2002 3.2 CL

I don't konw if it was mentioned yet but that extra 35 hp must be from a V6 I-Vtec of some sort. Or like other people said it could just be the NSX engine. Then that would mean that the v8 for the nsx will be out in 2002 cause why pay 90 grand for a nsx when the cls has the same hp and or engine. Come on Acura you can take over the market and kill many comapny's with these moves that you are starting to take. Now all we need is the V8 Honda Truck and the V8 RL and Honda/Acura will be #1 and other companys will to them. Add more info or correct me if i am wrong about the new cls. Now must wait for the 2002 CL-S 6 speed

provench

I also think Honda should get in the truck market ... look at what Toyota is doing !

As for the 6-speed ... I am a faithful Acura buyer which is why I love my car and got #1 on the list for WHATEVER the 6-speed turns out to be -- Acura will not let me down. At a minimum it will be the car I like, but with a 6-speed for some fun and additional power to the wheels, BUT .... it could be more

This one will be a true test of my patience

NOVAwhiteTypeS

well the nsx IS much lighter than the cl-s so even if we get the nsx engine, which I doubt. we won't be any where close to the nsx.

Red Nj-s

I highly doubt they would use the NSX engine. Torque is what matters to the target segment for the CL. I would think it would most likely be from a bump in compression or headers. I don't think they would put the new I-Vtec on the 3.2 when they are probably going to make a 3.5 soon anyway.

Jus my .02

scl23

That would make the CL-S like a $50k car. There's NO way that's going to happen. Accept it folks, our CL-S's are premium Accords. I don't have a problem with that since I think Accords are nice and the CL-S is even nicer. I'd wish they do something to make the CL-S look a bit sharper (maybe make the rear bumper look less like Rosie O's ass.) but it's NOT a performance mobile. More of a luxury coupe w/ kick ass engine.

vince

The NSX engine probably wouldn't even fit in the CL, given that it's a 90 degree vee, while the J block is 60 degrees.

Amir

i think it will be the i-vtec engine 3.2...there is no way they are gonna take something old and tweak it for +5 HP...car manufacturers like to produce new innovative products, who wants to buy a revamped nsx engine when both the cars dont even share the same platform...I would rather have a smarter, more efficient engine...Hence,the i-vtec system...Shyne

mdaniel

i-vtec makes sense. Its already out on the RSX so they've had a little while to work with it. What makes i-vtec different? Isn't it just programming? Pretty cheap to implement too.

typeR

i-VTEC would be awesome...more torque...and someone did say they brought over the equip from japan to build DOHC engines here.

laser1180

I seriously do not know whats wrong with yall people!!! Yall had been talking about 2003, remember guys, 2001 just barely over with 2002 out, and yall talking about 2003? isnt that a little bit too obsess??? Who cares if 2003 will have 295 or even 300hps, or 6spd, who cares, its not out yet! Don't predict anything until it's officaly out! But it's OK to fantansize about it!

bioyuki

Almost every performence DOHC VTEC engine made by Honda is usually called high-strung by people. You have to drive it like you stole it get any power out of it. In an entry level lux coupe/sedan having to rev the engine to past 6k to get power is unacceptable. Look how uncharateristic our engines are compared to most Honda engines. It makes a lot of torque (comparatively) and delivers it at a rather low RPM. IMO, a performence DOHC iVTEC/VTEC engine (K20A2, F20C etc) will never make it into a semilux car. A more efficient SOHC VTEC design will probably be used.

Chrisbert

I think I've seen this same post 3 times now!

Juker008

Really... . So u think that a DOHC in our CLS would be a step back the the right direction. I believe that a DOHC would make our CLS's a 295hp machine, and add i-VTEC and there (I believe) would be a killer setup. But tell me why u think that a SOHC setup would be more practical than a DOHC setup.

TRELOS

mdaniel

I think reving higher with iVTEC and DOHC would only add to the engine. The reason S2000's and RSX's are "rev them like you stole them" cars is because they have tiny displacement and no torque. They're designed for HP at high revs. But what if you took our engine, with the same exact torque and HP curve, except that it reved to 8000 with 295HP at 7800. You could rev it to 6900 and have the same engine you have now. Or rev it higher and go even faster. Our engines are bigger so will always have a big torque advantage over the smaller engines. You don't have to rev our's to the moon, but if you could: oh yeah, that would be sweet!

mistacanyon

I would highly doubt ever seeing a DOHC engine in the CL. You have to remember the market this car is competing in. While I would personally love to have an engine that cooks at 8 or 9 g's, I don't think Acura has any plans on putting it in there "Contemporary Luxury" line. As far as the 295 hp, I have doubts about that also. Not because it can't be done but because Acura would have to put a lot of money into it. My first thought would be headers, but that is a serious cost when it's done on every production CL. Also Acura would have to make some mods to the tranny. I'm thinking CL "Special Edition" (think IS300 L-tuned, BMW M-series).

juniorbean

iTrader: (5)

LMAO.. I was thinking the same thing!! LOL

SatinCL

1) Cost
2) Noise
3) Space
4) Long-Term Durability
5) Servicability
6) simplicity


J32 long-blocks are identical to a J30. Displacement increases were/are accomplished through chamber modifications. The common denominator to all J-series is SOHC.

The global midsize platform will spawn permeations of common parts, therefore, don't expect to see specialty-applications in a volume platform......save for tuning/add-on modifications.