Saving an 03 CL-S 6Spd

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 21, 2021 | 08:46 PM
  #161  
zeta's Avatar
Suzuka Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 6,909
Likes: 2,211
From: S. Florida
^Hey Acura2g558, can you post a few detailed pictures of the new JSwapShop CL-S6 torque dampers when you get them?
Thanks!
Reply
Old Mar 22, 2021 | 05:31 AM
  #162  
Acura2g558's Avatar
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 279
Likes: 90
From: Vermont
Originally Posted by zeta
^Hey Acura2g558, can you post a few detailed pictures of the new JSwapShop CL-S6 torque dampers when you get them?
Thanks!
Absolutely. I'm going to do a video on them too
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2021 | 12:35 PM
  #163  
skater03CLS's Avatar
2nd Gear
 
Joined: Mar 2021
Posts: 2
Likes: 3
Hey there! I am the only owner of a 2003 CL Type S. Very nice to see this one continuing to live on! 18 years old and about 130k miles and mine still runs and drives great!
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2021 | 03:11 PM
  #164  
Acura2g558's Avatar
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 279
Likes: 90
From: Vermont
First part review
Reply
Old Apr 24, 2021 | 12:54 PM
  #165  
Acura2g558's Avatar
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 279
Likes: 90
From: Vermont
Reply
Old Apr 24, 2021 | 02:14 PM
  #166  
zeta's Avatar
Suzuka Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 6,909
Likes: 2,211
From: S. Florida
^


The guy below kind of shows what you were explaining in regards to seal / piston insertion?

He has the added fitment of a metal 'snap ring', to secure the boot, for his MDX calipers, though.

Reply
Old Apr 25, 2021 | 04:08 PM
  #167  
Acura2g558's Avatar
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 279
Likes: 90
From: Vermont
Originally Posted by zeta
^


The guy below kind of shows what you were explaining in regards to seal / piston insertion?
Correct. Takes a bit to get correct
Reply
Old May 2, 2021 | 04:20 PM
  #168  
Acura2g558's Avatar
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 279
Likes: 90
From: Vermont
Originally Posted by zeta
^Hey Acura2g558, can you post a few detailed pictures of the new JSwapShop CL-S6 torque dampers when you get them?
Thanks!
I purchased these, but there were just too many differences to make me believe they would work. Travel was way off, the bottom bushing didn't seem correct at all.
Reply
Old May 2, 2021 | 04:28 PM
  #169  
zeta's Avatar
Suzuka Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 6,909
Likes: 2,211
From: S. Florida
Originally Posted by Acura2g558
I purchased these, but there were just too many differences to make me believe they would work. Travel was way off, the bottom bushing didn't seem correct at all.
Interesting.
Can you post a few pics scaled next to something?
From the pictures on his FB page I was able to determine they were 'golf cart' related, so?

Last edited by zeta; May 2, 2021 at 04:32 PM.
Reply
Old May 2, 2021 | 06:49 PM
  #170  
Acura2g558's Avatar
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 279
Likes: 90
From: Vermont
Originally Posted by zeta
Interesting.
Can you post a few pics scaled next to something?
From the pictures on his FB page I was able to determine they were 'golf cart' related, so?
Reply
Old May 6, 2021 | 09:59 AM
  #171  
zeta's Avatar
Suzuka Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 6,909
Likes: 2,211
From: S. Florida
Originally Posted by Acura2g558
I purchased these, but there were just too many differences to make me believe they would work. Travel was way off, the bottom bushing didn't seem correct at all.
Acura2g558, can you make that 'engine damper' video public so that we can observe your findings?
Reply
Old May 6, 2021 | 04:07 PM
  #172  
Acura2g558's Avatar
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 279
Likes: 90
From: Vermont
Rookie move

Try it now.
Reply
Old May 11, 2021 | 08:28 PM
  #173  
Acura2g558's Avatar
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 279
Likes: 90
From: Vermont
Reply
Old May 13, 2021 | 10:24 PM
  #174  
619rcr's Avatar
Burning Brakes
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 1,188
Likes: 670
From: AZ
Nice vid writeup.
Looked for dual piston Legend dual pistons and NSX Calipers on Rockauto a few months ago & they are no longer avail.
Reply
Old May 13, 2021 | 10:59 PM
  #175  
Keith Abner's Avatar
kykeith
 
Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 22
Likes: 7
From: near Lexington KY
cls6

