once I found out which one works for me.
gtech 0-60 6.03 w/ 438 pound load. preheader.
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#8
Check my signature. I think the BEST performance gain is rims/tires. But HIGH QUALITY rims and tires. I shaved around a 1/2 second off my 0-60 by removing almost 50 lbs of unsprung weight from my car and increasing traction with the tires. Around the corners, well, let's say I'll destroy any CLS (regardless of horsepower) on anything other than a straight line. Our stock tires are horrible and our stock rims are SUPER heavy.
PS - I am expecting some heat for this statement, but it's true.
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Silver CL-S w/ Navi, Spoiler, Wheel Locks, Trunk Tray, 19169, 9005
Toyo 235/45ZR17-97W* T1-S Proxes on 17X8 SSR Competition Wheels (47.2 lbs lighter than stock wheel+tire setup)
G-Tech (Full tank of gas, 60F, VSA off, SS) - 5.94 seconds
V-1 Hardwired, Comptech Sways on order
PS - I am expecting some heat for this statement, but it's true.
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Silver CL-S w/ Navi, Spoiler, Wheel Locks, Trunk Tray, 19169, 9005
Toyo 235/45ZR17-97W* T1-S Proxes on 17X8 SSR Competition Wheels (47.2 lbs lighter than stock wheel+tire setup)
G-Tech (Full tank of gas, 60F, VSA off, SS) - 5.94 seconds
V-1 Hardwired, Comptech Sways on order
#9
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Technique:
Check my signature. I think the BEST performance gain is rims/tires. But HIGH QUALITY rims and tires. I shaved around a 1/2 second off my 0-60 by removing almost 50 lbs of unsprung weight from my car and increasing traction with the tires. Around the corners, well, let's say I'll destroy any CLS (regardless of horsepower) on anything other than a straight line. Our
stock tires are horrible and our stock rims are SUPER heavy.
I hate to admit it but I second Tech on this one. I have springs and stock tires. I drove his car with the new rims and tires with stock susp. He would out corner me any day just because of those damn tires. IMO tires are a must!!!!! a car this fast needs more grip...
PS - I am expecting some heat for this statement, but it's true.
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Check my signature. I think the BEST performance gain is rims/tires. But HIGH QUALITY rims and tires. I shaved around a 1/2 second off my 0-60 by removing almost 50 lbs of unsprung weight from my car and increasing traction with the tires. Around the corners, well, let's say I'll destroy any CLS (regardless of horsepower) on anything other than a straight line. Our
stock tires are horrible and our stock rims are SUPER heavy.
I hate to admit it but I second Tech on this one. I have springs and stock tires. I drove his car with the new rims and tires with stock susp. He would out corner me any day just because of those damn tires. IMO tires are a must!!!!! a car this fast needs more grip...
PS - I am expecting some heat for this statement, but it's true.
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01 CL-S Black/Tan
Comptech Springs, V1
#10
Technique,
I would totally agree with you. The best performance value is the suspension/tires/rims package. I agree that reducing the unsprung mass will make a whole world of a difference. When I had my Prelude Si, I shaved off .2-.3sec on top of the already .3-.4 sec off of the 1/4 mile with headers/exhaust/intake. My rims/tires were 17 x 7 SSR Integral on 215/40/17 tires. Lap times were even more improved!
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Frank
01-S White/Parchment
Comptech Sways & Springs
I would totally agree with you. The best performance value is the suspension/tires/rims package. I agree that reducing the unsprung mass will make a whole world of a difference. When I had my Prelude Si, I shaved off .2-.3sec on top of the already .3-.4 sec off of the 1/4 mile with headers/exhaust/intake. My rims/tires were 17 x 7 SSR Integral on 215/40/17 tires. Lap times were even more improved!
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Frank
01-S White/Parchment
Comptech Sways & Springs
#13
They (Tl-S wheels) should be slightly lighter than the CL-S wheels as they are 17x6.5 and not 17x7 in the CL-S.. I don't know the exact weight differences but just for the sheer size differential there should be less weight in the TL-S ones.
For tires I would go with 235/40/18's but I sure like the weights of those 17" SSR Competition wheels they have at tirerack.com,
only 14.4 lbs per wheel.
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2001 Satin silver CL-S
* no navi, spoiler, mudguards
* wheel locks, full front mask
* fenderwell and door trim
* soon Comptech springs and sways
* 5% tint rear side, back
For tires I would go with 235/40/18's but I sure like the weights of those 17" SSR Competition wheels they have at tirerack.com,
only 14.4 lbs per wheel.
