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02-12-2003, 10:04 AM
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The G35 has PAINTED Silver Plastic. That is CHEAP. Instead of doing something like a Trim kit of Alum, they paint it Silver. Sorry but every review that has come out on the G35 has complained about the materials used on it. They are not up to quality. Real Trim, is NOT PAINTED. Real Alum Trim. Like Maximized said, they are the benchmark to interiors. #1 reason why I like it so much.
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Again....a COMPLETELY SUBJECTIVE analysis...
Cheap silver plastic??? did you not read my post?? I said give me a reason BESIDES materials used...you have no idea how much infiniti pays for each center console in the G35...and likewise Audi's A4. Real Trim??? WTF is "real trim"?
The fact about the G35s interior is that it's STYLING NOT IT'S QUALITY turns some people off. If you're one of those people then fine. But don't go around saying that Infiniti's have cheap interiors simply because you don't like the styling. As for the "cheap plastic" Center Console, it's solid, functional, the pieces fit together perfectly...so what's the problem?? Cheap silver plastic is NOT a respectible response because you have absolutely NOTHING to base that on short of what one or two auto critics and yourself have said.
Again....a COMPLETELY SUBJECTIVE analysis...
Cheap silver plastic??? did you not read my post?? I said give me a reason BESIDES materials used...you have no idea how much infiniti pays for each center console in the G35...and likewise Audi's A4. Real Trim??? WTF is "real trim"?
The fact about the G35s interior is that it's STYLING NOT IT'S QUALITY turns some people off. If you're one of those people then fine. But don't go around saying that Infiniti's have cheap interiors simply because you don't like the styling. As for the "cheap plastic" Center Console, it's solid, functional, the pieces fit together perfectly...so what's the problem?? Cheap silver plastic is NOT a respectible response because you have absolutely NOTHING to base that on short of what one or two auto critics and yourself have said.
02-12-2003, 07:10 PM
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The interior in the G35 looks good if you ask me. I'd definately get one before the A4, but thats just my opinion.
The interior in the G35 looks good if you ask me. I'd definately get one before the A4, but thats just my opinion.
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Again.....No one posting on this board is a Automotive design specialist. The people that know and analyze cars, will cleary state that Audi is the benchmark for interiors.
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Originally posted by Maximized
Again.....No one posting on this board is a Automotive design specialist. The people that know and analyze cars, will cleary state that Audi is the benchmark for interiors.
Again.....No one posting on this board is a Automotive design specialist. The people that know and analyze cars, will cleary state that Audi is the benchmark for interiors.
02-12-2003, 10:22 PM
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That A4 interior looks like it's from the early 90s....plus...and thank you for posting a pic..because I completely forgot about it. The parking brake is nearly impossible to reach with the "sears tower" armrest in place. With your elbow placed high up on the arm rest, I don't see how you could even comfortably reach the shifter.
Furthermore...the G35s interior is "lean" and "sporty" looking while the A4s looks like something out of a lincoln town car.
Gay J - face it...the Audi's interior is NO BETTER than the G35. And now after seeing the pictures of both, you further proved to me that the Audi's interior has absolutely no style.
Furthermore...the G35s interior is "lean" and "sporty" looking while the A4s looks like something out of a lincoln town car.
Gay J - face it...the Audi's interior is NO BETTER than the G35. And now after seeing the pictures of both, you further proved to me that the Audi's interior has absolutely no style.
02-12-2003, 10:35 PM
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Originally posted by TypeSKiller
That A4 interior looks like it's from the early 90s....plus...and thank you for posting a pic..because I completely forgot about it. The parking brake is nearly impossible to reach with the "sears tower" armrest in place. With your elbow placed high up on the arm rest, I don't see how you could even comfortably reach the shifter.
Furthermore...the G35s interior is "lean" and "sporty" looking while the A4s looks like something out of a lincoln town car.
Gay J - face it...the Audi's interior is NO BETTER than the G35. And now after seeing the pictures of both, you further proved to me that the Audi's interior has absolutely no style.
That A4 interior looks like it's from the early 90s....plus...and thank you for posting a pic..because I completely forgot about it. The parking brake is nearly impossible to reach with the "sears tower" armrest in place. With your elbow placed high up on the arm rest, I don't see how you could even comfortably reach the shifter.
Furthermore...the G35s interior is "lean" and "sporty" looking while the A4s looks like something out of a lincoln town car.
Gay J - face it...the Audi's interior is NO BETTER than the G35. And now after seeing the pictures of both, you further proved to me that the Audi's interior has absolutely no style.
Drive one and you will see that the ergonomics are perfectly fine.B. The G35s interior is plasticy and cheaper looking.....Notice NO WOOD. For 35k a near luxury car should have wood. Even an Accord comes with wood.
C. The G35 uses Maxima switch gear, a Z steering wheels, etc. The A4 uses AUDI switchgear, Audi steering wheels, etc.
Your opinion could be that the G35 has no style, great. You are by no means a expert as am I, but you keep denying the fact that the experts state otherwise. Fact is, designers of cars will state that Audi is benchmark of interiors. I bet that Infiniti had one in their engineering facility to "benchmark" it when they drew up the plans for the interiors of their cars.
02-12-2003, 10:38 PM
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To end this debate:
http://www.edmunds.com/new/market/lu...excontent..0.*
Notice the Pros of the A4 then check the cons of the G35.
Per MotorTrend:
"The G35 might have stolen the Acura's finishing position were it not for its frustrating ergonomics: seat controls mounted in the inboard seat-bottom bolster, a manumatic with overlong throws, a mirror adjuster beneath the steering wheel, and a goofy mix of black plastic toggles, flush pushbuttons, and metal rockers. You'll call out the bloodhounds to locate the volume control. Hey, there it is, over on the dual-glove-box side. Of course."
http://www.edmunds.com/new/market/lu...excontent..0.*
Notice the Pros of the A4 then check the cons of the G35.
Per MotorTrend:
"The G35 might have stolen the Acura's finishing position were it not for its frustrating ergonomics: seat controls mounted in the inboard seat-bottom bolster, a manumatic with overlong throws, a mirror adjuster beneath the steering wheel, and a goofy mix of black plastic toggles, flush pushbuttons, and metal rockers. You'll call out the bloodhounds to locate the volume control. Hey, there it is, over on the dual-glove-box side. Of course."
02-12-2003, 10:51 PM
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Originally posted by Maximized
To end this debate:
http://www.edmunds.com/new/market/lu...excontent..0.*
Notice the Pros of the A4 then check the cons of the G35.
Per MotorTrend:
"The G35 might have stolen the Acura's finishing position were it not for its frustrating ergonomics: seat controls mounted in the inboard seat-bottom bolster, a manumatic with overlong throws, a mirror adjuster beneath the steering wheel, and a goofy mix of black plastic toggles, flush pushbuttons, and metal rockers. You'll call out the bloodhounds to locate the volume control. Hey, there it is, over on the dual-glove-box side. Of course."
To end this debate:
http://www.edmunds.com/new/market/lu...excontent..0.*
Notice the Pros of the A4 then check the cons of the G35.
Per MotorTrend:
"The G35 might have stolen the Acura's finishing position were it not for its frustrating ergonomics: seat controls mounted in the inboard seat-bottom bolster, a manumatic with overlong throws, a mirror adjuster beneath the steering wheel, and a goofy mix of black plastic toggles, flush pushbuttons, and metal rockers. You'll call out the bloodhounds to locate the volume control. Hey, there it is, over on the dual-glove-box side. Of course."
You know why they talk about the "quality" of the Audi's "interior"...BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING ELSE TO THE CAR...it's SLOW...handles like POOP, it's HEAVY and, it's exterior styling is marginal at best.
Likewise....they have to find SOMETHING to bitch about with regards to the G35...and they picked the interior...because there is absolutely NOTHING else to complain about in the car...It doesn't mean that the interior is BAD...just that they needed SOMETHING to put after Cons:
Why do you think they named the G35 CAR OF THE YEAR...and NOT the A4?????
