Sumi's or Yokos????
11-18-2002, 12:27 PM
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Sumi's or Yokos????
Stock tires are getting bad. I have had experience with the Yokohamas in the past, never tried Sumitomos. I am not a racing kind of guy, and the car is a lease, so I want it to remain as stock as possible. My high points are road noise and ride comfort, here are my choices:
Yokohama Avid T4, 215/50 - 17, TR
Sumitomo HTR+, 215/50 - 17, WR
Does anybody have these tires on thier CL? If so, which do you like? The Sumis are rated a bid higher than the Yokos, even in the cornering/handling areas, but I have never had Sumi's.
Yokohama Avid T4, 215/50 - 17, TR
Sumitomo HTR+, 215/50 - 17, WR
Does anybody have these tires on thier CL? If so, which do you like? The Sumis are rated a bid higher than the Yokos, even in the cornering/handling areas, but I have never had Sumi's.
11-18-2002, 12:33 PM
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I bought the sumos+ about 2 months ago. They are great and far above the original michelins in every area. Cheap at tirerack.com --$89. I got mine at Sears and they matched that price. Highy recommended. Do a search--there are several members who bought the sumos.
11-18-2002, 01:11 PM
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on a 10 point scale, considering everything, including price, i would give the htr's a 9+. i would give the stocks a 6. after 3000 miles i am totally happy with them. sears was happy to match tirerack's price.
11-18-2002, 03:21 PM
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I've got the Sumotimos on my car, at about 6K later, they still handle and look great (they took some getting used to because they are a little more "round" than the original Michelins so they looked smaller). I have noticed that when I do a little "hard cornering", they will squeel a little bit but still hold the road very well.
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11-18-2002, 03:57 PM
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Thanks guys for the inputs, Sumis look real good, then the added Yokos seem to be top notch. Remember though, I want that (don't laugh) luxury car feel, quiet, smooth, with a touch of sportiness.
The Yoko AVS seem to be Ultra high performance, that may a little too much for me, sidewall may be that of a Z rated tire, way too choopy, plenty of performance though. Silverknight, I noticed you got 235/45's, can you do that on the stock wheels? If so, that is less sidewall right? Does that make for choppier ride? Thanks
The Yoko AVS seem to be Ultra high performance, that may a little too much for me, sidewall may be that of a Z rated tire, way too choopy, plenty of performance though. Silverknight, I noticed you got 235/45's, can you do that on the stock wheels? If so, that is less sidewall right? Does that make for choppier ride? Thanks
11-18-2002, 04:08 PM
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Originally posted by Black CL-S 4-Life
Go with Yoko AVS ES100s for $105 a tire on tirerack. I give them a perfect 10.
Go with Yoko AVS ES100s for $105 a tire on tirerack. I give them a perfect 10.
11-18-2002, 05:00 PM
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I am also debating between the two for size 225/45/17.
Have anyone bought their tires at dicount tire direct? Right now they are selling the yoko avs es100s for $114 each but with NO s/h. The total would be $456.
Meanwhile tirerack has them for $105 for each tire but the s/h is ~$60 which will come out to ~$480.
So what place is better: discount tire direct or tirerack?
Have anyone bought their tires at dicount tire direct? Right now they are selling the yoko avs es100s for $114 each but with NO s/h. The total would be $456.
Meanwhile tirerack has them for $105 for each tire but the s/h is ~$60 which will come out to ~$480.
So what place is better: discount tire direct or tirerack?
11-18-2002, 06:43 PM
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Tirerack charged me only $34.xx for 2 day shipping.
chatapuggy1,
the 235/45/17s fit fine on stock wheel. If you order from tirerack.com, they will call you to make sure you mean to order this size. A little less side wall but the ride was at least as good as stock if not smoother. Those are really great tires. Quiet, smooth, sticky, rim protect lips and sporty look. My car looks completely different with those tires on. I heard the only down side is the thread life due to the soft rubber.
chatapuggy1,
the 235/45/17s fit fine on stock wheel. If you order from tirerack.com, they will call you to make sure you mean to order this size. A little less side wall but the ride was at least as good as stock if not smoother. Those are really great tires. Quiet, smooth, sticky, rim protect lips and sporty look. My car looks completely different with those tires on. I heard the only down side is the thread life due to the soft rubber.
11-18-2002, 06:58 PM
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i just ordered the sumi's!!! Will have them on on thursday!
they have a 40000 mile warranty. NTB price matched tirerack. I got the 225/45/17's. Warrantied for 40,000. 99 bucks a tire.
Read about them at Tirerack. Great reviews.
they have a 40000 mile warranty. NTB price matched tirerack. I got the 225/45/17's. Warrantied for 40,000. 99 bucks a tire.
Read about them at Tirerack. Great reviews.
11-18-2002, 08:18 PM
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Originally posted by SilverKnight
Tirerack charged me only $34.xx for 2 day shipping.
chatapuggy1,
the 235/45/17s fit fine on stock wheel. If you order from tirerack.com, they will call you to make sure you mean to order this size. A little less side wall but the ride was at least as good as stock if not smoother. Those are really great tires. Quiet, smooth, sticky, rim protect lips and sporty look. My car looks completely different with those tires on. I heard the only down side is the thread life due to the soft rubber.
Tirerack charged me only $34.xx for 2 day shipping.
chatapuggy1,
the 235/45/17s fit fine on stock wheel. If you order from tirerack.com, they will call you to make sure you mean to order this size. A little less side wall but the ride was at least as good as stock if not smoother. Those are really great tires. Quiet, smooth, sticky, rim protect lips and sporty look. My car looks completely different with those tires on. I heard the only down side is the thread life due to the soft rubber.
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Originally posted by Maximized
I just bought the AVS ES100's in 245/40/17. They seem to be a real sticky tire. How are they in the rain???
I just bought the AVS ES100's in 245/40/17. They seem to be a real sticky tire. How are they in the rain???
btw i have 225/40/18
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Originally posted by Maximized
I just bought the AVS ES100's in 245/40/17. They seem to be a real sticky tire. How are they in the rain???
I just bought the AVS ES100's in 245/40/17. They seem to be a real sticky tire. How are they in the rain???
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