Should I sell the CL?
03-10-2010, 08:06 PM
#1
Should I sell the CL?
Well, I'll cut straight to the chase. The tranny in my brother's '01 TL just went out, out of warranty of course, but it only had 72K on it. He is doing the cheapest repair he can find at the moment which is at right about $2,000 and selling the car. The thought of this happening to mine really worries my dad and I. We don't have the means or money to dump that much money into a 7yr. old car. As mine sits now, it has 99,5xx miles and the tranny isn't acting up at the moment. I don't know what I should do. Do I keep the car, replace the tranny and do a t-belt service on it, or sell it and buy something else with less problems? What is you guys' opinion on this?
03-10-2010, 08:12 PM
#2
I Wanna Beer
Sell it and buy something with less problems if you aren't attached and willing to throw away money on it as long as you can get a decent price for it. Strip the mods and sell them here and sell the car as close to stock as you can since mods get you almost no return on a car sale and even drive people away.
03-10-2010, 08:36 PM
#4
Three Wheelin'
Well look at it this way, what car would you plan on replacing it with.
If its a car of equal value which won't be much more than 10k Im betting, you might run into other reliability issues. Besides the tranny on these cars, they are very reliable. I know the tranny is a big money problem, but what I mean is, you might get nickle and dimed to death in another car and end up adding up close to $2k with all the small issues.
Next if you replace it with a more expensive car, thats obvious that you are going to have higher payments and it defeats the purpose.
If it makes you feel better, I have 205k on my car and the tranny in my car has about 130k miles on it and still runs great, knock on wood
If its a car of equal value which won't be much more than 10k Im betting, you might run into other reliability issues. Besides the tranny on these cars, they are very reliable. I know the tranny is a big money problem, but what I mean is, you might get nickle and dimed to death in another car and end up adding up close to $2k with all the small issues.
Next if you replace it with a more expensive car, thats obvious that you are going to have higher payments and it defeats the purpose.
If it makes you feel better, I have 205k on my car and the tranny in my car has about 130k miles on it and still runs great, knock on wood
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03-10-2010, 09:08 PM
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If you are really worried about the transmission , try considering other options. For example, some members on the forum have put the o7 tl transmission into the cl. With this installed , there would be peace of mind. Other then that, just keep up maintenance on the car and the CL should last you, I plan on driving it till the wheels fall off.
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03-10-2010, 09:14 PM
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If you are really worried about the transmission , try considering other options. For example, some members on the forum have put the o7 tl transmission into the cl. With this installed , there would be peace of mind. Other then that, just keep up maintenance on the car and the CL should last you, I plan on driving it till the wheels fall off.
03-10-2010, 10:11 PM
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Whats up with RDX owners?
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Sell sell sell!
03-10-2010, 10:21 PM
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They didnt really change Jeeps much, whats wrong with an older mid 90s model?
03-10-2010, 10:34 PM
#13
I've been driving my dad's '04 Grand Cherokee Larado lately, and it's a really nice truck. We used to have an '01 box Cherokee before that, and that thing was rugged. I'm leaning more toward the GC Overland because it has the 4.7L HO V8 and the Quadratrac 4wd system in it, plus it looks nice. I think I could pick up an '02 for around $7500. I thought about a box Cherokee because they're a lot cheaper than the GC's and can take a beating. I really don't want a '90s one because they will have way too many miles on them.
03-11-2010, 07:23 AM
#15
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Jeeps are gonna break down on you. They all have reliability issues and plenty of other issues. As for the '07 transmission swap, you'd be dropping $2000+ on a $7000 car. Don't see that being worth it. Someone argued that you'll have reliability issues with other cars that will add up to what a new transmission will cost but that's not the case as long as you get something with a good track record. There are plenty of cars in the $7000 range that will still give you trouble free use for years to come. To think the CL is the only car that'll do that is foolish.
03-11-2010, 07:53 AM
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I just bought a car for my financee and we really did our homework. We looked at Jeeps until we got a membership to consumer reports and saw all the problem areas. There are a lot of cars out there with serious issues. Just do your homework before you purchase anything.
03-11-2010, 08:38 AM
#17
I Wanna Beer
Most Jeep vehicles make Consumer Reports list of "Worst of the Worst" every year. My fiance has had quite a few problems with hers. She'd sell it now if she could get what's owed on it. You'd also be looking at 15mpg at best from the V8s and the V6s aren't much better.
03-11-2010, 08:55 AM
#18
Three Wheelin'
Jeeps are gonna break down on you. They all have reliability issues and plenty of other issues. As for the '07 transmission swap, you'd be dropping $2000+ on a $7000 car. Don't see that being worth it. Someone argued that you'll have reliability issues with other cars that will add up to what a new transmission will cost but that's not the case as long as you get something with a good track record. There are plenty of cars in the $7000 range that will still give you trouble free use for years to come. To think the CL is the only car that'll do that is foolish.
You need reading comprehension skills. I said, "might" run into problems. Obviously that means depending on his choice he could still end up having issues.
Also, it's a fact, the lower price the car, the higher likelihood of reliability issues. It's like trading one clunker in for another.
Obviously he could trade in his CL and go out and get a 2000 accord/civic and not have to worry about anything.
The point I was trying to make is, a bunch of small bills that add up to 2k is the same as one large bill equaling 2k.
03-11-2010, 09:18 AM
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Jeeps have their own problems and Chrysler trannies aren't much better than your tranny. If you do sell, and have concerns about auto trannies, you may want to consider going to a manual
03-11-2010, 09:29 AM
#20
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You need reading comprehension skills. I said, "might" run into problems. Obviously that means depending on his choice he could still end up having issues.
Also, it's a fact, the lower price the car, the higher likelihood of reliability issues. It's like trading one clunker in for another.
