Taking car-intercooled TLS- to the track
10-01-2004, 04:16 PM
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Taking car-intercooled TLS- to the track
I do plan to go tomorrow to the track. I hope to have new and very improved track times and #s. Along with that I will be reporting on tranny results(this tranny has not had any track time as off yet). I don't have the new harness and as a result I'll be using 100 octane unleaded race fuel. I'll try and do a base run and then subsequent runs I will be running with ice in the reservoir to see how much it improves the times. That's all for now, I'm somewhat nervous but I'm hoping for no major issues. If there is any one that can make it out tomorrow and take pictures or video they are more than welcome. The track opens at 10PM until 2AM. It will be at "SPEEDWORLD" in Orlando their # is 407-568-5522. Hope to see you all there. 
10-01-2004, 04:29 PM
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you should be tapping on very low 13's, but with good conditions i can see a break into 12's. the tranny will probably not help in the 1/4 mile times, since as i remember it, it was designed for more power handling capability than performance.
i think you can break 12's if you prep it right and especially if you use slicks.
on the best run you have so far, can you describe some of the conditions (weather,wheel setup, fuel)?
i think you can break 12's if you prep it right and especially if you use slicks.
on the best run you have so far, can you describe some of the conditions (weather,wheel setup, fuel)?
10-01-2004, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by power3dfx
on the best run you have so far, can you describe some of the conditions (weather,wheel setup, fuel)?
10-01-2004, 07:15 PM
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right on man. i look forward to seeing the results.
hey Smitty, you should take your car to the strip.
hey Smitty, you should take your car to the strip.
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10-02-2004, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by mattg
hey Smitty, you should take your car to the strip.
But he says it'll ruin his car :gheylaugh:Good luck at the strip! Can't wait to see the I/C times
10-02-2004, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Chaptorial
Well its tomorrow, where are those times? 
I actually have to wait another hour and twenty minutes. The track doesn't open until 10PM.
10-02-2004, 07:44 PM
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are you gonna post times later tonight? 
10-03-2004, 03:42 AM
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Here it is 3:53 AM and the results are very disappointing to say the least. Here are the shameful times:
1st Run - Got a 15.96 @ 81.01 HOW AWFUL. The check engine light flashed and VSA light came on and it looked like Christmas on my dash. When I came back through the staging lanes I noticed I only had half of my Supercharger belt, I must off lost most of it on the track. DOUBLE WOE!!!
Thank God the guys from Speed Distributors(formerly Velocity Resources) where there and they had my new GY Gatorback belt(which I ordered in anticipation of the original not making it). BTW: Dean with his black CL-S was there but didn't run, can't say that I blame him as there must off been 250+ cars and motorcycles.
After the belt was installed I got back in the lanes again hoping that would do it.
2nd Run - Went from running in D5 to gate shifting to see if that would also improve things: 15.80 @ 89.27 HOW AWFUL AGAIN. Check engine, VSA, etc...Flashing once more. I did no more attempts as this was hopeless. The car must off been pulling timing to save its life as the car didn't seem to pull past 4000-4500 RPMs. I know that I wasn't getting enough fuel since I don't have a working harness for the E-manage so I was using the race fuel but that didn't seem to make enough difference and that stuff is expensive!!!
So all this in light that the car is running 3-4 more pounds of boost, intercooled, race fuel, brand new wider rubber up front and I went from 13.68@ 102.5 on 93 octane to this. I'm hoping that this is nothing more then an e-manage issue....Steve HELP!!!
If I get the harness in time I'll be back to the track on Wednesday night.
Sorry guys for the poor report.
1st Run - Got a 15.96 @ 81.01 HOW AWFUL. The check engine light flashed and VSA light came on and it looked like Christmas on my dash. When I came back through the staging lanes I noticed I only had half of my Supercharger belt, I must off lost most of it on the track. DOUBLE WOE!!!
Thank God the guys from Speed Distributors(formerly Velocity Resources) where there and they had my new GY Gatorback belt(which I ordered in anticipation of the original not making it). BTW: Dean with his black CL-S was there but didn't run, can't say that I blame him as there must off been 250+ cars and motorcycles.
After the belt was installed I got back in the lanes again hoping that would do it.
