p.diddy

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i want to upgrade to a '03 steering wheel. i know the wheel itself is a direct swap but do i need to change the airbag or anything? i searched but cant find anything on the airbag question. im thinking about pulling the trigger on one so any info would help.

rp_guy

i don't think there was a difference between the years other than the airbag? all type-s should have the perf leather

p.diddy

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could you show me where you saw that the airbag is different?

rp_guy

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...=airbag+emblem

i dunno.. maybe it's not as easy as i thought

civicdrivr

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01-02 is single stage, 03 is dual stage. You could do it by rigging something up, but do you really want to rig up the airbag?

p.diddy

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thanks. oh no im not "rigging" anything that can lead to death. if i do it im going to do it the right way.

fuzzy02CLS

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It's only the steering wheel your replacing? Then any 1 for 01-03 CL/TL/MDX will bolt up fine. Your going to reuse your airbag.

p.diddy

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i want to change the center piece too. i like the look of the '03 wheel better. plus the leather on my wheel is worn.

97BlackAckCL

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You can swap the wheel and keep your original airbag and srs module, messing with the dual stage could get tricky

p.diddy

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so can i swap over the center piece with the acura emblem without changing the airbag?

rp_guy

no, you can't. it doesn't come off. if you try you will dent the shit outta it

p.diddy

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damn i dont know if i want to bother with that at all then.

rp_guy

just go with an s2k or rsx wheel with rsx bag. plug and play. they range anywhere from $125 - $250 used on CRSX, for the whole setup.

p.diddy

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i dont even know what those wheels look like. but i really wanted to keep my CL wheel i like the way it looks.

civicdrivr

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Those are dual stage bags, its not plug and play.

rp_guy

i keep forgetting he's got an 01.

p.diddy

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i really wanted to do this too. just dont know if i really want to bother with swapping airbags.

DC3328

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this was talked about on the TL side too, unfortunately for us single stagers, the only wheel/bag combo that will work is from one of the s2k's but then you'll be stuck with a Honda emblem

rp_guy

afaik you would want to check out the threads about swapping the s2k airbag in (s2k is single, 03 cl is dual). just need to measure the resistance of the single stage bag and emulate that via resistors.

the only thing is that a dual stage airbag would only come out at one speed, which would be no different than your stock single stage.

rp_guy

actually i take that back:

https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...3&postcount=19

you would only need to wire in a single stage (presumably the stronger one) and you are set

the 03 ECU needs to be tricked into running the second stage, but i don't see why the 01 ECU and 03 bag wouldn't work running a single stage only

rp_guy

WWW.HONDA - TECH.com/showthread.php?t=1899912

remove the spaces

fuzzy02CLS

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Well if your steering wheel is trashed you can still replace that. It's separate from the airbag. There was a guy on eBay that sold a sticker you could put over the airbag to make it look like the 03. IDK if it's still available. That was a long time ago.

civicdrivr

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Not all S2ks were single stage, IIRC it was only the AP1s.

Not sure if its a typo, but the 03 doesnt need to be tricked into running the dual stage bag, dual stage is what is on the 03s. A dual stage bag on a single stage SRS computer will throw an SRS light, and IIRC when the SRS light is on, the bag wont deploy.

rp_guy

yeah, i haven't had much sleep. acctg MT in 2 hrs as well.

you're right on both accounts. (oh i think i meant that when an 03 ECU runs a single stage bag, the ECU must be tricked into thinking that there's a second stage available, which is done via resistors)

a dual stage bag has a good chance of working if the SRS light doesn't show up, which it didn't for those guys on h-t. you just have to hook it up to the right stage on the airbag, and the wires on the reel. 1 stage can be unplugged on the bag itself, so there's no loose wires.

aznboi2424

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if you want the emblem look

https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-cl-2001-2003-50/airbag-logo-mod-early-2g-cl-tls-ect-707818/

97BlackAckCL

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What we're saying is you can keep your same airbag and just put a new steering wheel on

JBlueCLS6

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I've got a spare 03 steering wheel btw with under 40k miles. looks brand new if you're looking for one. When I bought my 2nd. CL it had a marble steering wheel installed, and dude had stock parts he gave me.

p.diddy

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I realize wha ur saying. What I'm saying is in order to change over the 03 center piece I have to chang he airbag which I what I really don't want to bother with.

I'll keep u in mind.

97BlackAckCL

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That's what I'm saying, don't bother. Keep your airbag, get a new wheel, problem solved. Swapping an airbag that your car doesn't support for an emblem seems kind of silly is all. I had to change airbags when I went from a 97 to an 01 CL-S steering wheel, and I wanted the airbag with the emblem too until I found out that they were 2 stage and I said screw it, and just upgraded to a newer airbag that matches my 01 wheel perfect after a little paint