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Originally Posted by typeR
im not arguing here but the job of the IAT i would think is to read ambient...and not a mix of ambient and the heat soak of the upper intake...alittle furthure proof is that acura relocated the IAT in both the 04 TL and RL ,placing it next to the throttle body
I could be mistaken but didn't Acura move away from speed density and to a MAF system with the RL? Regardless, if tuned for it the location is fine. But if changed there is a basis for arguement.
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.... hmmm ethics springs to mind.....
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Originally Posted by scalbert
I could be mistaken but didn't Acura move away from speed density and to a MAF system with the RL? Regardless, if tuned for it the location is fine. But if changed there is a basis for arguement.
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Ooops, broken and melted plugs are not good in any motor especially an aluminum head/block J-series.
Looks like a rebuild. I don't believe in NOS myself, too many thing can go wrong. It is hard to say no to instant power. Although if you take a second to read the specs you will see the HIGH comp of our motors spells trouble for such an instant power add on. SC or turbo are better because they add power gradually easing the strain on the motor. Live and learn I guess.
Warranty of any kind will most likely be voided. You probably already know this and are avoiding the inevitable. Sorry about your motor and good luck
Looks like a rebuild. I don't believe in NOS myself, too many thing can go wrong. It is hard to say no to instant power. Although if you take a second to read the specs you will see the HIGH comp of our motors spells trouble for such an instant power add on. SC or turbo are better because they add power gradually easing the strain on the motor. Live and learn I guess.
Warranty of any kind will most likely be voided. You probably already know this and are avoiding the inevitable. Sorry about your motor and good luck
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Ooops, broken and melted plugs are not good in any motor especially an aluminum head/block J-series.
Looks like a rebuild. I don't believe in NOS myself, too many thing can go wrong. It is hard to say no to instant power. Although if you take a second to read the specs you will see the HIGH comp of our motors spells trouble for such an instant power add on. SC or turbo are better because they add power gradually easing the strain on the motor. Live and learn I guess.
Warranty of any kind will most likely be voided. You probably already know this and are avoiding the inevitable. Sorry about your motor and good luck
Looks like a rebuild. I don't believe in NOS myself, too many thing can go wrong. It is hard to say no to instant power. Although if you take a second to read the specs you will see the HIGH comp of our motors spells trouble for such an instant power add on. SC or turbo are better because they add power gradually easing the strain on the motor. Live and learn I guess.
Warranty of any kind will most likely be voided. You probably already know this and are avoiding the inevitable. Sorry about your motor and good luck
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Originally Posted by typeR
the 05 RL has a MAP sensor on the TB
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Originally Posted by typeR
yes because the highly ethical acura warned us ahead of time about our transmissions they knew full well about
So, because of a design issue in the transaxle which may or may not affect him he should get a free engine after damaging his own?
That does not make any sense.
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Originally Posted by typeR
yes because the highly ethical acura warned us ahead of time about our transmissions they knew full well about and they also offered to give each of us new rotors regaurless of miles...they'll replace our motor mounts for life,and theyre telling each owner about the likelyhood that there accutator is failed...the list goes on and on...oh and his dealership sell each person the same car for the same amount also giving a fair trade in price for those that have one...they never seek to get more money out of someone because they can,and there service center never tries to do out of warranty work where it isnt nessecary
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Originally Posted by typeR
oh and his dealership sell each person the same car for the same amount also giving a fair trade in price for those that have one...they never seek to get more money out of someone because they can,and there service center never tries to do out of warranty work where it isnt nessecary
Business is business and everyone has the option to go soemwhere else. I am sure you do not work for free. Why should anyone else. It is easy to point a finger and say others should bend over backwards for you, but I doubt you do the same in return.
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So, because of a design issue in the transaxle which may or may not affect him he should get a free engine after damaging his own?
That does not make any sense.
My service advisor also said that installing the crank pulley OR headers not including intake would void my ext. trans warranty. Common, now that has to be full on bull shit. You cannot tell me that he's just being a moron and trying to save acura some money. How can a measely 8 added HP from a crank pulley void a trans warranty?
anyways, bottom line, it's things like this where I feel that they deserve losing the argument with me for fixing my motor. Although it most likely will not happen, it's worth the try.
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Originally Posted by rtatsutani
Honestly, I just see it as trying to get even with them for trying to rip me and most others off in all other areas (ridiculous service charges and belt change recomendations when not needed, always trying to void ones warranty for aftermarket parts even if they had nothing to do with the problem at hand). Have you ever compared the price and labor hour quotes for jobs which were covered under warranty and jobs which weren't? Ridiculously different. Ironic? Doubt it. My girlfriend and I both had acura integras since the mid 90's and have seen every trick in the book from their service department and really have fell for it back it in the day and got burned. Live and learn.
My service advisor also said that installing the crank pulley OR headers not including intake would void my ext. trans warranty. Common, now that has to be full on bull shit. You cannot tell me that he's just being a moron and trying to save acura some money. How can a measely 8 added HP from a crank pulley void a trans warranty?
anyways, bottom line, it's things like this where I feel that they deserve losing the argument with me for fixing my motor. Although it most likely will not happen, it's worth the try.
My service advisor also said that installing the crank pulley OR headers not including intake would void my ext. trans warranty. Common, now that has to be full on bull shit. You cannot tell me that he's just being a moron and trying to save acura some money. How can a measely 8 added HP from a crank pulley void a trans warranty?
anyways, bottom line, it's things like this where I feel that they deserve losing the argument with me for fixing my motor. Although it most likely will not happen, it's worth the try.