BTW - If wood is the "end all" the the quality of auto interiors...then Pontiac should put some wood in their cars and they'll automatically have the best interiors around.
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Originally posted by TypeSKiller
You know why they talk about the "quality" of the Audi's "interior"...BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING ELSE TO THE CAR...it's SLOW...handles like POOP, it's HEAVY and, it's exterior styling is marginal at best.
Likewise....they have to find SOMETHING to bitch about with regards to the G35...and they picked the interior...because there is absolutely NOTHING else to complain about in the car...It doesn't mean that the interior is BAD...just that they needed SOMETHING to put after Cons:
Why do you think they named the G35 CAR OF THE YEAR...and NOT the A4?????
BTW - If wood is the "end all" the the quality of auto interiors...then Pontiac should put some wood in their cars and they'll automatically have the best interiors around.
You know why they talk about the "quality" of the Audi's "interior"...BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING ELSE TO THE CAR...it's SLOW...handles like POOP, it's HEAVY and, it's exterior styling is marginal at best.
Likewise....they have to find SOMETHING to bitch about with regards to the G35...and they picked the interior...because there is absolutely NOTHING else to complain about in the car...It doesn't mean that the interior is BAD...just that they needed SOMETHING to put after Cons:
Why do you think they named the G35 CAR OF THE YEAR...and NOT the A4?????
BTW - If wood is the "end all" the the quality of auto interiors...then Pontiac should put some wood in their cars and they'll automatically have the best interiors around.
You are pointing out misinformation, rather than facts. Again, I dont know how you can dispute many euro and american magazines who constantly state that Audis interior is "the benchmark"
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Originally posted by Maximized
Again, I dont know how you can dispute many euro and american magazines who constantly state that Audis interior is "the benchmark"
Again, I dont know how you can dispute many euro and american magazines who constantly state that Audis interior is "the benchmark"
oh..and BTW - the quote must be in reference to the A4s interior...not some A8 review...although I doubt that they would say that about the A8 either...
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Originally posted by TypeSKiller
You have "the benchmark" in quotes....now show me where you got it....give me a link...and I'll shut up. Otherwise you are spouting misinformation.
oh..and BTW - the quote must be in reference to the A4s interior...not some A8 review...although I doubt that they would say that about the A8 either...
You have "the benchmark" in quotes....now show me where you got it....give me a link...and I'll shut up. Otherwise you are spouting misinformation.
oh..and BTW - the quote must be in reference to the A4s interior...not some A8 review...although I doubt that they would say that about the A8 either...
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Originally posted by Maximized
http://www.audiusa.com/design_attributes
http://www.audiusa.com/design_attributes
Second the ONLY quote that even gives mention to Audi's interior maybe being the best is from the TORONTO SUN.....I rest my case.
You still didn't quote "the benchmark"....
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The ARM rest is adjustable. Also I can believe you just made that statement about the interior looks like from the early 90s!!! lol!! You are so damn biased its not funny.
Originally posted by TypeSKiller
That A4 interior looks like it's from the early 90s....plus...and thank you for posting a pic..because I completely forgot about it. The parking brake is nearly impossible to reach with the "sears tower" armrest in place. With your elbow placed high up on the arm rest, I don't see how you could even comfortably reach the shifter.
Furthermore...the G35s interior is "lean" and "sporty" looking while the A4s looks like something out of a lincoln town car.
Gay J - face it...the Audi's interior is NO BETTER than the G35. And now after seeing the pictures of both, you further proved to me that the Audi's interior has absolutely no style.
That A4 interior looks like it's from the early 90s....plus...and thank you for posting a pic..because I completely forgot about it. The parking brake is nearly impossible to reach with the "sears tower" armrest in place. With your elbow placed high up on the arm rest, I don't see how you could even comfortably reach the shifter.
Furthermore...the G35s interior is "lean" and "sporty" looking while the A4s looks like something out of a lincoln town car.