2nd Run - Went from running in D5 to gate shifting to see if that would also improve things: 15.80 @ 89.27 HOW AWFUL AGAIN. Check engine, VSA, etc...Flashing once more. I did no more attempts as this was hopeless. The car must off been pulling timing to save its life as the car didn't seem to pull past 4000-4500 RPMs. I know that I wasn't getting enough fuel since I don't have a working harness for the E-manage so I was using the race fuel but that didn't seem to make enough difference and that stuff is expensive!!!
So all this in light that the car is running 3-4 more pounds of boost, intercooled, race fuel, brand new wider rubber up front and I went from 13.68@ 102.5 on 93 octane to this. I'm hoping that this is nothing more then an e-manage issue....Steve HELP!!!
If I get the harness in time I'll be back to the track on Wednesday night.
Sorry guys for the poor report.
10-03-2004, 09:37 AM
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WTF
talk about bad luck. like an athlete training all year for the olympic and at the event strains a ligament and is not able to break the world record!
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talk about bad luck. like an athlete training all year for the olympic and at the event strains a ligament and is not able to break the world record!
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10-03-2004, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by CLpower
shitty, these things happen, can get frustrating, hopefully the harness will solve all issues
10-03-2004, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by darrinb
wow, i hope you solve your problems and get it running alright, u should def be in the very low 13's trapping around 107-108
, right now my car will not be "trapping" anything it's actually trapped in the garage.
10-03-2004, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by johntypes
pull random cat off lost torque ,dynoed torque drop 10# hp went up 9 car ran slower at the track did this 10/20/01 long time ago.
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10-03-2004, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by johntypes
pull random cat off lost torque ,dynoed torque drop 10# hp went up 9 car ran slower at the track did this 10/20/01 long time ago.
John
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Good luck next time, hope the problem is solved soon.
10-03-2004, 02:10 PM
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Sorry to sound like a jerk here, but shouldn't you know that the car isn't running properly? You were trapping 102.5... and you care SHOULD be quicker than that. If you are trapping 8x.x, that should be quite obvious that something is really wrong! That is a very significant disparity and it is more likely you are hurting the car when racing under these conditions. I mean... you did drive to the track, correct? If the car did nto feel good, you shouldn't have run it, just my $0.02.
Anyways, now to the problem at hand. It's either timing or fuel (or both). What was the CEL code? Check your spark plugs etc. for signs of detonation or running lean - just as a precaution. I believe Scalbert is on vacation, but I am sure he'll address your harness issue (if there is an issue) when he is back.
Edit: Okay, didn't realize you were not running the E-manage... more reason you should try to understand whar the car is trying to tell you before running it hard!
Anyways, now to the problem at hand. It's either timing or fuel (or both). What was the CEL code? Check your spark plugs etc. for signs of detonation or running lean - just as a precaution. I believe Scalbert is on vacation, but I am sure he'll address your harness issue (if there is an issue) when he is back.
Edit: Okay, didn't realize you were not running the E-manage... more reason you should try to understand whar the car is trying to tell you before running it hard!
10-03-2004, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by johntypes
pull random cat off lost torque ,dynoed torque drop 10# hp went up 9 car ran slower at the track did this 10/20/01 long time ago.
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10-03-2004, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by johntypes
pull random cat off lost torque ,dynoed torque drop 10# hp went up 9 car ran slower at the track did this 10/20/01 long time ago.
John
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he probable benefits from it since he's running FI
10-04-2004, 10:27 AM
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[QUOTE=allmotor_2000]Sorry to sound like a jerk here, but shouldn't you know that the car isn't running properly? QUOTE]
You're right. From the report that I got That higher octane gas might have compensated for the lack off fuel. The car was doing well up to 7-7 1/2 pounds on 93 so I decided to give it a try with the 100 fuel . Unfortunatly the car didn't pull it off.
I've been on the phone with Scalbert already and hopefully the fix is on the way.
You're right. From the report that I got That higher octane gas might have compensated for the lack off fuel. The car was doing well up to 7-7 1/2 pounds on 93 so I decided to give it a try with the 100 fuel . Unfortunatly the car didn't pull it off.
I've been on the phone with Scalbert already and hopefully the fix is on the way.
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