Originally Posted by skater03CLS
Hey there! I am the only owner of a 2003 CL Type S. Very nice to see this one continuing to live on! 18 years old and about 130k miles and mine still runs and drives great!
I have 2 '03 cl type-s 6mt
, I drive trucks for a living, drive my 190k cls6 50 miles a day, 6 days a week. restoring a unicorn cls6 white on black with navi on the side.
Reply
Old May 14, 2021 | 06:05 AM
  #176  
Acura2g558's Avatar
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 279
Likes: 90
From: Vermont
Originally Posted by 619rcr
Nice vid writeup.
Looked for dual piston Legend dual pistons and NSX Calipers on Rockauto a few months ago & they are no longer avail.
In part 1 video I quickly cover how i had to get mine. I had to find them in a salvage yard and rebuild.
Reply
Old May 14, 2021 | 06:06 AM
  #177  
Acura2g558's Avatar
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 279
Likes: 90
From: Vermont
Originally Posted by Keith Abner
I have 2 '03 cl type-s 6mt
, I drive trucks for a living, drive my 190k cls6 50 miles a day, 6 days a week. restoring a unicorn cls6 white on black with navi on the side.
Nice! Many parts are still available from Acura. I highly recommend enthusiast snatch them up before they are all gone and get used for cars that will end up in the crusher. I got the last left muffler
Reply
Old May 14, 2021 | 04:42 PM
  #178  
Thefireball's Avatar
I am dumb
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 788
Likes: 208
From: Nashville, TN
Your brake caliper video was recommended to me on YouTube back when it was first posted, and I was curious as to why you decided to go with legend calipers and not the RL calipers?
Was going to ask it on YouTube originally, then I saw you were posting on here, lol.
Reply
Old May 15, 2021 | 07:05 PM
  #179  
Acura2g558's Avatar
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 279
Likes: 90
From: Vermont
Originally Posted by Thefireball
Your brake caliper video was recommended to me on YouTube back when it was first posted, and I was curious as to why you decided to go with legend calipers and not the RL calipers?
Was going to ask it on YouTube originally, then I saw you were posting on here, lol.
The RL calipers are an excellent option. I was looking for a more period correct replacement and the RL calipers just wouldn't give that look and I don't require the performance upgrade for the job the car is doing.
Reply
Old May 16, 2021 | 01:01 PM
  #180  
Thefireball's Avatar
I am dumb
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 788
Likes: 208
From: Nashville, TN
Originally Posted by Acura2g558
The RL calipers are an excellent option. I was looking for a more period correct replacement and the RL calipers just wouldn't give that look and I don't require the performance upgrade for the job the car is doing.
Makes sense, and I agree with you.
Reply
Old Sep 15, 2021 | 07:06 PM
  #181  
zeta's Avatar
Suzuka Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 6,909
Likes: 2,211
From: S. Florida
Hey Acura2g558, I just watched your 'crank no start' video and suspected it was the main relay assembly. Having had gone through this very same situation twice now down here in the heat of FL already. You are brave reflowing the solder versus purchasing new.

Regarding the crank sensors for the CL-S6, should you have the 'discontinued' transmission side one go on you (
37506-PGE-A12) you can substitute it with an OEM from many Honda models part # 37500-PNB-003 or from an Acura 02-06 RSX with the same number before having to resort to aftermarket, if there is even one available.


Reply
Old Sep 15, 2021 | 08:16 PM
  #182  
Acura2g558's Avatar
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 279
Likes: 90
From: Vermont
Originally Posted by zeta
Hey Acura2g558, I just watched your 'crank no start' video and suspected it was the main relay assembly. Having had gone through this very same situation twice now down here in the heat of FL already. You are brave reflowing the solder versus purchasing new.

Regarding the crank sensors for the CL-S6, should you have the 'discontinued' transmission side one go on you (
37506-PGE-A12) you can substitute it with an OEM from many Honda models part # 37500-PNB-003 or from an Acura 02-06 RSX with the same number before having to resort to aftermarket, if there is even one available.
Thanks Zeta, gold level knowledge as always! Do you know if there is a replacement for the discontinued cranks sensor for the one on the bottom of the timing belt?

I'm a bit brave for sure with the resolder, but oddly it hasn't reoccurred since that repair *knock on wood*

​​​​​thanks for watching the video ✌️
Reply
Old Sep 15, 2021 | 08:31 PM
  #183  
zeta's Avatar
Suzuka Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 6,909
Likes: 2,211
From: S. Florida
Originally Posted by Acura2g558
Thanks Zeta, gold level knowledge as always! Do you know if there is a replacement for the discontinued cranks sensor for the one on the bottom of the timing belt?

I'm a bit brave for sure with the resolder, but oddly it hasn't reoccurred since that repair *knock on wood*

​​​​​thanks for watching the video ✌️
When I search on 37500-PGE-A11 for that pulley side OEM crank sensor, it still comes up available on the Acura vendor sites?

However, RockAuto has some pricey aftermarket equivalents WVE$229.79; NTK$314.79 versus the OEM $92.41.

