Where else are the 260hp S-type motors and 5spd trannys (other than the Odyssey minivan) used in the Honda product line? I got excited when I figured out the NSX is also a 3.2L motor, but the Acura service advisor informed me the two motors are significantly, if not completely, different.

Also, if the CL-S debutted as an '01, when did the TL-S debut?

 

i take it youre not talking about the Jaguar S-type, but the Acura CL TYPE S.

anyways, the NSX i know is DOHC while the CLS and TLS engines are SOHC. the 5 speed tranny is also used in the Honda Accord. and the TLS came about in the 2002 model year.

thats what i know for sure. anyone else care to chime in with a more confusing and technical response?

 

The following have 60-degree V6 SOHC engines (with same basic block):

V6 Accord 3.0L

The CLS/TLS get the 3.2L block with same heads (260 hp).

THE CL/TL get the same block, but had other changes "up top".

THE MDX gets the 3.5L block (basically the same block but with different crank, rods, and pistons).


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THE NSX/RL are 90-degree V6 motors and are different...

THE NSX with its 90-degree configuration is quite different (DOHC, titanium rods, etc, etc)


I don’t remember the exact TLS date…

 

The motor that is found in the Odyessey V6, Accord V6, TL/CL, and MDX are from the J-series family of motors of Honda..all J-series are SOHC...one cam for intake and exhaust for each bank of cylinders. The Type-S motor is a J32A2 <---the 2 designating that it is the 260 hp version v. the 225hp J32A1.

The TL-S is an early 2002 model..while the CL was a late 2001.

The NSX is from a different family of motors...K-series I think...which are DOHC, dual overhead cams, one for intake and one for exhaust per bank of cylinders. The RL has a derivative of this motor, but is detuned signficantly.

 

interesting discussion

ive always wondered how the degrees term is used for motors...anyone help me out? how is a 90 degree engine different from 60?

i think ive seen a bunch of sport cars with 90 degree engines...is that true for all good sports cars, or just a hasty generalization?

thx

 

Don't forget the Odyssey & Pilot on the 3.5L block.

 

Moo: You're thinking of the C block (NSX, RL, Legend, early Accord V6). K block is the new I4 in the RSX, TSX, et al.

 

i would think its the degrees of the V in a V6 or V8 or so on....
like how the cylinders are angled in relation to eachother i guess.

o yeah, and while the NSX and RL are both C Block engines (apparently from what other posts say) the NSX is VTEC and the RL is NOT VTEC, hence the rediculous difference in power.

 

S-Type JAGUAR
> 3.0L w/235hp
> 4.2L w/293hp
> 4.2L R w/390hp

I think this is the ACURA forum, right?

 

Yes it has to do with the engine harmonics & balancing.

Typically 90 degrees is best for V-8's & 60 degrees for V-6 & V-12 motors. (or 180 degrees for a 6 or 12 )

There where more than a few 90 degree V-6's around in the 80's especially from domestic manufactures that essentially lopped 2 cylinders off a V-8 design to get a V-6.

 

ya oddessey the good ole' J35A4... anyway

...late 2001? the cl type S came out in march of 2000

 

The type I Legend motor also found its way into the G1 TL. The type II went into the gulag, which is unfortionate. It had 230hp which is more than the current RL. Pretty sorry for honda to step down the HP on it's flagship when they renamed to the RL.

 

What you talking about Willis??