Gay J - face it...the Audi's interior is NO BETTER than the G35. And now after seeing the pictures of both, you further proved to me that the Audi's interior has absolutely no style.
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Well in Edmunds comparison test it beat the G35 in handling and almost beat the BMW. Go read for yourself. There words were, the Quattro Audi ruled the Slalom. It might be slow, but it can be made much faster with a few 100 bucks. Exterior stlying marginal at best?! HOW COME EVERYONE LOVES IT?! God oh mighty. You have nothing good to say about it except negatives.
Umm, Because the A4 wasn't a radical redesign or a new car. The A4 was a freshend up design. Why you think the 5th gen Max didn't get it? LOL.
Umm, Because the A4 wasn't a radical redesign or a new car. The A4 was a freshend up design. Why you think the 5th gen Max didn't get it? LOL.
Originally posted by TypeSKiller
You know why they talk about the "quality" of the Audi's "interior"...BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING ELSE TO THE CAR...it's SLOW...handles like POOP, it's HEAVY and, it's exterior styling is marginal at best.
Likewise....they have to find SOMETHING to bitch about with regards to the G35...and they picked the interior...because there is absolutely NOTHING else to complain about in the car...It doesn't mean that the interior is BAD...just that they needed SOMETHING to put after Cons:
Why do you think they named the G35 CAR OF THE YEAR...and NOT the A4?????
BTW - If wood is the "end all" the the quality of auto interiors...then Pontiac should put some wood in their cars and they'll automatically have the best interiors around.
You know why they talk about the "quality" of the Audi's "interior"...BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING ELSE TO THE CAR...it's SLOW...handles like POOP, it's HEAVY and, it's exterior styling is marginal at best.
Likewise....they have to find SOMETHING to bitch about with regards to the G35...and they picked the interior...because there is absolutely NOTHING else to complain about in the car...It doesn't mean that the interior is BAD...just that they needed SOMETHING to put after Cons:
Why do you think they named the G35 CAR OF THE YEAR...and NOT the A4?????
BTW - If wood is the "end all" the the quality of auto interiors...then Pontiac should put some wood in their cars and they'll automatically have the best interiors around.
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"Audi is leading a resurgence of automotive design..."
Automobile Magazine
"The car's mixture of Teutonic good looks, stylish interior, sporting capabilities and reasonable base price proved tantalizing."
The National Post
"Nobody renders cockpits more inviting than Audi."
Car and Driver
"Audi is regarded as the best interior designer in the industry..."
Toronto Sun
Really? I think they all talk about the interior it seems to me.
Get a life, you just got owned.
Automobile Magazine
"The car's mixture of Teutonic good looks, stylish interior, sporting capabilities and reasonable base price proved tantalizing."
The National Post
"Nobody renders cockpits more inviting than Audi."
Car and Driver
"Audi is regarded as the best interior designer in the industry..."
Toronto Sun
Really? I think they all talk about the interior it seems to me.
Get a life, you just got owned.
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Better Picture of the Audi Interior...
Beautiful interiors are Audi's strong suit, and our ebony interior-equipped test car was no exception. (Photo by Scott Jacobs)
From Automotivetrends.com:
From the driver's seat, the A4 is comfortable, warm and inviting. Rich leather and real wood trim surround the cabin, and Audi's interior construction is the envy of the world with its tight-fitting panels and quality materials. European-style seats are comfortable for anyone, since they can be adjusted any way you choose, and gauges look like the face of a fine Swiss chronograph.
Thats more than enough to make you look stupid.
Beautiful interiors are Audi's strong suit, and our ebony interior-equipped test car was no exception. (Photo by Scott Jacobs)
From Automotivetrends.com:
From the driver's seat, the A4 is comfortable, warm and inviting. Rich leather and real wood trim surround the cabin, and Audi's interior construction is the envy of the world with its tight-fitting panels and quality materials. European-style seats are comfortable for anyone, since they can be adjusted any way you choose, and gauges look like the face of a fine Swiss chronograph.