The pulley side crank sensor sub-harness, though, is 'discontinued' so we all have to be careful not to shred a timing belt and destroy what we have.

Reply
Old Sep 16, 2021 | 05:51 AM
  #184  
Acura2g558's Avatar
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 279
Likes: 90
From: Vermont
Originally Posted by zeta
When I search on 37500-PGE-A11 for that pulley side OEM crank sensor, it still comes up available on the Acura vendor sites?

However, RockAuto has some pricey aftermarket equivalents WVE$229.79; NTK$314.79 versus the OEM $92.41.

The pulley side crank sensor sub-harness, though, is 'discontinued' so we all have to be careful not to shred a timing belt and destroy what we have.
Good sleuthing, thanks. I hope they are still available.
With everything going on in the world a lot of the parts I've tried to word through online OEM parts have ended up being cancelled with the reason "backordered."
Reply
Old Oct 2, 2021 | 02:01 PM
  #185  
Acura2g558's Avatar
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 279
Likes: 90
From: Vermont
Reply
Old Mar 13, 2022 | 09:46 PM
  #186  
zeta's Avatar
Suzuka Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 6,909
Likes: 2,211
From: S. Florida

Acura2g558, don't know if you noticed; however, you can observe the PS fluid level in the reservoir fall sharply, just after start-up, at about the 08:11 time stamp on your 26Feb2022 video.
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2022 | 09:16 AM
  #187  
Acura2g558's Avatar
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 279
Likes: 90
From: Vermont
Originally Posted by zeta
Acura2g558, don't know if you noticed; however, you can observe the PS fluid level in the reservoir fall sharply, just after start-up, at about the 08:11 time stamp on your 26Feb2022 video.
This was the first start post the P/S pump rebuild video that I did. I expected a sharp drop initially, but little did I know the pump case cracked.

Reply
Old Mar 14, 2022 | 12:23 PM
  #188  
zeta's Avatar
Suzuka Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 6,909
Likes: 2,211
From: S. Florida
Originally Posted by Acura2g558
...but little did I know the pump case cracked.
So if the P/S case crack was in the general thread area of the 'red' arrow, would it be the result of, perhaps, over torquing the flow control valve cap when replacing the o-ring 'gasket' on your rebuild video??
Factory spec: 36lbf-ft seems like a lot for an aluminum case, though?


Reply
Old Mar 14, 2022 | 12:37 PM
  #189  
zeta's Avatar
Suzuka Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 6,909
Likes: 2,211
From: S. Florida
^
In addition, since the OEM and Rockauto one's are a little pricey, you may be able to just get away with replacing the p/s case?
Car-part.com has a couple $45 pumps available in Colchester, VT.
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2022 | 01:57 PM
  #190  
Acura2g558's Avatar
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 279
Likes: 90
From: Vermont
Originally Posted by zeta
^
So if the P/S case crack was in the general thread area of the 'red' arrow, would it be the result of, perhaps, over torquing the flow control valve cap when replacing the o-ring 'gasket' on your rebuild video??
Factory spec: 36lbf-ft seems like a lot for an aluminum case, though?

In addition, since the OEM and Rockauto one's are a little pricey, you may be able to just get away with replacing the p/s case?
Car-part.com has a couple $45 pumps available in Colchester, VT.
Well, you nailed it. I'm going to be releasing a follow-up video. I didn't have the proper tool at the time to torque down the flow control valve cap so I followed the German approach of "Goo-d and tiight" but the result was catastrophic failure. I like your recommendation of "car-part.com" but I found a LKQ 54k mile P/S pump near me and had it shipped for free. Needless to say, now i have the gaskets to rebuild it when it fails, but for now i should be good. Lessons learned.... funny thing is, I almost always use a torque wrench (if you follow my videos you can see that) and this is one of the very few times i didn't and oh did i pay.
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2023 | 09:55 AM
  #191  
zeta's Avatar
Suzuka Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 6,909
Likes: 2,211
From: S. Florida
Hey @Acura2g558 , just curious, where / when did you hear the claim you made, on your video below, that Acura / Honda were switching over to Mahle for almost all of their OEM sourced parts?

I used your video statement, on the thread below, to suggest an alternative to the OP for a thermostat he may need & as predicted there is 'push back', lol.
Thermostat. Rockauto or oem? - AcuraZine - Acura Enthusiast Community
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
rockstar143
Car Talk
3978
Dec 7, 2023 10:27 AM
M T L T L
2G RL (2005-2012)
4
Oct 9, 2013 06:43 PM
A418t81
Member Cars for Sale
4
Jul 2, 2012 05:19 PM
suspekt360
2G CL (2001-2003)
12
Dec 22, 2011 09:11 PM
The Negotiator
3G TL Photograph Gallery
25
Jul 20, 2010 01:06 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:18 AM.