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Old 02-13-2004 | 11:49 AM
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Rubbing w/ 235/45/17??

I searched, and found a couple people who WERE rubbing with a 235/45/17 tire on a CT drop.

Experiences??

I am about to get new tires this weekend, and want to hear some thoughts.

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Old 02-13-2004 | 12:09 PM
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Ask them about stock or aftermarket wheels (it makes a difference)

Ask them which brand of tires.

Also, ask them if they are using Koni shocks.

I know two people that had rub issues with 17x8" (+48) + 235/45-17s + CT springs and Konis.

Also, these were 01 and 02 Auto Type-S.
Old 02-13-2004 | 12:12 PM
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I have STOCK wheels running OEM shocks and CT springs. I want to install the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 235/45/17. Think it will rub, or if you have this setup are you rubbing??
Old 02-13-2004 | 12:21 PM
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You will be fine. I was running that for 6 months no problems.
Old 02-13-2004 | 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by greyjhu
I have STOCK wheels running OEM shocks and CT springs. I want to install the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 235/45/17. Think it will rub, or if you have this setup are you rubbing??
I don't think it will rub...

I'm not lowered, so I never rub with 17x8s + 235/45-17s.
Old 02-13-2004 | 12:35 PM
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During the summer, I frequently load up my car with 2 people in the back seat, and a trunk full of 150+ lbs of stuff. Think I'll have a problem in the rear?? Thanks-
Old 02-13-2004 | 01:23 PM
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I've heard of a couple people with 235/45/17s on 8 inch rims rubbing but I think there are a lot more that aren't. I have Comptech springs, Koni Yellows, 17X8 SSR Comps and 235/45/17s. No rubbing so far.
Old 02-13-2004 | 01:41 PM
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i have 17x8 on 235/45.
i rub once in a while.

i think i need to cut off the fender tabs.
Old 02-13-2004 | 02:02 PM
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my car has CT springs w/stock cl-s wheels,, no rubbing with 235 re750 bridgstones,,, have 8k miles on them
Old 02-13-2004 | 02:29 PM
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sweet... I'm really looking forward to getting them installed sunday!
Old 02-13-2004 | 09:21 PM
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I never rub on 235/45/17 with 17 x 8 50mm offset


I have decided toyo t1-s over pilots. ie better tire for our car

I do believe that is unanimous on this board..........
Old 02-13-2004 | 10:42 PM
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235 shouldn't rub... Mine never did...

Toyo T1-S, definitely...
Old 02-13-2004 | 11:56 PM
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Toyo T1-S might not have the "all-season" capabilities of the Pilot A/S, one reason why I think I'm going to go with the Michelin's. Also, I will have a 40,000 mile treadwear warranty with the Pilot A/S through Tire Kingdom/NTB/Merchant's Tire which isn't bad.

I may move up to New Hampshire for two years come this fall, and am looking for an all-season performance tire.

Sounds like the 235/45 will be fine, I look forward to Sunday-

Thanks for all your comments.
Old 02-14-2004 | 07:48 AM
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Originally posted by greyjhu

I may move up to New Hampshire for two years come this fall, and am looking for an all-season performance tire.
There's no such thing as an "all-season performance tire"... Don't fool yourself...
Old 02-14-2004 | 09:43 AM
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Originally posted by Technique
There's no such thing as an "all-season performance tire"... Don't fool yourself...
But aren't the Michelin Pilot A/S generally better performing in inclimate winter weather than performance tires?? They may not compete with snow tires, but certainly should provide better traction in snow and ice (I would think and comments I've read).
Old 02-14-2004 | 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by greyjhu
But aren't the Michelin Pilot A/S generally better performing in inclimate winter weather than performance tires?? They may not compete with snow tires, but certainly should provide better traction in snow and ice (I would think and comments I've read).
"Better" is a relative term... They are still horrible in snow/ice... so why bother?

all-season = good in no season
performance tire = good in summer
winter tire = good in winter

no such thing as an "all-season" tire...
Old 02-14-2004 | 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by Technique
"Better" is a relative term... They are still horrible in snow/ice...

all-season = good in no season
performance tire = good in summer
winter tire = good in winter
"Better" IS A RELATIVE TERM, so without question these Pilot A/Ss will be superior in snow/ice compared to a summer tire. I question your belief that they will be "horrible" in snow, because I don't think our OEM Michelins are that bad in wintry weather. They aren't good, but leaps and bounds better than a summer tire... they may not have the capabilities of a snow tire, but I don't want snow tires at this time, nor do I want strictly summer tires. I don't want to get fuc*ed and stuck in 1" of snow, climbing isolated hills just because I didn't have an all-season, and went with some low/no-snow-traction tires. I have a friend with Yokohama summer tires, and we got stuck in a parking lot with less than 1" of snow, and stability was awful around snowy corners compared to my stock OEM Michelin MXM4s.

It does not sound like you have driven a performance tire in the snow/ice before. And if you have, you haven't driven in snow/ice with a fairly descent performing all season. The all-season (such as the Pilot A/S) will move the car more easily through the snow, much more easily than a summer tire. I'm sure most everyone would agree that in the snow, an all-season would perform better than a summer tire.

Your statment that a performance tire is good in summer, a winter tire good in winter, and an all-season is "good in no season" or otherwise 'not good in any season' is a bit off IMO, but I could give a shit. You are exactly right, it is all relative.
Old 02-14-2004 | 02:35 PM
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Thanks for everyone's input!! As I now know my tire selection and (more importantly) that my tire size is appropriate, I will give everyone an update and review of my tires after several thousand miles.
Old 02-14-2004 | 03:03 PM
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greyjhu:

Actually, I drove with my current tires (which are performance tires), Pirelli P-zero nero in snow AND ice this winter here in washington DC. We had it all, snow, ice, wintery mix, slush, sleet, etc...

The tires were enough to get me around... I was able to climb hills, etc... They sucked ass, but they were enough for a few short trips... I would give them a 1 out of 10 for winter performance... I also drove with the stock michelin all-season tires a few years ago in the same weather here in DC (snow ice) and I would give those tires maybe a 2 out of 10, they sucked ass as well... So, for the extra little bit of snow grip they give me during the 1 month out of the year when we have snow/ice, it's not worth suffering with their horrible dry/wet performance for the other 11 months of the year...

Again, all relative and all personal tastes and it all depends on the area you live... But I'm happy with my summer-only tires (toyo or pirelli) here in my area where we get about 1-2 months a year of snow/ice because the rest of the time it's clear or raining, and during either of those, the T1-S and p-zero nero are TONS better than any all-season tire...

Old 02-15-2004 | 11:28 AM
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No rubbing with that size on stock rim
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