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Old 03-05-2011, 06:05 PM
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IIRC the Wilwood kit is about the same as the RL kit.

The spoke design makes a much bigger difference then the offset. But I doubt a low offset such as that would give you any issues.
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Clearance wise.
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Old 03-05-2011, 06:09 PM
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Good I was leaning towards the wilwood kit anyways since I don't have to part it together like the rl kit. I can't wait to have it smooth when I'm braking.
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Old 03-05-2011, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
Clearance wise.
i thought the wilwood kit was alot smaller.
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Yeah luckily I got the 2 piece Rotora kit. Rotors are pretty expensive though.
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Old 03-05-2011, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by p.diddy
i thought the wilwood kit was alot smaller.
IIRC speaking with E30 when we were first piecing this kit together, the Wilwoods were nearly the same. The Rotoras are definitely smaller.
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Old 03-05-2011, 08:59 PM
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^oh ok. i like the way the RL's look better.
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Old 03-06-2011, 12:00 PM
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ACURA > Wilwood writing IMO.
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I will do BBK this summer as soon as my founds permits.
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Originally Posted by StreetKA
I will do BBK this summer as soon as my founds permits.
U mean funds right... jst jokin

Originally Posted by civicdrivr
Heres a general rule of thumb:

If the wheels will work on a 3G TL 6MT or Type S, theyll clear the RL BBK. Just go with the less aggressive fitting wheels for TLs. The A-Specs for instance will clear, and they are +45mm and 8.5" wide (or 8" depending on the set you go with).

Im currently running 3G TL base five spoke wheels and they clear without a problem. IIRC the offset is +45mm and they dont rub. Ive run more aggressive wheels without problems.

19x8.5 +40mm RJ Devotions. No spacers, no rubbing up front using 235/35-19s.


18x8.5 +43mm Work CR-Kais. No spacers, no rubbing, using 235/40-18s.


17x7.5(?) +45mm TL Base wheels.
hey civicdrivr, nice pics for the illustration but u did not say if the 04 stock TL wheels cleared without rubbing like u did the other 2.
So is there rubbing with the 17x7.5(?) +45mm TL Base wheels + The RL BBK
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Old 03-08-2011, 06:37 AM
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So what is needed to make the NSX brakes or Legend brakes work, any need for a bracket or is it all plug and play?
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Old 03-08-2011, 12:13 PM
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No bracket. Just bolts up and use the cl pads and rotors
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No bracket. Just bolts up and use the cl pads and rotors
Are they that much better than the CL calipers or where do they rank between the Rotora 4 piston calipers and the OEM CLS calipers?
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Its an improvment over the stock one but nothing crazy.
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Originally Posted by streetka
its an improvment over the stock one but nothing crazy.
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Originally Posted by poisx7
hey civicdrivr, nice pics for the illustration but u did not say if the 04 stock TL wheels cleared without rubbing like u did the other 2.
So is there rubbing with the 17x7.5(?) +45mm TL Base wheels + The RL BBK
They dont rub.
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Old 03-09-2011, 10:48 AM
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Does anyone know if the Wilwood brake kit for a 2002-2006 rsx will fit? It's not as big as the kit fast brakes sells but it's a lot cheaper and it's a two piece rotor. Wilwood part number 140-7014-D let me know thanks.
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Which Wilwood BBK are better or talking bout for clearance the 12.6" or the 13"? And wouldn't the 350z rotors fit with the willwood?
i have stock size cross drilled rotors and those things warped too
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Old 03-27-2012, 11:46 PM
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I dont know what the disc offset is for the Wilwood kit, so the 350Z rotors may or may not fit.

They both require larger wheels.
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Wondering if the RL BBK would clear 19x8 48 offset RJ Legends
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Old 03-29-2012, 12:12 PM
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Nope.
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How about with some 5mm or 10 mm spacers
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Probably with the 10mm spacers.
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Old 03-29-2012, 04:27 PM
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I hate even thinking about all this bbk crap it gives me a headache lol. Perfect example why I haven't bought one yet. I still can't even decide what to do.
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A guy on the TL side bought the 3rd gen TL knuckles on his car for the brembo brakes.
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Yea, that seems to be the easiest swap for the automatic 3Gs.

The Brembos arent the same as the RL calipers though. The RL calipers are made by Advics.
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So is it that easy for us 2nd cl's to do the oem bbk that comes on the 07-08 tls? Which route would be better that or the rl bbk?
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Originally Posted by 1foxbody
So is it that easy for us 2nd cl's to do the oem bbk that comes on the 07-08 tls? Which route would be better that or the rl bbk?
From what I have read the RL bbk. The parts are cheaper and the performance is greater. If you are going to do BBK might as well get the most out of it IMO. Otherwise that is a lot of money for minor upgrades.
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So is it that easy for us 2nd cl's to do the oem bbk that comes on the 07-08 tls? Which route would be better that or the rl bbk?
The TL Brembos are inferior to the RL Advics.

The 3G TL-S knuckle doesnt have the same geometry as the CL-S knuckle either.
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Old 04-01-2012, 04:57 AM
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Alright so it looks like rl bbk it is!!
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Old 04-01-2012, 05:40 AM
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Just to double check and confirm I need to buy 05-08 rl calibers and rotors correct? Who do I buy the custom brackets from? I swear I remember reading a thread on here saying a guy made custom brackets, wasn't that nva paul?
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Paul aka NVA-AV6 makes the brackets.

The calipers are from the 05+ RL

The rotors are from an '05 350Z Track w/ Brembo brakes
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
Paul aka NVA-AV6 makes the brackets.

The calipers are from the 05+ RL

The rotors are from an '05 350Z Track w/ Brembo brakes
Thanks for the info! I'll start piecing together the kit soon..
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Check out AJ-USA.com for rotors/pads/brake lines. They usually run promotions on the main page + free shipping which comes in handy for heavy rotors.
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You'll probably want to upgrade the brake lines to stainless steel ones too, not sure if Morgan has this problem but I noticed my pedal got softer because of the added volume from going 1 piston to 4 piston. Don't forget fresh brake fluid too
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I noticed my pedal got softer because of the added volume from going 1 piston to 4 piston.
Kinda puts how big of an upgrade it really is into perspective doesn't it
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Its slightly softer, but it bites HARD.
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Originally Posted by 1foxbody
Just to double check and confirm I need to buy 05-08 rl calibers and rotors correct? Who do I buy the custom brackets from? I swear I remember reading a thread on here saying a guy made custom brackets, wasn't that nva paul?
I have the correct rotors for sale in black market if you are piecing this together
$175 for EBC 12.8" slotted

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This may sound stupid but why can't we use the oem rotors that come on the rl's is something different? Also how the hell did something find out 05 350z with brembo's work lol?

When I buy stainless steel brake lines do I still get them for a cl or do I have to get front rl brake lines?
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