jimcol711

what the hell is this....fantasy??


http://www.is300.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13322748

Bluto

The guy with the 2jzgte? Isn't that a Supra Turbo motor?

jimcol711

my bad....his post says he is "pretty much stock" if hes got a supra motor then its definately beleiveable...but otherwise...no way

jimcol711

theres another thread over there about a turbo IS killing a lamborghini diablo...guy claims he pulled hard all the way up to 140 mph

Collective27

LOL, they are rediculous over there.

jimcol711

heres the link to the is300 beating the lambo....


http://www.is300.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13302600

Crazy Bimmer

Jim, let it go... the is300 wont hurt you.

jimcol711

hahaha, im not really worried about is300's....there really arent any around here, my parents neighbor has one and hes always drooling over my CL-S...none of the local is300 people have mods...at least nothing major anyways, i tried to get an IS300 around here to race me (the guy had stickers all over it, white wheels and a fart can) and he wouldnt even look over at me to acknowledge my challenge to him....whatever, i jsut think its funny how they claim these cars can beat lamborghinis now...

Zootking

Yeah I wouldnt be too worried about one unless it has the turbo upgrade....i ran across one a few nights ago w/neons underneath it and it had to have been spraying cause he took off on me, but by 80 he was toast....and I wasnt even spraying...after he got his 1 1/2 car jump and i passed him, he wouldnt do anything else....oh well i guess he shouldve turned off his neons

chikai

wow...what a rice racer:

scalbert

I beleive he made a small mistake, if his wastegate opened then the exhaust flow would bypass the turbine and lower or eliminate the boost.

Chaptorial

I like how all the Audi trolls are coming over to start shit over there.

With the stuff he's done to his IS, is a Lambo kill really possible??

ItalianStallion

the IS motor is the supra motor. 3 litre inline six.

thats why they also are incredibly versatile in the mods market cause the massive turbos that can make supras beasts could also make the IS a beast.

i couldnt see a turbo'd is keepin up with a lambo, plus i couldnt see the planets alining like that, perfect senario, i have a rare turbo'd IS and i know how to drive my manual real well, and i come to a light next to an incredibly rare Lambo with an owner who knows how to drive just as well and would risk his sweet ride to prove to an IS that he's faster, SURE

i dont buy it. those guys seem full of shit to me.

AcurajL

There are plenty of IS300 with turbos in Florida as my roomate has an IS300 and has meant many who have turbos or are in the process of getting one. His IS300 is very competitive to my CL-S

benzo555

I have driven a Supra TT. My friend has one with stock twins pushing 21 psi and runs 12.5 on the quarter on street tires. And he has pushed it a little past 160mph. Scary as hell.. but the car handles like a dream. Not sure if the IS can go that high mph, but if it has the TT motor it will definately go that fast.

s0yb0mb

IS300GTE's car has a 2jzgte motor with a 6 spd tranny swap. It is far from stock and he just posted in that manner to fool people.

Wxman's car is turbo'd and is putting about ~400 hp to the ground. The lambo race was a driver's race, notice the lambo driver had a young girl as a passenger. He probably did not want to go all out.

That is all.

Water-S

maybe he beat a the camero. but if he swapped a supra turbo motor in he probably did beat a lambo and camero
but if he just got the factory IS300 motor with a turbo nope it isn't happening

ItalianStallion

im telling you guys, its the same motor as the supra! not the TT supra but the base model. the TT motor is exactly the same as the IS motor except for the turbos. thats why they can get such gigantic power numbers and have a plethera of potent turbos to choose from.

its the same motor, you dont need to swap anything, just installing a twin turbo kit is all it takes.

benzo555

Water-S Dont underestimate those little cars. Those IS are not much bigger than my integra sedan. They are not that heavy. With the right combo and turbo, it can be made to handle as a beast! You have to be a little more open minded. No matter what, all it takes is $$$$$.

haiduc

you are definately mistaken on that note. the 2JZGE and the 2JZGTE are of the same displacement and workings, but the compression on the motors and the way the internals are built is not the same thing.

if you try to twin turbo a 2JZGE and crank the boost, you will blow the bottom. it's not as strong as the supra motor. sure you can turbo it, but dont expect to make the same ammount of power from it.

ItalianStallion

ok thanks, i guess i was wrong there.

still tho, isnt there a guy in Miami with a turbo'd IS (2JZGE engine i believe) thats running 600hp and 550+tq? that pretty friggin rediculous. i guess the difference in power youre referring to is that a Supra can be 1000+hp (from what i hear) with the right turbo other mods and an IS can be 600+hp with the right mods/turbo combination.

anyways, my mistake.

o snap its eric

is300 can suck my dick... there is this one dude on in my school.... never goto class but instead driving his friend all around school in his gay IS! i wanna beat his ass

1SICKLEX

U live in San Fran and have the nuts to call someone gay. U my friend are GAY!!!

TheModMole

I also have a Lex GS300 and i have a pretty good idea about the 2 everyones talking about...

The major differeneces between the two motors being compared are as follows:

2JZGE head is the same on the intake side as the 2JZGTE.

Valves are 33.6 mm intake and 29 mm exhaust, 6 mm stem diam and are the same as a 2JZGTE.

Major differences in the exhaust side. Diff exhaust flnge pattern, 2JZGTE ports are smaller, port direction out of head is different ( GE straight out, but GTE has exhaust ports arranged like so - 1 & 3 point to 2 and 4 & 6 point to 5).

