T/C'd Stang vs. S/C'd CLS 6MT

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Old 01-31-2005, 01:48 PM
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T/C'd Stang vs. S/C'd CLS 6MT

I got my ass kicked ( ) this weekend by a turbo charged late model stang, V8-auto. We had two runs, both from a standing start.

The first run he got an early jump and I got a little too much wheel spin. After shifting into 2nd I started to real him in slightly so I was trailing by 2 car lengths. When I shifted into 3rd he started to pull away. When I shifted into 4th, he blew by like I was standing still. Seems as though the T/C took time to spool up.

The second run he really wanted to rub it in. He set back about 3/4 of a car length off the line. This time I got a good launch and kept in front until the middle of 3rd gear. And again, he blew by me when I shifted into 4th gear.

Each time he backed off, I could hear that distinctive sound "sssshhhhffftttt". I was also surprise on how quiet his car was when he was on it.

This was my worst loss to date. I ran against 3 other stangs in the past. Beat two badly and had a close run with a third one which was modded but NA. He always got a better launch than I could but I was always able to reel him in and pass him at the top of 3rd gear.

I guess the HBP and I/C are sounding better to me now...
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ahh the humility.



nice deaths.
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Nice death. You have no other choice but getting HBP w/IC and run from the roll
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ahh the humility.



nice deaths.
I didn't realize that humble pie was on the menu that night. I sure didn't like the taste of it.
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Originally Posted by cls6sp03
I didn't realize that humble pie was on the menu that night. I sure didn't like the taste of it.
Old 01-31-2005, 05:59 PM
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Do they make bolt on turbo kits now for the 4.6L? Links?

I've only seen a few turbo mustangs at the track, and most are insanely quick - much faster than you desribe. I saw two from Atlanta run at our local 1/8 mile and get low 4 sec passes.
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Originally Posted by proaudio22
Do they make bolt on turbo kits now for the 4.6L? Links?

I've only seen a few turbo mustangs at the track, and most are insanely quick - much faster than you desribe. I saw two from Atlanta run at our local 1/8 mile and get low 4 sec passes.

The stang seemed to take a long time to spool up it's T/C. But once it was spooled up, the thing was a rocket...
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I guess it's possible he had no traction? If he was on street tires, even 295+ I could see a problem with real power. A Lingenfelter Twin Turbo 427 Vette is only marginally faster than the stock C5 Z06 up to 80mph b/c it can not get traction. Then it's like a rocket, bye bye birdie.
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Originally Posted by proaudio22
I guess it's possible he had no traction? If he was on street tires, even 295+ I could see a problem with real power. A Lingenfelter Twin Turbo 427 Vette is only marginally faster than the stock C5 Z06 up to 80mph b/c it can not get traction. Then it's like a rocket, bye bye birdie.
Hmmm, that sounds familiar. He was barely faster than me until I ran out of 3rd gear which was just above 80 MPH. Then he just checked out - "See Ya!!!"
Old 01-31-2005, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by cls6sp03
I guess the HBP and I/C are sounding better to me now...

Sorry about the killed... But, if you are seriously interested, Allout and I are both waiting to get 5 people interested in another run of intercooler orders. Who knows how long Scalbert will stick around and support our beloved CL's. If you're in, we only need 2 more.
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Originally Posted by Seattle Cl-S
Sorry about the killed... But, if you are seriously interested, Allout and I are both waiting to get 5 people interested in another run of intercooler orders. Who knows how long Scalbert will stick around and support our beloved CL's. If you're in, we only need 2 more.
I was mostly kidding about the I/C... I'm waiting on CT to release the ESM replacement chip (from the soon to be release '04 TL S/C kit)... Not sure I will ever do the I/C... but if I keep getting my ass whooped, I may have to reconsider...

Thanks for inviting me in though...

