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Old 03-23-2003, 08:35 AM
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Well needless to say, last night was eventful. I was just curious if anyone knew about the laws of street racing. I know that some people got arrested, like one guy that i ran during the night and several others who raced also, but i know of 6 others who "got away" from the scene and so far havent been arrested. What can they do from here, i guess what im looking for is can this come back to bite me in the ass, or is it an "at the scene" type of thing? Any help would be appreciated.

oh yeah, supposedly they had license plate numbers and a video...not sure about the video yet
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Re: Street racing laws

Originally posted by Zootking
Well needless to say, last night was eventful. I was just curious if anyone knew about the laws of street racing. I know that some people got arrested, like one guy that i ran during the night and several others who raced also, but i know of 6 others who "got away" from the scene and so far havent been arrested. What can they do from here, i guess what im looking for is can this come back to bite me in the ass, or is it an "at the scene" type of thing? Any help would be appreciated.

oh yeah, supposedly they had license plate numbers and a video...not sure about the video yet
I, for one, hope that they can get those who "got away". Street racing has got to be one of the stupidest things "kids" (of many ages) are doing now-adays. Time to grow up!!
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Re: Re: Street racing laws

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I, for one, hope that they can get those who "got away". Street racing has got to be one of the stupidest things "kids" (of many ages) are doing now-adays. Time to grow up!!
ya what ever...it's brand new they've only been street racing since the movie " the fast and the furious" before that it never happened....id say if they didnt get you at the scene then you should be ok...having your plate doesnt mean you were driving...
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my friend got a 6 point ticket for drag racing, but i think he got it down to 1 point in court w/ a good ass lawyer
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Didn't you let your friend borrow your car lastnight? I hope he wasn't out doing anything crazy like.....street racing!

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down here they have fucked up laws. Just for being there watching now they can impound your car for a year and you can get up to like 1000 hours of community service and on top of that the fines come in. That's just for WATCHING!
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Re: Re: Street racing laws

Originally posted by CO-CL-S
I, for one, hope that they can get those who "got away". Street racing has got to be one of the stupidest things "kids" (of many ages) are doing now-adays. Time to grow up!!
yea but it's been a past time that's been around since the 1950's that'd be like taking away baseball

But I'll agree w/ you, over the last few years the scene has really gone down to shit, alot of very irresponsible unexperienced people who bring alot more danger to the game.
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and it CAN come and bite you in the ass, but it's hard to say if it will. We've had cops out here use news coverage to track down racers.
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the guys on that TLC documentary of street racing a few years back got arrested when the channel aired it and the kid eugene on the mtv true life got arrested after that show was aired, but that was because they had proof of him driving on a suspended license. so if they have you on video racing maybe they can use that, but most likely they wont go through the trouble of finding you.

and i agree ghander, street racing hasnt been an overnight happening, but since its getting all this publicity more people are becoming more aware of it. even my grandfather has told me stories of how he used to race people on his motorcycle back in the day.
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Originally posted by ghander
down here they have fucked up laws. Just for being there watching now they can impound your car for a year and you can get up to like 1000 hours of community service and on top of that the fines come in. That's just for WATCHING!

dont think u mentioned this but...the new law in CA will impound BOTH vehicles and AUCTION them away....they WILL NOT BE RETURNED TO THE OWNERS...not to mention a hefty fine
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Originally posted by mr. big
dont think u mentioned this but...the new law in CA will impound BOTH vehicles and AUCTION them away....they WILL NOT BE RETURNED TO THE OWNERS...not to mention a hefty fine
Wait...

I can see how they'd impound the car for something as stupid as street racing, but what gives them the right to sell it at an auction??? Maybe I'm missing something here, but if I OWN my car (have the title), how could they sell it at an auction?

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it can come back and bite you in the ass because it's a traffic crime/violation.

if you were a hit and run driver, and someone got your license plate, and you get away, and the police show up at your door, you can't tell them that it is "after the event" so they can't arrest/fine you.

The only difference here though is that unless there was an accident or loss or something, it wouldn't really be worth their time to go arrest people after the event. The raids are more of a deterrent than to arrest/fine people for damage/property loss.
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I hope they catch ALL the violators and auction off ALL the cars.
That’s the only way to teach the idiot street racers a lesson.

Actually a better punishment would be to CRUSH the cars.
And for the ultimate payback, make the owner throw the switch and watch the destruction.

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Here's a crazy thought... maybe it's just way out there and all but ---- don't street race.

Take it to the track. Then you won't have to worry about getting your ass thrown in jail because of racing.
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Originally posted by Scrib
Wait...

I can see how they'd impound the car for something as stupid as street racing, but what gives them the right to sell it at an auction??? Maybe I'm missing something here, but if I OWN my car (have the title), how could they sell it at an auction?