Obviously he could trade in his CL and go out and get a 2000 accord/civic and not have to worry about anything.
The point I was trying to make is, a bunch of small bills that add up to 2k is the same as one large bill equaling 2k.
Also, it's a fact, the lower price the car, the higher likelihood of reliability issues. It's like trading one clunker in for another.
Obviously he could trade in his CL and go out and get a 2000 accord/civic and not have to worry about anything.
The point I was trying to make is, a bunch of small bills that add up to 2k is the same as one large bill equaling 2k.
03-11-2010, 10:22 AM
#21
Three Wheelin'
Im not talking new cars, Im talking as you get into a lower price bracket of automobiles, it typically means they have higher mileage, higher wear.
Im not talking about how unreliable Range Rovers are because of their crazy suspension setup. Or how newer more expensive cars have much more technology in them vs a lower priced entry level vehicle.
Im comparing apples and apples. There is a used car that is lower in price because it has high mileage and 10 years old. And a used car that is cheap already because it was a poorly made car and didnt hold its value.
And of course there are exceptions to everything. You used the 40k jeep as an example. But is a 40k new tl more reliable than a 13k kia?
03-11-2010, 10:23 AM
#22
Whats up with RDX owners?
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#2 - Read the next line.
And x2 on the manual tranny. If youre looking for an off-road vehicle, have you looked at older Toyotas? Theyre pretty rugged, and the older T100s are pretty much bullet-proof. What about Nissan Pathfinders? Ill admit, I dont know much about their reliability though.
03-11-2010, 10:45 AM
#23
slick: you already know how i feel man. if u cant afford to fix it then u cant afford to drive it. i learned that the hard way when my tranny went out and i had to hustle 2.5k to do a swap.
now i have a better job and i still wouldnt buy another auto tl or cl.
sell the mods (to me)
sell the car for your 7.5k and dont budge below 7k unless ur getting a trade.
look at the maximas of that year. u can get a sicks speed or 5 speed max for a good price.
stay away from jeeps. might as well bury your money if your gunna get another unreliable car.
buy what you can afford and save up for what you want
now i have a better job and i still wouldnt buy another auto tl or cl.
sell the mods (to me)
sell the car for your 7.5k and dont budge below 7k unless ur getting a trade.
look at the maximas of that year. u can get a sicks speed or 5 speed max for a good price.
stay away from jeeps. might as well bury your money if your gunna get another unreliable car.
buy what you can afford and save up for what you want
03-11-2010, 02:27 PM
#27
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IMO, take Jeep off the table. If you're looking for all-around reliability, don't buy American. Flame me if you want, but look at resale values of Japanese vs. US made cars. My family previously owned 2 jeeps and both were not very good cars.
Second, if a manual is out of the question, maybe you should start saving your money for a new tranny now. Put $150 or so away each month and don't spend it. Hopefully you'll have enough if (though probably when) your transmission fails.
Third, if you want off-road capabilities consider an Isuzu Rodeo. They have good power, good off-road performance and have relatively low resale. I had mine for ten years and put a hard 100k miles on it. I beat that thing up on and off the road. The only problem I ever had was a bad EGR valve and that was at 100k. They do have some problems with their gas gauges, though I never experienced it. I sold my '99 two years ago for $5500 and it had a nice system and lift.
Here's a link
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2188194
Second, if a manual is out of the question, maybe you should start saving your money for a new tranny now. Put $150 or so away each month and don't spend it. Hopefully you'll have enough if (though probably when) your transmission fails.
Third, if you want off-road capabilities consider an Isuzu Rodeo. They have good power, good off-road performance and have relatively low resale. I had mine for ten years and put a hard 100k miles on it. I beat that thing up on and off the road. The only problem I ever had was a bad EGR valve and that was at 100k. They do have some problems with their gas gauges, though I never experienced it. I sold my '99 two years ago for $5500 and it had a nice system and lift.
Here's a link
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2188194
03-11-2010, 04:06 PM
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Whats up with RDX owners?
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And how old are you?
03-11-2010, 07:31 PM
#32
A manual was out of the question for me as well. This is why we got an 01 Cl for me.
I've since proven to my dad that earlier model honda's (before 05) have the worst AT's ever.
Like someone else said, take the money you would spend fixing the tranny, and the money you would get from selling the car now, and get an all around better car for around 10k.
I've since proven to my dad that earlier model honda's (before 05) have the worst AT's ever.
Like someone else said, take the money you would spend fixing the tranny, and the money you would get from selling the car now, and get an all around better car for around 10k.
03-11-2010, 07:52 PM
#34
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If you like the car, start saving for a tranny now. Especially since you can only get another auto, which seems ridiculous to me.
03-11-2010, 08:23 PM
#35
I'd really hate to say "wait and find out" since there have been plenty of oddball transmissions out there that last pretty long. I mean who knows? By the time the trans finally croaks, you might have enough saved up for a trans swap, or anything else.
But wait, you said you're also at the 7 year service mark. I mean if you're REALLY strapped for cash (as far as funds for anything car related) then yeah, I think selling it might be an option most definitely worth considering. If you figure the t-belt then (for the sake of argument) the trans goes shortly after, you may be in too deep.
03-12-2010, 01:38 PM
#38
My dad says it's my car and my decisinon, which is odd because he likes to be in control. I'm starting a new job soon with a lot more hours, so if my pay checks are decent I might just save up and keep the car. I have graduation coming up soon so I will most likely get some money for that.
03-16-2010, 06:15 AM
#39
I dont get why parents want kids to drive autos only unless they physically just cant handle a manual which is hard to beleive if you can play video games. Driving manual makes me focus more on the task at hand and having an auto makes you multitask and focus more on stuff besides driving imo. Also girls like a guy who can handle a stick. Hmm did that sound kinda :theghey: