F23A4

The 330ci 5sp model CAN run very low 14s. So dont let the 225HP/214TQ crank numbers fool you. Perspective, they're about as quick as the E36 M3.

As for the automatic, a couple of car rags posted upper 14s with it and we KNOW they cant drive for crap.

Peace.

mr. big

it is an auto tiptronic....so i dont kno if there will be a big difference as compared to the manual....I dont think auto vs. manual makes that large of a difference....maybe a 1/10 of a sec...what do u think?

mr. big

well, i live in downtown LA...so a manual, as much as i like it, would be a bitch for me since rush hour traffic is sooooobad....for example, it takes me sometimes up to an hour to go 5 miles....I couldnt handle that agony of shifting every sec....u kno what mean...if i lived in the suburbs, then for sure manual....sometimes we gotta be rationale...a manual would not be very convienient for me....so inconclusion, i feel that an auto is worth it for me...plus i had to pay an extra 2k for it....i mean, u get the best of both worlds, kinda with that ss mode.

joeandcarol2

When a manufacturer quotes a curb weight, its generally the base model. The published curb weight for the G35 for instance is for the base model with no power seats, no sunroof, 16 inch wheels etc. When you add all those things I'm sure the weight is easily 150 pounds more. And then guess what? The typical G35 is about the same weight as the CL-S 6 speed (whose curb weight includes all those CL standard items.

Crazy Bimmer

modded 330s autos only run about low 15s. So there is a huge difference.

You will win against an auto.

lou_RENAMED

so that settles it....the CL-S is the FASTEST FWD automatic STOCK car in the WORLD. we just made history guys congratulations and we're backed with a 7 yr. 100k mile warranty on our trannys. Does life get any better.

Crazy Bimmer

How about the neon?

F23A4

Maybe he means without counting the Neon SRT4.

lou_RENAMED

OK let me re-phrase that the ACURA CL-S is the fastest, naturally aspirated, FWD, automatic trannsmission, stock car for 2001,2002,2003 in the whole wide world we are still part of history

OK maybe not the world but maybe in America

and Im out

Nashua_Night_Hawk

MAybe the Maxima is very close... to that title.

lou_RENAMED

Never even with a bigger engine and like 200 lbs. lighter. Tiptronic rules just kidding the're fast cars too

Ant7701

Fuck the G35 , fuck the Maxima , fuck the WRX , the 330ci and especially the altima . What are you kiddin . How the hell do you drive if you lose to an altima or 330ci . I smoke them all day long with an 01 CL-S , with nothing more than an Aem cai and mufflers . Maybe you should actually floor the pedal when you race . You would be pretty surprised on how fast your car is .

mr. big

i kno its kinda off topic, but since u mentioned trannys, does lowering of the car void tranny warrantee?...i mean, will they say some shit like, lowered cars put more stress on the transmission or some bull like that??

mr. big

question for u...say if on the 330 auto, u put it into SS mode...isnt that essentially the same??..i mean, u can shift it whenever u want...and keep the rpms at redline as well...ur saying that the 330 stick runs about 1 sec. faster than auto...and thats alot bro

F23A4

Two questions:

1) Which part of NY are you in?
2) Do you plan on going to Etown during 2003?

If you answer 'yes' to #2 let me know when.

Peace.

torqueaholic

do you have an acura/honda? if no then hope U know that this makes you a TROLL. here's a forum to redirect you--> www.freshalloy.com

OUTRAGEOUS CL TYPE S

i dont know about the g35, in the new motor trend, 0-60 and quater mile cls had an advantage over the coupe.

Crazy Bimmer

SS isnt that same as a manual. I beileve the gearing is completely different. Not sure if thats 100% true, but i know SS automatics arent the same as manuals. Manual versions have always been faster.

I driven both, and automatics even in the SS mode on BMWs arent nearly as fast as the manuals are. Even magazines have proven this with their times... always the manual is much faster.

F23A4

Note the handle---F23A4
Note the meaning---motor for my 99 Honda Accord

There's a forum I should redirect you to but I'm a better person than that.

Peace...or whatever...

scalbert

All the SS mode does is allows you to control when the shift control solenoids operate. This is the exact same thing as older electronically controlled automatics just without the extra inputs to the PCM to let it know when you want to change gears. It also has a fluid coupling, the torque converter, with no direct connection to the output shaft (excluding the TC lockup at cruise).

Also, as mentioned, the automatics normally have less aggressive gearing.

Due to the fluid coupling and normally more complex design, the auto looses more power through it than a similar manual. Combine this with the less aggressive gearing and there is noticeably less power being put to the ground at a given gear and RPM.

And one final aspect, automatic transmissions normally weigh more, from 60 - 120 Lbs in most cases. This is beginning to change as they have begun making the automatics more compact. But in general, manuals weigh less.

Ant7701

Two answers :
1. I live in Nassau County and I might plan on going to E-town . I just dunno the date everyone is going . Why , do you want your Max to get smoked or your Accord , He He , just playin
2. Lowering the car DOES NOT VOID ANY WARRANTY except for that of a suspension problem , even in that case it's rare and limited .
Also with the 330ci , the automatic may have the SS mode , however that doesn't do anything for your launch like a manual will do . Plus on some cars , autos actually have less hp along with the lower gear ratios in the trans.

Ant7701

What was the advantage ? I don't know , anyways I took a new 4 door G35 by about 1-1+1/2 cars three times in a row . The kid liked having his ass handed to him . Maybe he didn't know how to drive or something? Anyways , Abe , do you still want to buy my exhaust . If so pm me .

F23A4

Kewl!! Maybe we could do some kinda TL/CL vs Max/Altima event. (Kind of in the spirit Etown's Mustang vs Camaro contests.) Could be a load of fun!!

lou_RENAMED

you know Im down . Is yours the one with the 222 hp or the 255hp? I see u have an auto any other mods that u haven't listed or keeping her stock.?

F23A4

Yeah, I have the VQ35DE equipped Maxima (2002 model) with 255hp. Outside of my aftermartket front and rear strut bars, I'm still stock. Although, I may have an AEM CAI come Spring 2003.

I'm thinking we should do the race-meet during March 2003, while it's still cool out.

Keep in touch. Ant, are you down??

Ant7701

Depending on the date , but I'm down otherwise