Thats more than enough to make you look stupid.
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Some more to add:
Road Test Editor Neil Dunlop says:
What is all the fuss about? The Infiniti G35 has been a media darling, receiving accolades and finishing ahead of perennial leaders such as the BMW 3 Series and Audi A4 in comparisons at other auto mags. I think it's unwarranted. Sure it's got a lot going for it: unique exterior styling, especially the radical front end; a creamy 260-horsepower V6; a seamlessly shifting automatic transmission; and more grip than peanut butter on the roof of my dog's mouth. Also, it was the least expensive vehicle in our test, with a sticker $7,090 less than the BMW 330i. But, there's something missing. Let's call it harmony. I never felt at one with this car. At low speeds the steering is overboosted and at high speeds it feels a little numb. As a result, I never truly became part of the driving experience. And, while it boasts the highest horsepower in our test (shared with the Acura), it wasn't apparent. The breakaway speed I expected was missing, making me feel like I had missed a "full power" button or accidentally tripped a "reduce power" switch. Though the seats are comfortable, the modern sculpted interior fails to connect, leaving me feeling out of place in the cockpit. That's why this car, despite its attributes, finishes out of the top three for me.
Senior Road Test Editor Brent Romans says:
The G35 reminds me of the Lexus IS 300. Both are relatively new designs. Both are from car companies that didn't exist 15 years ago. Both were obviously benchmarked against the BMW 3 Series. And, most importantly, both fall short of their intended target. The G35 isn't far off the mark, however. In terms of power and features, the Infiniti matches or betters every car in this test. Its price, too, is very competitive. I like the interior and the way it's designed, especially the pop-up navigation screen (though our car didn't have that option). But the interior materials aren't nearly as magnificent as the German cars, and the driving experience isn't as involving. Yet, in the big picture, these are relatively minor issues. If you're shopping in this segment and don't have the budget to drop $40,000, the G35 is probably your best choice.
Road Test Editor Neil Dunlop says:
What is all the fuss about? The Infiniti G35 has been a media darling, receiving accolades and finishing ahead of perennial leaders such as the BMW 3 Series and Audi A4 in comparisons at other auto mags. I think it's unwarranted. Sure it's got a lot going for it: unique exterior styling, especially the radical front end; a creamy 260-horsepower V6; a seamlessly shifting automatic transmission; and more grip than peanut butter on the roof of my dog's mouth. Also, it was the least expensive vehicle in our test, with a sticker $7,090 less than the BMW 330i. But, there's something missing. Let's call it harmony. I never felt at one with this car. At low speeds the steering is overboosted and at high speeds it feels a little numb. As a result, I never truly became part of the driving experience. And, while it boasts the highest horsepower in our test (shared with the Acura), it wasn't apparent. The breakaway speed I expected was missing, making me feel like I had missed a "full power" button or accidentally tripped a "reduce power" switch. Though the seats are comfortable, the modern sculpted interior fails to connect, leaving me feeling out of place in the cockpit. That's why this car, despite its attributes, finishes out of the top three for me.
Senior Road Test Editor Brent Romans says:
The G35 reminds me of the Lexus IS 300. Both are relatively new designs. Both are from car companies that didn't exist 15 years ago. Both were obviously benchmarked against the BMW 3 Series. And, most importantly, both fall short of their intended target. The G35 isn't far off the mark, however. In terms of power and features, the Infiniti matches or betters every car in this test. Its price, too, is very competitive. I like the interior and the way it's designed, especially the pop-up navigation screen (though our car didn't have that option). But the interior materials aren't nearly as magnificent as the German cars, and the driving experience isn't as involving. Yet, in the big picture, these are relatively minor issues. If you're shopping in this segment and don't have the budget to drop $40,000, the G35 is probably your best choice.
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Originally posted by TypeSKiller
Per EVERY major magazine huh??? Do they posts charts every month or even year where they rank the "quality" of the interiors?? I asked you guys to give me an OBJECTIVE analysis...and all you can come back with is: "well this car magazine said this"....come on, that's really lame.