Most people think dealers are ripping everyone off when in fact, they are running a business which employs numerous people. If they did not make a profit, many people would not have a job. I assure you that they also incur serious costs associated with the services they perform. It is not just the labor but also the infrastructure.
Obviously you are trying to tell yourself whatever you need to in order to justify the actions. Regardless of what is stated, you have made up your mind on the justification, which there is none.
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Originally Posted by scalbert
You are trying to justify your own problems with these statements by trying to reallocate blame. Look at the situation, your engine is damaged most likely due to your own choices. You are trying to have someone else pay for it on the basis of unrelated and perceived matters.
Most people think dealers are ripping everyone off when in fact, they are running a business which employs numerous people. If they did not make a profit, many people would not have a job. I assure you that they also incur serious costs associated with the services they perform. It is not just the labor but also the infrastructure.
Obviously you are trying to tell yourself whatever you need to in order to justify the actions. Regardless of what is stated, you have made up your mind on the justification, which there is none.
Most people think dealers are ripping everyone off when in fact, they are running a business which employs numerous people. If they did not make a profit, many people would not have a job. I assure you that they also incur serious costs associated with the services they perform. It is not just the labor but also the infrastructure.
Obviously you are trying to tell yourself whatever you need to in order to justify the actions. Regardless of what is stated, you have made up your mind on the justification, which there is none.
Taking it to my local speed shop today, they said they will try to see what other things may have been the cause of my unfortunate issue and give me a quote on the repairs there.
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Originally Posted by rtatsutani
Unfortunately for me your last statement is incorrect. I just got off the phone with Acura, and they said that they would be charging me $1000 (compared to his earlier 4 hour labor quote) as a disassemble/reassemble fee which I will be forced to pay just to have the extended warranty co. take a look at the internals. After he threatened me with that inflated value I guess I really have no choice. I really don't want to take the risk of losing $1000 out of pocket for them just to tell me that they're not going to cover my ass. BTW, he told me it would cost me $9000 to do a full rebuild on my motor if I went through acura.
Taking it to my local speed shop today, they said they will try to see what other things may have been the cause of my unfortunate issue and give me a quote on the repairs there.
Taking it to my local speed shop today, they said they will try to see what other things may have been the cause of my unfortunate issue and give me a quote on the repairs there.
Also, think of the positives now, you can get a built engine. What is done is in the past, now you can plan for the future.
Again, I am sorry for your situation and wish you the best.
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Originally Posted by scalbert
IMO, it sounds like the dealer knows what is going on and is elevating the price to the point that you do go elsewhere. Think of it as a godsend as they probably expected the car not to be covered and you won't be out that $$.
Also, think of the positives now, you can get a built engine. What is done is in the past, now you can plan for the future.
Again, I am sorry for your situation and wish you the best.
Also, think of the positives now, you can get a built engine. What is done is in the past, now you can plan for the future.
Again, I am sorry for your situation and wish you the best.
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Originally Posted by rtatsutani
sure it must be cheaper than $9000.
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Originally Posted by scalbert
That doesn't mean anything. Is there a MAF in place as well? A MAF based system will still utilize a MAP and IAT in case the MAF fails. This is for redundant load calculation. Often times a comparison is made to determine the health of the MAF.
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Originally Posted by scalbert
So, because of a design issue in the transaxle which may or may not affect him he should get a free engine after damaging his own?
That does not make any sense.
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Originally Posted by scalbert
So, because of a design issue in the transaxle which may or may not affect him he should get a free engine after damaging his own?
That does not make any sense.
I guess you don't live by the standard that Two Wrongs make a Right
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You should have not gone to the dealership to begin with. Now you lost $1,000 when you could have bought the block for the amount to begin with. I dislike dealerships, and I have my own reasons as to why. Anyways, get started on your J35 swap and happy modding! Just take your loss at the dealership and stop wasting time.
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No, I didn't go with the option of having them prove to the extended warranty folks that I had nos in there (would've costed $1000). I just told them I wanted my car back and I wasn't going to pursue the issue with warranty. Anyways, I am getting my pro rated credit from the extended warranty folks for $900 so that should give me a headstart on getting the parts and stuff for the conversion.
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You can order a brand new J35 assembled block for $1,300 from acuraparts247.com and type-s pistons or '05 RL pistons (you will need one or the other) for $300. The rest is just labor.
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Hmm, I thought the J32 was a better block for the RL crankshaft and pistons? Are you suggesting the J35 b/c it's a cheaper approach to the conversion?
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Originally Posted by rtatsutani
Hmm, I thought the J32 was a better block for the RL crankshaft and pistons? Are you suggesting the J35 b/c it's a cheaper approach to the conversion?
It is easiest to use the fully assembled J35 block from the factory because you'll have all the parts. You'll still need to tear it down to install the new pistons though.
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
You don't use the RL crankshaft.
It is easiest to use the fully assembled J35 block from the factory because you'll have all the parts. You'll still need to tear it down to install the new pistons though.
It is easiest to use the fully assembled J35 block from the factory because you'll have all the parts. You'll still need to tear it down to install the new pistons though.
Well, bringing my car in tomorrow to get the mechanic's opninion. I'll let you guys know what he says. I'll start a new thread with the 3.5 build after he finds out if I need a new block or not.
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