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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 09:28 PM
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Technical Question for your gurus

Although this is a duplicate thread, I was hoping for more responses in the 2nd Gen forums. Sorry for the duplication.

I'm planning on removing my power steering this weekend, but still uncertain on how I want to approach it. I was looking at the input/output lines where it connects to the rack, and it seems like it'll be more than a pain in the ass to get to where I need to get to. On top of that, even if I could loop it from where I wanted to, it seems the lines would be pinched due to spacing. I was considering cutting the power steering hose that connects to the pump and attaching it with a fitting and hose directly to the reservoir. Also thought the reservoir will now act as a breather. You think that should do the job? The purpose of the breather is to allow air and fluid to move through the rack with less resistance at low speeds which would help out a lot at the tracks. So the main question is, will the reservoir act as a breather now, or should I "T" off the hose into a seperate breather???

Let me know any inputs you have
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 09:45 PM
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Not being a smart ass, just wondering why you want to do that?
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Starter
Not being a smart ass, just wondering why you want to do that?
You'll gain a couple more at the wheels.

So, cocoa dont you think your car is fast enough?

or will it never be fast enough?

By the way....your car is so fuckin sick!!!! That Vid was rediculous. Props!
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Starter
Not being a smart ass, just wondering why you want to do that?
For more steering response, you'll get a better feel for the road this way. I track my car. It's not driven on the streets legally, and it'll be a full on race car by the time I'm finished with it. Probably within another 2 years she'll be finished. Hopefully by then, I can build a 3.8L-4.0L 8k revving J series which I plan on doing (with the right amount of money, anythign can be done). Right now I'll be concentrating on chasis and brakes. The engine will be the last thing I rebuild.

As of now my car is just bare metal with more weight reduction to come. Again, it's not a street car, nor will it ever be. It will be trailored to and from the tracks.
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by slowcl-s
You'll gain a couple more at the wheels.

So, cocoa dont you think your car is fast enough?

or will it never be fast enough?

By the way....your car is so fuckin sick!!!! That Vid was rediculous. Props!
It'll never be fast enough untill I'm completely finished with this project. I want for it to pull like it does on the 125 shot, without it.
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 09:14 AM
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Where to you plan to run the car?
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Zippee
Where to you plan to run the car?
SCCA events in Tx and Cali.
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 12:29 PM
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on a big heavy car like the CL, removing the PS unit is a bad idea......
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 01:09 PM
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CLear your pm's.. Will send you a couple of links in regards to PS Removal..
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai
on a big heavy car like the CL, removing the PS unit is a bad idea......
That cars not that heavy... Maybe in the front end, but overall I don't think its that bad. But like the man said, trailored and ran at the track only!

Your golden!
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai
on a big heavy car like the CL, removing the PS unit is a bad idea......
3215 lbs stock. When the car is moving at higher speeds, you wont feel the weight. The reason why not having power steering in a car at low speeds suck, is due to the resistance in the air and fluids passing through in the rack and lines. The reason for the breather is to reduce that resistance by reducing the pressure. That is why I am asking the question I am asking. I was wondering if I could do this another way.


I've stripped the following:

A/C
A/C Condensor
A/C lines
A/C Evaporator
A/C vents
Heater core
Driver side airbag
Passenger side airbag
Passenger side seat
SRS Unit and wiring
Back seats
Moonroof
Panel from the ceiling
Door panels
Rear panels
Rear speakers
Jack
Spare tire
Carpet
Sound dampening material
Insulation from firewall
Center arm rest
Unnecessary wiring from Moonroof/Speakers/Rear defroster
Other misc stuff

Anything I don't need, I'm stripping. You'd be surprised by how much all this crap really weighed.

Soon to remove or replace by:

Tar, located on the floor from front to back (est. weight 117lbs from what I've read)
Windows replace by Plexi
Fenders (either custom made CF, or aluminum)
Hood replaced by CF
Trunk replaced by CF (custom)
Console to be replaced by Aluminum with just the necessary gauges



There are 3 ways to remove PS. Steps 2 and 3 have more than one way of doing it.

Step 1: Remove belt
Step 2: Remove belt and loop the system
Step 3: Remove belt, loop the system, and add a breather (track cars use this set up, again to help with lower speed turning)
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Cocoa
SCCA events in Tx and Cali.
What class?
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Zippee
What class?
A good question. Are you planning on running solos or race events? I don't think the car will be legal for racing. I could be wrong, but I don't think it's approved for any class currently, unless you have a similar "run what ya brung" Regional only class in your division like some do.
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 01:30 PM
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I would guess Prepared if not Modified class on Solo.
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 02:39 PM
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I removed the PS on my Accord. All I did was pull out the belt, pump, bracket, and reservoir. Noticeable difference in engine response. However it is difficult to drive at very low speed and I suspect may be very tiring on the track. My Accord 'only' weighs 2925lbs. stock too.
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueCLS6
I removed the PS on my Accord. All I did was pull out the belt, pump, bracket, and reservoir. Noticeable difference in engine response. However it is difficult to drive at very low speed and I suspect may be very tiring on the track. My Accord 'only' weighs 2925lbs. stock too.
The purpose of the breather is to make it turn more easily at low speeds as if you had PS. That is why I was asking if the reservoir would act as a breather or if I would have to still get one. Cause I was thinking about not looping it directly from the rack, but using the original lines and just modifying them without having the pump of course.
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