Per EVERY major magazine huh??? Do they posts charts every month or even year where they rank the "quality" of the interiors?? I asked you guys to give me an OBJECTIVE analysis...and all you can come back with is: "well this car magazine said this"....come on, that's really lame.
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You know I could sit here...and find all the "good" things that car mags and the like have said about the G35....but frankly, it's a waste of my time, because you would simply brush it off and not listen.
Fact is, the Audi interior is NOT for me. There's nothing special about it. It's not original in any way and it's very plain....that's my opinion...take it or leave it. If you have any further "bitches" about my analysis of interiors, I refer you to my first post on the subject in which I FULLY explained myself. Besides that...I'm done.
Fact is, the Audi interior is NOT for me. There's nothing special about it. It's not original in any way and it's very plain....that's my opinion...take it or leave it. If you have any further "bitches" about my analysis of interiors, I refer you to my first post on the subject in which I FULLY explained myself. Besides that...I'm done.
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Originally posted by Maximized
I would have to agree with Russ on this one, Infiniti cant touch the A4 in interior design/quality.
I would have to agree with Russ on this one, Infiniti cant touch the A4 in interior design/quality.
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Originally posted by F23A4
The irony is that JD Power rates the I35 Interior quality higher than the A4/S4 and 3.2TL; not to mention creature comforts, performance and dealer experience. (The G35 data is not yet avail on http://www.jdpower.com/auto/pvs/auto.jsp#) We'll have to wait and see on that one.
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The irony is that JD Power rates the I35 Interior quality higher than the A4/S4 and 3.2TL; not to mention creature comforts, performance and dealer experience. (The G35 data is not yet avail on http://www.jdpower.com/auto/pvs/auto.jsp#) We'll have to wait and see on that one.
Peace
"Everybody knows that the I35 is just a rebadged maxima"
Now who just got OWNED russ???
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Originally posted by TypeSKiller
You know I could sit here...and find all the "good" things that car mags and the like have said about the G35....but frankly, it's a waste of my time, because you would simply brush it off and not listen.
Fact is, the Audi interior is NOT for me. There's nothing special about it. It's not original in any way and it's very plain....that's my opinion...take it or leave it. If you have any further "bitches" about my analysis of interiors, I refer you to my first post on the subject in which I FULLY explained myself. Besides that...I'm done.
You know I could sit here...and find all the "good" things that car mags and the like have said about the G35....but frankly, it's a waste of my time, because you would simply brush it off and not listen.
Fact is, the Audi interior is NOT for me. There's nothing special about it. It's not original in any way and it's very plain....that's my opinion...take it or leave it. If you have any further "bitches" about my analysis of interiors, I refer you to my first post on the subject in which I FULLY explained myself. Besides that...I'm done.
Fact is, you were trying to disprove what experts had stated about the the A4 interior. Going by what the "experts" have to say the Audi has a much nicer interior design/quality. In most articles of different cars throughout the Audi line they will mention the details paid to the design of the interior. You can argue that, but then again its your opinion and you are by no means a expert.
And BTW....Autoweek stated that the Audi interior is a "benchmark" when they reviewed either the new A4 or upcoming A8.
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Originally posted by F23A4
The irony is that JD Power rates the I35 Interior quality higher than the A4/S4 and 3.2TL; not to mention creature comforts, performance and dealer experience. (The G35 data is not yet avail on http://www.jdpower.com/auto/pvs/auto.jsp#) We'll have to wait and see on that one.
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The irony is that JD Power rates the I35 Interior quality higher than the A4/S4 and 3.2TL; not to mention creature comforts, performance and dealer experience. (The G35 data is not yet avail on http://www.jdpower.com/auto/pvs/auto.jsp#) We'll have to wait and see on that one.
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02-13-2003, 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by TypeSKiller
wow...not that's good...too bad I didn't spend the time like russ and Jason did to dig up everything every said good about the car.