When you break the law, you loose many of your rights.
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Come on, you mean to tell me you've never tried to beat someone off the line, or pull on some one on the fway, even a little, never? I'm not saying it's right and not dangerous, but come on, really, you never have?
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Come on, you mean to tell me you've never tried to beat someone off the line, or pull on some one on the fway, even a little, never? I'm not saying it's right and not dangerous, but come on, really, you never have?
I don't wanna flame too much, but racing on the streets and highways is not the brightest thing in the world. I would imagine most of us have f*cked around with our cars on the streets and highways. However, since I've discovered the track, I don't mess with it anymore. Sure, I'll run someone from a light for a short distance, but only if certain conditions exist. It just isn't worth the risk to me.
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yeah i'm gonna represent the stupid kids here being one of them. I've never personally closed off a road/highway to street race and i never will cuz thats stupid, but i doubt anyone on this forum can say that they've never been at a light or on the highway and had someone next to them that wanted to race and they didn't. Dont go pointing fingers especially at young kids. Yeah you get the retards that ruin it for everyone, but thats what happens. Like ghander said its been going on since the 50's. Dont blame all kids just because you get a few morons that drive out of control and kill themselves and others. personally i'd rather race at the track cuz its safe and legal, but sometimes you and a friend are fuckin around on a 2 lane road. Just my opinion
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Originally posted by Shawn S
I hope they catch ALL the violators and auction off ALL the cars.
That?s the only way to teach the idiot street racers a lesson.

Actually a better punishment would be to CRUSH the cars.
And for the ultimate payback, make the owner throw the switch and watch the destruction.

Shawn S
And I hope that what ever illegal things you are doing that they catch you and throw the book at you too. :P

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Re: Re: Street racing laws

Originally posted by CO-CL-S
I, for one, hope that they can get those who "got away". Street racing has got to be one of the stupidest things "kids" (of many ages) are doing now-adays. Time to grow up!!
And I hope you quit whatever vices you have.

Smoking
Drinking
Gambling
Porn
Tax Cheating
or anything else immoral or illegal.
etc etc . .

We know you have one so fess up. :P

It's time for hypocrits to fess up or shut up.

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Originally posted by Scrib
Wait...

I can see how they'd impound the car for something as stupid as street racing, but what gives them the right to sell it at an auction??? Maybe I'm missing something here, but if I OWN my car (have the title), how could they sell it at an auction?

Its the law, and its fucked up...just be glad ur not living here in CA, and if u are planning to, dont get caught racing...my buddy was following me and were both speeding, and got pulled over at the same time...the officerette tried to get us for racing, but since he was behind me, she had a weak case....so close....whew!!
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Re: Re: Re: Street racing laws

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And I hope you quit whatever vices you have.

Smoking
Drinking
Gambling
Porn
Tax Cheating
or anything else immoral or illegal.
etc etc . .

We know you have one so fess up. :P

It's time for hypocrits to fess up or shut up.

Ruf
you are RIGHT!!! but there aint nothing wrong with tax cheating!! everyone does it...and if u are sweedish, u know what i mean...you guys are the biggest cheats its not even funny...professional....its like our moral right to defend our assests from uncle sam
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Originally posted by EdgarFanCLS
Here's a crazy thought... maybe it's just way out there and all but ---- don't street race.

Take it to the track. Then you won't have to worry about getting your ass thrown in jail because of racing.
Here's some more ideas of what not to do when driving.

Drive with cars that don't meet manufacturer specs. For example:
worn tires
worn brakes
worn suspension
worn belts and hoses
any poorly maintained vehical
no modified vehicals that effect the safety directly or indirectly

Don't do anything that will rake your eye or focus off of driving such as:
drinking of anything
no eating
no cell phones
no reading
no shaving
no applying of make-up
no getting dressed
no no no

Also - no more
tailgating
running red lights
driving over the speed limit
driving in the left lane when not passing
driving without seat belts
changing lanes without proper signal use
etc etc . . .

All these things are stupid and irresponsible as they impact the safety of others and or cause us all financial liabilities due to insurance claims.

So if you are not a 100% perfect driver in every aspect all the time then you are a hypocrit.

By the way, there are none so you are one. :P


Ruf
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yea since the street scene here is really weak everyone seems to be taking it to the track anyway, seems like going to the track is the smart/legal way to go not mention there are a lot less excuses and bench racing at the track
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I've been to the track...and I hate it. First off where I go, you pay $20 to get in a random line and race a random person for all of 15 secs or whatever and thats it. How lame is that? haha...it's kinda funny, on the way home..I raced more than I did there, and it didn't cost me a dime. I think I'll stay on the streets. (and I don't mean blocking off an entire street either.)
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where i go its 40$ and you race as many times as you can go, i've gone 13 times in a day
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Originally posted by I am RobG
where i go its 40$ and you race as many times as you can go, i've gone 13 times in a day
$40 + the cost of gas..which nowadays is exceptionally high...i bet the tracks are pretty empty by now


