mblock66

Ok I have about 14k on my stock rubber and was thinking that in the next 6k or so I would try to replace them. But I don't like the stock tires so much and want to upgrade. Here are my criteria though.

1) I don't have aftermarket rims and don't plan on them so the tire would have to fit on my stock rims.

2) I don't want anything that is too big and might cause rubbing

3) Hopefully the tires are resonably price and they will not melt away in 10k miles

So given that what is the best performance brand/model/and size for me?

I know nothing about tires for my CLS. Thanks

TypeSKid

Got pics of the Vortech Supercharger for the RSX-S yet?

Zapata

Michelin Pilot Sport A/S for an all around tire with the same treadwear rating that the stock tires have. I have stock rims and was in the same boat as you.

Stock tires are 215/50 you could go with a 225/50 or a 225/45.


Some people got those all season toyo's but didn't like how they performed in the snow. The Dunlop SP5000 didn't fair well in the snow.

mblock66

Really? You went with Michelin's again? How did those comepare to the stocks? Perform much better? Is it worth gettng 225's? The stocks are a little thin but 225's might slow ya down even more, no?

and TYPESKID lose the attitude alright. I clarified the situation already so give it a rest. I said the pics will be up as soon as the conversion is done. Don't post if you aren't going to add to my question at hand!

Zapata

Yeah, michelins again. I needed something that i could use all year round otherwise i would've gone with Bridgestones.

Performance:
For sure. There is a huge difference in cornering. Although I am still on stock suspensionn, so i really don't know the full potential of the tires. The agressive tread pattern will shine in the rain and snow. Stock tires are horrible for either of those conditions. Straightline acceleration I haven't broken in the tires real well so I can't say. If you go with a 225/50 you might feel a tad slower but that extra width will help in cornering and straightline. If you are concerned about keeping the ratio similar to stock I would go with a 225/45.

mblock66

Cool you have been a big help. Would the speedo and tach be a off a little with a wider tire? Probably not much if at all. How much are those Michelin's? I assume the only difference with a 225/50 and 225/45 is that the 50 will last a few miles longer?

Zapata

Well. The difference is the profile. How thick it looks from the side. It won't have any difference in how long the tire lasts because they are made from the same rubber and have the same treadwear rating. What you will see or hear is a little more roadnoise(slight). However, with the lower profile you road feel will better. I went with a 50. Welp, from tirerack i think the tires are on back order for like $202. You can get them for $832 shipped. The speedo will be off like 1.9% or something so it's not bad at all.

mblock66

But in your opinion those are the best tires in that price range? What about something that is more on just the performance side instead of all weather. I use to have goodyear GSC's on my old camaro and they were terrible in rain but well worth it when dry so I might not mind a little loss in wet traction to gain a little in straight up dry performance.

Scrib

What concerns me is the fact that you'd be putting a bigger tire on the stock rims. Isn't that at all dangerous? I'm not trying to be a smart-ass... I'm dead serious. I'm a tire moron...

mblock66 - I've heard that the 215/50/17 Toyo T1-S are a nice performance tire. I'm also looking into more of a performance tire and then getting some snow tires for the winter months. Let me know what you come up with and decide.

Zapata

In the price range. Yes. The load rating, tread wear, grip the Pilot A/S are the best IMHO.

Well straight up performance rubber will make the tires wear out a bit faster because the rubber is softer. If you want tires that you can take off during the winter then you have many options like toyo's, bridgestones, dunlops.

fast_daddy_car

Note that the Mich Pilot Sport A/S in 225/45 size only has a load rating of 90, which is below specs.

The 225/50 has a load rating of 94, beating our 93 requirement. (see other threads about the XL rating and its non-existance in the manuals)

Both of these sizes fits nicely on our stock 7" rims.


The performance of these tires is well above the stocks. These have a traction AA rating and treadwear of 400. (stock tires is traction A tread 300)

I don't know how accurate milage markers are on the highway, or those "your speed is..." signs, but my spedo seems to be on target. Note that this was assuming that the stock tires have the spedo correct to begin with!


I bought them locally from CostCo for $209 including mount/balance/road_hazard.

Scooter

here ya go...Pilot Sport A/S 225/50/ZR17












no rubbing...no danger that it's too big...tires bulge out to just about even with stock rim, so curbing is less likely!! what's not to want???

mblock66

Hmmmm that tire looks a lot beefier than stocks. Lots of sidewall tread. But they are nice. Might have to go get some in a few thousand miles.

yogibear

I'm also thinking of getting new wider tires.... can I go 235/50 Pilot A/S on Stock rims?

JRock

Haha, damn I don't think I could buy tires in 50 series if they all look like giant monster snow/desert tires like those. Ugh. My car's gonna be dropped tomorrow so I'm looking for 45series or lower and no wider than 225 that meet our Ultra Heavy Load Rating.

What fits that has long tire wear?

< or = 225mm, < or = 45series, all-season, at least a little stickier than stock but great treadwear, Ultra Load rating. ANYTHING meet that?

The Ultra load rating REALLY ruins our selection.

H@mmerm@n

Toyo Proxes T1-S

JRock

$$$?

And how are they in the rain?

And I thought they were summer/performance tires so they wore faster?


I could get the Kumho ecsta Supras in 235/45 but they aren't made to fit our rim exactly so it sounds kinda dangerous. And I sometimes drive... fast. It's too bad the 225s don't meet our load rating. Kinda like the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S in 225. Makes me want to cry.

JRock

I think I've killed every tire thread I post in by asking the question I did two posts ago:

225/45 or lower series, UL rating, long lasting tread but stickier than stock. AND fits on our 7" rim.

It's unpossible.

Red Rider

Thanks Hammer, those are my 215-50-17s on stock wheels. They are great tires. Fantastic grip in dry and wet. I now have the same tire in 18s, the ones you see here are for sale. You gotta love that tread pattern

Nashua_Night_Hawk

I love the shining of your red rockets

Red Rider

Thanks Bro

Scooter

glistening

gracias!! can't wait to show u at PAA next month!!