"Everybody knows that the I35 is just a rebadged maxima"
Now who just got OWNED russ???
wow...not that's good...too bad I didn't spend the time like russ and Jason did to dig up everything every said good about the car.
"Everybody knows that the I35 is just a rebadged maxima"
Now who just got OWNED russ???
02-13-2003, 10:33 AM
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Originally posted by SilverBullet
You did. Because if you ACTUALLY took the time to read instead of beign a dumbass and not reading and giving out false info you would see it was for the older B5 A4/S4 body. The new one is completely different as you can see and they have yet TO TEST IT with JD POWER.
You did. Because if you ACTUALLY took the time to read instead of beign a dumbass and not reading and giving out false info you would see it was for the older B5 A4/S4 body. The new one is completely different as you can see and they have yet TO TEST IT with JD POWER.
Jason said that Audi is "the benchmark" of interior quality....is the "old" A4/S4 not an Audi or somthing???
BTW- Russ...have I called YOU a dumbass??? I'd appreciate if you'd be slightly more mature and refrain from name calling.
02-13-2003, 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by Maximized
Thats fine...your opinion is your opinion and we will leave it at that.
Fact is, you were trying to disprove what experts had stated about the the A4 interior. Going by what the "experts" have to say the Audi has a much nicer interior design/quality. In most articles of different cars throughout the Audi line they will mention the details paid to the design of the interior. You can argue that, but then again its your opinion and you are by no means a expert.
And BTW....Autoweek stated that the Audi interior is a "benchmark" when they reviewed either the new A4 or upcoming A8.
Thats fine...your opinion is your opinion and we will leave it at that.
Fact is, you were trying to disprove what experts had stated about the the A4 interior. Going by what the "experts" have to say the Audi has a much nicer interior design/quality. In most articles of different cars throughout the Audi line they will mention the details paid to the design of the interior. You can argue that, but then again its your opinion and you are by no means a expert.
And BTW....Autoweek stated that the Audi interior is a "benchmark" when they reviewed either the new A4 or upcoming A8.
so who exactly IS an expert???? Can you get a masters degree in Automobile interiors??? I think not. It's ALL SUBJECTIVE...auto critics are no more non-experts than I am???
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Originally posted by TypeSKiller
wow...not that's good...too bad I didn't spend the time like russ and Jason did to dig up everything every said good about the car.
"Everybody knows that the I35 is just a rebadged maxima"
Now who just got OWNED russ???
wow...not that's good...too bad I didn't spend the time like russ and Jason did to dig up everything every said good about the car.
"Everybody knows that the I35 is just a rebadged maxima"
Now who just got OWNED russ???
Again, you are way to biased towards nissan. Open your eyes, read, and maybe you will notice the acclaims Audi gets for their interiors. BTW....I am by no means knockin Nissan/Infinti, its just that their level of play is a notch below the germans.
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Originally posted by TypeSKiller
so who exactly IS an expert???? Can you get a masters degree in Automobile interiors??? I think not. It's ALL SUBJECTIVE...auto critics are no more non-experts than I am???
so who exactly IS an expert???? Can you get a masters degree in Automobile interiors??? I think not. It's ALL SUBJECTIVE...auto critics are no more non-experts than I am???
If you dont realize this...quit posting.....Again, you are not an expert. If this was a case, I would be reading your name under a article in C&D,MT, etc.
These guys tests cars ranging from KIAs to Ferraris AS THEIR JOB....this makes them experts. They get to go to R&D facilities, test tracks, and talk directly to the manufacturers/designers. THIS IS WHAT MAKES THEIR WORD 1000X MORE VALID THAN YOURS
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Originally posted by Maximized
The I35 is a rebadged Maxima....You pay for the infiniti clock, backlit guages, and Infiniti floormats. The I30 I sat in had exactly the same leather, stereo, climate control, etc as my 2k.
Again, you are way to biased towards nissan. Open your eyes, read, and maybe you will notice the acclaims Audi gets for their interiors. BTW....I am by no means knockin Nissan/Infinti, its just that their level of play is a notch below the germans.
