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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 12:22 AM
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Unhappy Ticket Please Pt.II

Well my Az friends it was a cold day in hell here, on 6/27/08! I am sorry to say yes part two of the ticket marathon is taking place again! I got my fourth ticket for speeding in the CLS I dont know what the hell I am gonna do now, I used whats called a PJC, for my last ticket and basically pardoned me on my last ticket, but it its gonna hit me on this one My insurance is gonna shoot through the roof or even, I might have to sell the CLS Anyone have any run ins with tickets lately or want to share their pain of gettin your tickets in the past do so now, cause I dont think I am the only one plz, to help me get through this stressful situation at this time. I went about a yr w/o one, and sure enough, like a sittin duck i got taken again in the CLS wooooo hoooooo!
Old Jun 28, 2008 | 12:30 AM
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beg for mercy in court.
Old Jun 28, 2008 | 12:36 AM
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get a lawyer
Old Jun 28, 2008 | 01:06 AM
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 01:11 AM
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1. Get a lawyer
2. Buy a radar/laser jammer
3. OR you can just stop speeding.

I chose number 3 after my second ticket in a year.
Old Jun 28, 2008 | 01:12 AM
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Yea for real, im gonna go insane I am gonna have to drive like a old lady lol! Im def leanin towards gettin a lawyer though
Old Jun 28, 2008 | 02:08 AM
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man ive had 11 tickets in my lifetime... 10 of those were in my jeep when i was 18 so I learned the hard, and the dumb way.

Have had my CL for over a year and a half and have not had one cop pull me over yet... much of it is just being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

I can completely understand the need for speed in the CL... I gotta gas it at least once every time i get in
Old Jun 28, 2008 | 02:35 AM
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Agreed on learning the hard and dumb way. I have had only 5 tickets in my lifetime I think (not counting parking). The worst is Wisconsin - staties every few miles on the highway. Got two $250 tickets on two consecutive drives through WI.

Personally, I don't really speed that much anymore (being lowered kind of influences that esp. in the city). I only really put the hammer down when I am quite sure there is minimal cop presence (and have the radar detector volume maxed out).

And about Laser - unless you have a jammer once you're tagged thats it. However, I have heard that if you slam on the brakes and change lanes the laser has a hard time locking on and they can't get a reading accurate enough to ticket you based on it. However, this might be old tech I am speaking of, and new guns might be better. Anyone else have input on this theory?
Old Jun 28, 2008 | 10:25 AM
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VIPCLS, did/do you have a radar detector? if so what model?
Old Jun 28, 2008 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by underst8
And about Laser - unless you have a jammer once you're tagged thats it. However, I have heard that if you slam on the brakes and change lanes the laser has a hard time locking on and they can't get a reading accurate enough to ticket you based on it. However, this might be old tech I am speaking of, and new guns might be better. Anyone else have input on this theory?

didn't you just answer your own question before you even posed the question?
laser is operated by an officer trained to do it. there's only a handful here, and yes, once you're tagged, they have your speed. can't run away from a beam of light, eh
Old Jun 28, 2008 | 01:26 PM
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VIPCLS, did/do you have a radar detector? if so what model?
Yea I have a radar detector, I have the Beltroncis Vector 940 every type of detection band available. The whole incident was BS really, which I am to blame really, 85 in 65. Never had me clocked, radar never went off until he jumps into his cruiser and it went crazy on K or X band, which at that time I think he typed a speed in for the records in court! The officer was actually a undercover Durango K-9, that I passed on the same side of the freeway. I admit I was driving a little careless, but not so fast that he should have pulled me! I mean I was in traffic, and usually as I am gettin pulled ur heart rate goes up a little, but not this time, I was like what the hell is this fool pullin me for? So he pulls me I role down my pass side window and I say whats up! He says liscense and reg plz. Then he says u about blew off my doors back there! Whatever man u just want a ticket here at the end of the month and want to be a pain! I mean I respect police officer duties but come on I was just barely goin that fast. Then he asked me how fast u think u were goin? And I said 79 or 80? Then he saw my radar and then he says, ur relyin to much on ur radar arn't u, my reply was no. Anyway after all the bs he comes back to my pass side window, and says step out of the car plz. So I step out of the car, and he hands me my citation and asks me do I have any guns or contraband in the vehicle I should know about? I say a knife, and he replies ok. Then he asks to search the vehicle and I comply. So here I am on the side of 540 interstate at 11am lookin like a dumbass while this cop goes through my shit!!! It was no less than a 50 sec search and he says, man I havent ever seen a cleaner car in my life!! My reply was yea I keep it clean. I just feel that gettin pulled over for speedin is one of the stupidest ways the gov can get money and insurance to get moola. I also believe I have somewhat of a case here.... First off he never had me locked in his radar, and second he should have searched me before he handed me the citation, is what I was told by others I know!! It just seems like the folks on the road work against u when u get a ticket, because I was just tryin to get around the other SLOW drivers and dumb ass truckers that ride in the fast lane on the road. If it wasnt for them, and my impatience, I wouldnt have gotten a ticket in the first place
Old Jun 28, 2008 | 01:35 PM
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Is it that hard to obey the law? Slow down!