BTW, i just dont understand y people are still driving all fast and crazy on highways and local st. I mean, maybe they got too much $$ to spend....Lookin at the current situation, driving conservatively would be most cost-effective, not to mention safe!
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Just some info from us "stupid" people. We for one dont block off a street....everytime ive been, its been in a vacant business park lot, where there is no traffic except for those coming to run....and for starters, most of the time its people that are over 21yrs old...for car enthusiasts, it just doesnt get old, no matter how old you are...and as for the track, yes it is the "legal" way to go, but for some people its more of a rush to do it on the street....and like someone said, usually you are paired with some stranger, when you came to run a specific person...im all for the track now that this shit has happened, but the street racing scene will never die, just fade and bounce back.....
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Here's the law for MA peeps:

Chapter 90: Section 17B. Drag racing; penalties.

Section 17B. No person shall operate a motor vehicle, nor shall any owner of such vehicle permit it to be operated, in a manner where the owner or operator accelerates at a high rate of speed in competition with another operator, whether or not there is an agreement to race, causing increased noise from skidding tires and amplified noise from racing engines. Whoever violates the provisions of this section shall be punished by a fine of not less than one hundred nor more than five hundred dollars and the registrar shall suspend such operator's license for a period of not less than thirty days. A subsequent violation shall be punished by a fine of not less than two hundred nor more than one thousand dollars and a suspension of such license for a period of not less than sixty days.
Although that chapter and section doesn't mention it, if the officer deems the racing to be a "breech of the peace in his presence" or disorderly conduct, both operators can also be arrested for it. Also notice it says operator *or* owner, so if your car is listed in, say, your parents' name *they* could be the one getting the fine and their license suspended as well as the operator.
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i got caught racing a couple monts ago and the cop gave me a reckless for racing on the highway, which is 6 points, i went to court and i had them reduce to improper driving which is 3 points, so all in all it wasnt that bad, to the cop i say :P
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Re: Street racing laws

Originally posted by Zootking
Well needless to say, last night was eventful. I was just curious if anyone knew about the laws of street racing. I know that some people got arrested, like one guy that i ran during the night and several others who raced also, but i know of 6 others who "got away" from the scene and so far havent been arrested. What can they do from here, i guess what im looking for is can this come back to bite me in the ass, or is it an "at the scene" type of thing? Any help would be appreciated.

oh yeah, supposedly they had license plate numbers and a video...not sure about the video yet
My friend told me the guy that races here in NY , got this viper taken away. It is a nice shinny cop car. LOL
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While you're racing on the street or the track be very careful because if you have an accident your insurance will not cover you. Racing and speed contest are excluded from your policy. So don't hit anyone or anything cause it will cost you more than just a few points.
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Down here in FL they are hard core about the street racing as it is a big thing in certain areas. Pretty much kiss your license good-bye for a year, plus fines, court costs and impound fees. This is in addition to any charges for reckless or careless driving as well.
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In Stockton they had a big sting where they monitored people while undercover for a month or so, then all of sudden they went to everyone they had on film..house and took their car and did a complete inspection. Some witness mentioned that when they went outside the next morning, their car was gone.

They did some props to the racers 'no drugs, no alchol, no records...just illegal street racing'

Stockton PD don't mess around I guess...
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Re: Re: Re: Street racing laws

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ya what ever...it's brand new they've only been street racing since the movie " the fast and the furious" before that it never happened....id say if they didnt get you at the scene then you should be ok...having your plate doesnt mean you were driving...
What are you talking about??!!

We started street racing down in Ontario (so cal) and Ana street (comptom) back in 1992-1993. This was about the first time imports would gather and street-race. We could run for 5-6 hours and there would be no cops... 500-600 cars!! Over time this evolved to many locations and several cities crack down on this quite hard. Personally I street-raced from 1993 to probably 1997 VERY regularly (4-5 nights a week). Street-racing has hence moved all over the US and probably Canada as well... its a culture. I can say that nearly ALL of the famous import drivers (starting from Pappadakis downwards) started by street-racing. Some of the newer guys were probably 13 and hence didn't have a driver's license at the time

Anyways... I don't condone street-racing... but under a semi-controlled atmosphere.. as it was 9-10 years ago, it was fun!

In terms of tickets. Basically they can get you for the following:

23109(A) VC - Engaging in speed contest
23109(C) VC - Adiign and abetting in speed contest (cheering, flagging etc.)
23109(D) VC - Exhibition of speed (burning out etc.)

Reckless driving can also be given... if the cop feels like it. All of the above are misdemeanor charges that carry 2 points each. Usually the officer will ticket you for 23109(A), reckless dirving.. some other minor traffic offense, a bunch of fix-its... 5-6 points easy.

They video-tape and arrest after-the-fact. In the old days if was primarily to check for stolen motors (integra b18C'smostly). Now I doubt they will come to your house... but it has happened.
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