The I35 is a rebadged Maxima....You pay for the infiniti clock, backlit guages, and Infiniti floormats. The I30 I sat in had exactly the same leather, stereo, climate control, etc as my 2k.
Again, you are way to biased towards nissan. Open your eyes, read, and maybe you will notice the acclaims Audi gets for their interiors. BTW....I am by no means knockin Nissan/Infinti, its just that their level of play is a notch below the germans.
So if the I30 is simply a rebadged maxima why did it get higher marks from JD Power in body and interior quality than the AUDI A4 did??
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Originally posted by Maximized
If you dont realize this...quit posting.....Again, you are not an expert. If this was a case, I would be reading your name under a article in C&D,MT, etc.
These guys tests cars ranging from KIAs to Ferraris AS THEIR JOB....this makes them experts. They get to go to R&D facilities, test tracks, and talk directly to the manufacturers/designers. THIS IS WHAT MAKES THEIR WORD 1000X MORE VALID THAN YOURS
If you dont realize this...quit posting.....Again, you are not an expert. If this was a case, I would be reading your name under a article in C&D,MT, etc.
These guys tests cars ranging from KIAs to Ferraris AS THEIR JOB....this makes them experts. They get to go to R&D facilities, test tracks, and talk directly to the manufacturers/designers. THIS IS WHAT MAKES THEIR WORD 1000X MORE VALID THAN YOURS
) BS????? I thought their words were 1000x more valid than mine...or YOURS?
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Originally posted by TypeSKiller
just like they have "yet to test" the G35...what's your point??
Jason said that Audi is "the benchmark" of interior quality....is the "old" A4/S4 not an Audi or somthing???
BTW- Russ...have I called YOU a dumbass??? I'd appreciate if you'd be slightly more mature and refrain from name calling.
just like they have "yet to test" the G35...what's your point??
Jason said that Audi is "the benchmark" of interior quality....is the "old" A4/S4 not an Audi or somthing???
BTW- Russ...have I called YOU a dumbass??? I'd appreciate if you'd be slightly more mature and refrain from name calling.
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Originally posted by TypeSKiller
Jason said that Audi is "the benchmark" of interior quality....is the "old" A4/S4 not an Audi or somthing???
Jason said that Audi is "the benchmark" of interior quality....is the "old" A4/S4 not an Audi or somthing???
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Originally posted by SilverBullet
That hasn't stopped you in the past from calling me all sorts of names.
That hasn't stopped you in the past from calling me all sorts of names.
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Originally posted by TypeSKiller
So if the I30 is simply a rebadged maxima why did it get higher marks from JD Power in body and interior quality than the AUDI A4 did??
So if the I30 is simply a rebadged maxima why did it get higher marks from JD Power in body and interior quality than the AUDI A4 did??
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Originally posted by Maximized
And you know comparing a car that came out in 1996 to a car that came out in 2002 is a great comparison
And you know comparing a car that came out in 1996 to a car that came out in 2002 is a great comparison
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Originally posted by TypeSKiller
Jason...if anyone is biased it's you toward German cars....anything againt a German car...and the German car wins in your book.
So if the I30 is simply a rebadged maxima why did it get higher marks from JD Power in body and interior quality than the AUDI A4 did??
Jason...if anyone is biased it's you toward German cars....anything againt a German car...and the German car wins in your book.
So if the I30 is simply a rebadged maxima why did it get higher marks from JD Power in body and interior quality than the AUDI A4 did??
Quit your crap. Now your tossing it right back at him and he doesn't even OWN a german car. Neither do I yet! But you can find me bitching about the quality of the G35 when it first came out! So I am defintely not biased on this either.
Lets see here, if you go sit in a A4, B5 model, yeah it was not very good. But now they revamped it with the new designs they came out with for there cars. It's alot better than any car I have been in period. And many professionals have said this.
Like Jason said, you are one biased Nissan owner.
Your LEXUS blows away the G35 interior and its starting to become out dated itself.