Valve spring height is 44mm, seated height is 34mm and binds at 9 mm lift(!)- std cam lift is 8.4 mm. Bucket diameter is 31mm, shim diameter is 28 mm.

The cam specs for both the std 2JZGE and GTE are almost identical as well.

IBP300

Just a quick link for you guys to look at
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/show...threadid=65007
isman's car was 463hp at 18 psi and could have gone more than that. Another link to check out for a 587hp IS300 is here
http://is300.net/forum/viewtopic.php...&highlight=pfs
Those are only a couple. There are many more pushing high hp #'s so don't be so quick to doubt the IS!!

Red Nj-s

camaro:P

mattg

can you plz stay in the 1st gen forum?


kthnxbye.

nvpscore

Can someone in the bay area beat the shit out of this guy?

maybe aztecrol, red rider, i dunno just get a meet up, and when he comes, beat the shit outta o snap its eric

Just my feelin

Nick

TheModMole

bwwwahahahahahahahhahaha

IS300GTE

thats my car, and my kill, i raped that camaro and it isn't bs. if you hang out on .net at all you will find that i'm not one to bullshit

just as it is probably faster than most CL's on the planet. the stock comment was sarcastic, it has the supra drivetrain, a big single turbo and boost, but guess what, i weigh about 200 pounds less than a supra.

anyways, thanks s0y!

-gte

IS300GTE

the rods and crank are the same in between the GE motor and the GTE motor, the GE motor lacks the lower compression and semi forged pistons from the GTE, as well as the oil squirters and some very minute other things. aside from that, a built GE is just as strong as a GTE and has just as much potential

you won't "blow the bottom end" of a GE, with just a spacer headgasket to lower compression, it will reliably hold 550rwhp

-gte

haiduc

i know you wont blow it... i was kinda throwing the word around.

but, you still couldnt make the power out of it that you could if you had the gte. am i correct? (leaving everything the same and adding twins)

haiduc

p.s. how much did it run you if i can ask..

IS300GTE

the GTE has a superior head, cam profile and intake manifold design (from the factory) and when comparing 92 to 97 GEs to GTEs, the GTE has DIS, while the GE had a distributor. from 98 and on up, the GE now has DIS. the reason this was a box up, was 1) the distributor was in the way of the turbo, or at least for larger ones, and 2) its a distributor, which belongs on an american V8. of course, if you port the head, put in better cams, and put on a custom intake manifold, the motor is going to be as good (or very very close) as the GTE is. is an unbelievable motor.

why did i swap? i wanted the cam/head/intake manifold
i wanted the turbo options
i wanted to run a stock bottom end into quadruple flywheel power figures (when i decide to upgrade my currently large turbo and deal with the lag)
i wanted the GTE ecu, which is as overbuilt as the motor, its really a large reason why supras can make so much power as well

as for cost, i spent a lot, more than i thought i would or should have to, but you have to pay to play, right?

if you are from rockville, you might see me around

-gte

ps - i'm not a hater in case anyone is wondering, the only thing i don't like about the cls is the fwd

haiduc

well.... whenever you are around, i'd love to drool over the car for a little and shoot the shit.


p.s. i dont think anyone likes fwd.

DISRUPTV

UNFORTUNATELY, Acura does :angry:

haiduc

yah.... u got a point there.

JRock

2JZ-GE - N/A engine found in non-turbo Supra, SC300 (?), and IS300.
2JZ-GTE - strengthened built-for-turbo engine found in Supra TT (and I think SC400, but not sure).

Also one of my techs has an 11-second '91 Mustang (10s on slicks, etc). Thing sounds wicked. 302 with massive upgraded Vortech blower. He brought it to work today because he had to put solid motor mounts on it after breaking one of his Ford Performance ones.

Great part is it looks so hot from the outside and it's mostly stock with a Saleen suspension and old Cobra rims, etc, that look really nice.

IS300GTE

to keep things accurate ....


the 2jzge is found in the supra, sc300, gs300 and is300

the 2jzgte is only found in the supra

the 1uzfe is found in the ls400 and gs400 and sc400

the 2uzfe is found in the land cruiser, sequoia and tundra

the 3uzfe is found in the ls430, gs430 and sc430

the 1mzfe is found in the es300(94+), rx300, camry, sienna, camry solara and avalon

this of course is USDM stock vehicles only

-gte

scalbert

I liken the GTE, Toyota 3.0L I6 turbo, motor of the 90's to being the equivalent to the 3.8L GM V6 turbo of the 80's in the GN/TTA. Both are stout and can take much more than intended!!!

Nice choice on transplants and I understand how the costs ran over, they normally do when you are at the fore front. Turning The IS into a I6 turbo is beautiful and does wonders for the image. It also makes it a very stealthy vehicle. I do hope the GN motto of go fast with class is up held in this modern passenger vehicle rendition.

About the FWD aspect, it is less of an issue for a daily driver than touted. On the highway it is of no issue. Up to 70% - 80% limit on enthusiastic driving it is not an issue. After that is does have a hindrance. However, many of us have two or more cars and utilize the other RWD vehicle for the 5% we need it.

For the time a moderate RWD vehicle is in the shop being made to go fast there are many FWD vehicle taking people to work and doing it at a decent rate.

Point being and IMO, the FWD versus RWD debate is overrated. 95% of the people who drive a RWD will never take their car to a point to where RWD becomes an advantage. If we talk about track racing then there are other issues that come into play but are relevant to another thread.