BTW, sounds like Scalbert wants back into the Acura family, but his appetite has grown some...
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was this a 03-04 cobra turboed by any chance? it had to have at least 200 whp more than you meaning 500+ whp for it to pull like a mad man in those higher speed gears. as mentioned before, a turbod mustang usually is special. they are rare as no one really makes a turbo kit for stangs.
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Originally Posted by power3dfx
was this a 03-04 cobra turboed by any chance? it had to have at least 200 whp more than you meaning 500+ whp for it to pull like a mad man in those higher speed gears. as mentioned before, a turbod mustang usually is special. they are rare as no one really makes a turbo kit for stangs.
I can't say for sure... could have been... but
Old 02-01-2005, 08:02 AM
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Ummm....there are lots of turbo kits for Mustangs. Not as many TC kits as SC kits, thats for sure, but they are def out there.

I'd say a tc'd 99+ GT auto with the typical bolt-ons should run 12's pretty easily, so its no surprise you lost.

I will one day save up enough $$ for a single turbo for my Mustang. Low 12's are not out of the question with serious tires and all the bolt-ons. All that without ever removing a valve cover. Do a head swap and 10's are not uncommon.

FI + V8 = you better be AllMotor

http://www.turbomustangs.com/index2.htm
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Nice death no shame in losing to a big turbo stang.
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Nice death.

Start with the HBP and try him again from a roll.
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Actually, I think cls6sp03 has the advantage going from a dig since the stang doesnt pull away until 80mph+. Going from a roll may give the stang more traction.

Nice killed...I know how humble pie tastes too
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go for the hbp and the intercooler!!!
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Originally Posted by proaudio22
I guess it's possible he had no traction? If he was on street tires, even 295+ I could see a problem with real power. A Lingenfelter Twin Turbo 427 Vette is only marginally faster than the stock C5 Z06 up to 80mph b/c it can not get traction. Then it's like a rocket, bye bye birdie.
Very true the lingenfelter can't get traction, my old man owns a 2003 427TT, he won't let me even come close to driving it mumbling something about i'll kill myself. But we took it for a fast shot down an open road over here, it almost feels like the ass end of the car is on ice through most of the gears just a nice back and forth swaying motion, but it still manages to implant your ass into the seat permenantly. It also had the lovely tune of a jet taking off. Adjustable boost and claims that it can hit 8.9 1/4 now aren't even close to possible with the tires that are on it. I wish so bad i could drive it, someone convince him PLZ!!!!!! *puppy dog eyes*
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Nice, death. Not to many cars can even compete with a T/C V8 Mustang. Heck, Turbo'd V6's have been known to run mid-high 11's. Displacement + Big turbo = Lots of torque. The reason why you didn't catch him in the begining was mabye because he didn't have traction due to wheels spin, or he didn't have the proper gears. Our stangs come with crappy gears to compensate for the gas guzzling engine. Gears make the car rev faster thus getting into his powerband quicker. If tuned right those old gt's could handle 400+rwhp easy, so you didn't do so bad after all
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Originally Posted by power3dfx
was this a 03-04 cobra turboed by any chance? it had to have at least 200 whp more than you meaning 500+ whp for it to pull like a mad man in those higher speed gears. as mentioned before, a turbod mustang usually is special. they are rare as no one really makes a turbo kit for stangs.
LMFAO. Your last statement was very funny and very wrong. There are quite a few more turbo kits for stangs than there are for the CLS/TLS.....and they are far from uncommon or rare. A tc late model stang would easily have over 500rwhp (and more than 600rwtrq)........which wouldn't necessarily be what he needed to pull on cls6sp03.....400 would be enough.
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Originally Posted by fiveoh-tl
LMFAO. Your last statement was very funny and very wrong. There are quite a few more turbo kits for stangs than there are for the CLS/TLS.....and they are far from uncommon or rare. A tc late model stang would easily have over 500rwhp (and more than 600rwtrq)........which wouldn't necessarily be what he needed to pull on cls6sp03.....400 would be enough.
I think it also depends on where you live...i havent run into many stangs with FI here in cali, but many more imports with mods.
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Originally Posted by ronnie0738
I think it also depends on where you live...i havent run into many stangs with FI here in cali, but many more imports with mods.
Maybe as far as how many turbo stangs you'd see...........but anyone w/ a computer or a magazine can order 1 of the many kits available (that doesn't change w/ demographics).
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