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2001 Satin silver CL-S
* no navi, spoiler, mudguards
* wheel locks, full front mask
* fenderwell and door trim
* soon Comptech springs and sways
* 5% tint rear side, back
#14
Holy shit. Do NOT replace your rims with the TL-S rims!!! 6.5 width SUCKS ASS!
Get some 17X7.5 or 17X8. Hell, my rims are 17X8 and are like 10 lbs lighter than the TL-S rims.
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Silver CL-S w/ Navi, Spoiler, Wheel Locks, Trunk Tray, 19169, 9005
Toyo 235/45ZR17-97W* T1-S Proxes on 17X8 SSR Competition Wheels (47.2 lbs lighter than stock wheel+tire setup)
G-Tech (Full tank of gas, 60F, VSA off, SS) - 5.94 seconds
V-1 Hardwired, Comptech Sways on order
Get some 17X7.5 or 17X8. Hell, my rims are 17X8 and are like 10 lbs lighter than the TL-S rims.
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Silver CL-S w/ Navi, Spoiler, Wheel Locks, Trunk Tray, 19169, 9005
Toyo 235/45ZR17-97W* T1-S Proxes on 17X8 SSR Competition Wheels (47.2 lbs lighter than stock wheel+tire setup)
G-Tech (Full tank of gas, 60F, VSA off, SS) - 5.94 seconds
V-1 Hardwired, Comptech Sways on order
#15
must have upgrades:
-a japanese air freshener
-curb feelers
-the silver silhoutte of that sexy chick
that you see on mexican cars
-mugen power stickers
-fake fuba self adhesive attennae
-chrome fender trim
superdds
-a japanese air freshener
-curb feelers
-the silver silhoutte of that sexy chick
that you see on mexican cars
-mugen power stickers
-fake fuba self adhesive attennae
-chrome fender trim
superdds
#16
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by FDao:
Technique,
I would totally agree with you. The best performance value is the suspension/tires/rims package. I agree that reducing the unsprung mass will make a whole world of a difference. When I had my Prelude Si, I shaved off .2-.3sec on top of the already .3-.4 sec off of the 1/4 mile with headers/exhaust/intake. My rims/tires were 17 x 7 SSR Integral on 215/40/17 tires. Lap times were even more improved!
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Technique,
I would totally agree with you. The best performance value is the suspension/tires/rims package. I agree that reducing the unsprung mass will make a whole world of a difference. When I had my Prelude Si, I shaved off .2-.3sec on top of the already .3-.4 sec off of the 1/4 mile with headers/exhaust/intake. My rims/tires were 17 x 7 SSR Integral on 215/40/17 tires. Lap times were even more improved!
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1. The wheels dance over washboard like they are on air. (A guy at TireRack said one guy with a CLS got the wheels with stock tires and he had a skipping problem with his CD player on a washboard road. Problem solved.) The ride is now better than stock and I'm running 39psi f/r with the 48lb lighter rims (total weight reduction tires+wheels). The tires make the car stick so well, that if you let someone look at the speedo in some twisties, they won't believe it.
2. The wheel weight not only improves the feel of the steering and the feel over bumps, but also makes the car feel like I dumped a couple of people out of the car. I was running quicker the other day at 85 degrees out than had previously felt at 40 degrees out. (And my car really feels faster in cold weather).
3. I'm getting the headers -- these seem to be expensive, but worth the front wheel dyno gains.
Finally, if I ever had to chase people for a living, I'd get some better brake stuff. I think the Brembos are very expensive. Perhaps, someone has figured out a slotted/dot 4/brake fluid solution. This car needs a lot more braking in the front. They should have put 12.x inch brakes in the front. (Not a lot of fun, but if you get an idiot in front of you, you wan't to stop fast.)
The air induction, sways, springs and the rest well...
I, for one, would like to see a before and after graph of the headers WITH a CAI. Not just one or the other.
I would also like to see just how the sway bars work without the springs. The car should get a change to oversteer with the increased roll-resistance in the rear. The car with the Toyo's and Tires already seems great. I asked a few "test subjects" about the perception of "roll" and they didn't notice. Perhaps those stock tires with their bubble-gum sidewalls are playing suspension (when they should really be holding the tread on the ground).
(my .02)
(Also, my thanks to Technique for his pioneering efforts on the SSR Competion wheels.)
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2001 Satin Silver Cl-S w/ NAVI
- Mud Guards
- Wheel locks
- Toyo 235/45ZR17-97W* T1S Proxies on 17x8" SSR Competition rims (~48lbs lighter)
- (pre-SSR wheels time) --Gtech 1/8th tank 40F ~=6.1
- Zaino magic
- Sways, headers, CAI comming soon
#17
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by NOVAwhiteTypeS:
headers,
sways,
springs,
tires
shocks
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headers,
sways,
springs,
tires
shocks
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