And you're an IDIOT for letting a LEO search your car. I have been asked the question several times in the past, my firm and polite answer is, "No officer, you may not search my car." What if you or your friend "forgot" you had "something" in your car. You're screwed.

Knowing your rights and limits will keep you out of trouble.
Old Jun 28, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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If you know your car is clean, you already have the ticket in hand and he ASKS to search, the answer should always be NO. You have nothing to lose, you already have the ticket and you have nothing in the car. If you did, he would have used the K9 and would not need to ASK.

If I got pulled over and ticketed at the speed I was going (as opposed to catching a break) w/o my 9500i going off, once I have the ticket in hand I am going to ask to see the gun. Especially if I am flowing with traffic as opposed to flossing thru it.

If they refuse or didn't use a gun, you can bet I am taking a day off to attend court. Too bad you admitted how fast you were going - can't take it to court if you have admitted it. If an officer asks how fast you were going and you answer then you have just waived your 5th amendment right to not self incrementation.

Un-marked car / Undercover cop w/o radar - sounds like you are screwed even if you were using the best radar detector / jammer combo with a lead car out in front (a.k.a. a rabbit).
Old Jun 28, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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So ur sayin I have no case in court, just cause I admitted to goin 79 or 80? He wrote it for 85. I am still gonna proceed to get a lawyer, and see what I can do from here, only time will tell And the reason I let the officer search my vehicle is because I heard u need to comply with the officer and do as he says and sometimes, but not always u get a break, and also knowin that my car was clean I had no prob with it.
Old Jun 28, 2008 | 03:07 PM
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Still go to court; the officer may not show up and thus the state has no way of laying the ground work (i.e. verification of the document by a witness) to introduce the ticket into evidence and in that case you should have the case bounced for lack of evidence. Of course the judge could always reschedule the case but that isn't likely for a speeding ticket. If they do, immediately challenge saying it violates your right to a speedy trial and that the state set this date!

Also, you might try and speak to the Court Referral Officer before court. Talk to them and see if there is a 2 day driving program or something special you can attend to keep your license. Explain to them that you need your car for work and losing it would cause a hardship on your family and you are very very sorry and you won't ever speed again, blah blah blah. Maybe you can get them to speak up in court for you. Down here in Alabama the CRO sees the judge all of the time and the judge will listen to them 90% of the time.

That being said you have went from trying to say that you were not speeding to now having to debate 79/80 vs 85. Unless these 5/6 miles put you into a bigger ticket points wise, I would say this argument isn't worth time. The judge would be like 79 is still speeding and has the same fines (most likely, depends on your jurisdiction).

One other thing you might check is the law for interstate tickets. Here in Alabama we have a law that says your town must have 20,000 people in it for you to write tickets on the interstate. So if this was a local boy (as opposed to a state trooper) you might can get it bounced. This is why sheriff's in Alabama give warnings on the interstate to most cars - except those out of stater's who don't know and will pay the ticket anyway
Old Jun 28, 2008 | 04:27 PM
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join the military lol. im in the navy and everytime ive been pulled over i just so happened to pull out my military id card when going for my license. then there like oh your in the navy... just slow it down and get out of here. i swear that has happened everytime ive been pulled over in my cls.
Old Jun 28, 2008 | 06:13 PM
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learn where speed traps are and go slow near them. just being aware of where i was has helped me avoid potential tickets.

get a good lawyer and hope for the best.
good luck dude
Old Jun 28, 2008 | 06:33 PM
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slow down...don't speed...this is more of a cartalk thread.
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