My aunt got an RL and I got a little "test drive" in it. It is nothing I mean no low range pick up there was plenty of lateral give in the suspention not to mention verticle give you could probibly run over a small child and not know you had. As for the RL vtec I'll have to wait for it to get fully broken in.

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2001 Acura CL Type S "Claire" non-navi No spoiler. Bone stock, for now.

 

Umm... isn't that the point of buying an RL??? If I'm gonna buy a large car like that I want isolation baby!!! If I wanna feel the road, I'll cram myself into a 3 series


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2001 Acura 3.2CL Type S
Comptech Springs
Comptech Sway Bars
PIAA 19169

 

Exactly what I was thinking when reading that.



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2001 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S
San Marino Red / Parchment
non-nav - wheel locks - splash guards
#26519

 

I agree, except for the comment about the lack of pickup that’s probably exactly what they would they would want you to say.
I can imagine the average RL buyer would find the ride of a stock CL-S quite unacceptable.

Shawn S


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I saw a concept of the 2003 (?) Rl, it looked really tight, much more aerodynamic then the current model and a v8 engine...

g

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'01 Silver
TYPE-S Navi/Spoiler

 

The RL does not have VTEC...

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3.2TL with NAV

 

The RL engine is weak. It's a 3.5L V6 with only 210hp...ONLY 210HP!!! The CL-P has more than that for crying out loud. It's also heavy as hell...almost 3900lbs. I wouldn't be surprised if it does 0-60 in 8 seconds!

Alex

 

That is incorrect. The 2001 RL wears the same engine as the MDX. It does have VTEC and it also has dual stage intake runners.

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Gabriel
CL Type S

 

Thanks Gav, but....people come here to learn.....therefore, know your facts before posting.

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Ken
'01 Satin Silver CL-P
Performance: Headers, K&N Drop-In, Comptech Springs/Sways, 17" Borbet T's & Eagle RS-A's.
Other: Flaps, X-Pel Clear Bra, Cannon Mats, Polarg Accent Bulbs, & Burlwood Shift Knob.

Stock GTech: 7.15
Current G-Tech: 6.46

[This message has been edited by Satin01CL (edited 01-31-2001).]

 

The amount of hp really isn't the issue, the RL needs more torque! Although more hp should be added, larger/heavier vehicles need more torque than lighter/smaller ones, that's why larger cars usually have V8s.

My old '71 Impala weighed over 4000 lbs and had a 400ci small-block with only 225hp, but it had like 400lbs/ft of torque! It would move!



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2001 Acura 3.2CL Type-S
Satin Silver/Ebony
No Navi

35% tint/Wheel locks/Splash guards/PIAA 19169 bulbs/K&N 33-2178 air filter/Mobil-1 5W-30 oil & filter/One scratched rim

 

uh no, the rl does not have vtec, and it does not have a dual stage induction, it has a 3 stage induction.

the valvetrain is a 24-valve SOHC with hydraulic lash adjusters.

the mdx's valvetrain has Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control (VTEC™), 24 valve, SOHC and does not have a dual (or 3) stage induction system.

if you don't agree, show me anywhere (brochure, website, reputable magazine) that states the rl has vtec, 'cuz I checked and it just ain't there.

 

and the 2002 rl is supposed to have 225hp not because it is getting vtec, but because it is getting a variable exhaust something or other like the maxima has.

 

I agree about the VTEC, but you are still misinformed about the induction. The RL has VVIS (Variable Volume Induction System).

 

what do you think the 3 stage induction system does? it varies the induction volume.

the -s is also a variable volume thing, but it only has 2 stages.

(i'm not using the word runners 'cuz that caused a lot of confusion before on another topic).

this is from the acura site: "Programmed fuel injection (PGM-FI) with 3-stage variable induction system"

that's what the stages do, they change the volume depending to optimize engine "breathing" at different rpms...the rl has 3 stages, the -s has 2.

 

Before you go on with this.....I'm on your side. But if you must with the lessons from the brochure.....can you tell me what colors it comes in?

[This message has been edited by Satin01CL (edited 01-31-2001).]

 

i don't have the brochure, that's from the website.

but if you go to the 'type-s' link, it describes the 2 stage induction system and how the volume varies.

the rl just has 3 stages instead of 2.

 

i agree with you that it has vvis.

but that's just the name acura calls it. it's like variable valve timing, each manufacture calls it something different (vtec, vvti, vanos, etc.) 'cuz it's slightly differen't but does basically the same thing.

to get more generic, its like stability control, acura calls it vehicle stability assist (vsa), mercedes calls it esp (electronic stability programming), bmw calls it dynamic stability control (dsc), but all does the same thing with slight variations in each.

acura's vvis is a 3 stage induction system. mercedes has this on some cars and so does bmw, but they either don't name it or call it something else.

so unless you disagree with me that vvis is a totally different thing than the 3 stage induction system the rl has, we are in total agreement and the confusion is the terminology.

[This message has been edited by mrdeeno (edited 01-31-2001).]

 

As others have clarified, the 3.5L RL engine does not have Variable Valve Timing (VTEC in Hondaspeak).

On another note, the 3.5L MDX engine is totally different from the 3.5L RL engine. The MDX engine is related to the other J-block engines that include the Accord 3.0L V6/Acura 3.2CL/TL/CL-s engines. All these engines are 60 degree V6 engines and the displacement differences are due to differences in Bore/stroke.

The 3.5L RL engine is a totally different 90 degree V6 engine and has nothing to do with the J-block engine family.



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3.2TL with NAV

 

The RL also has a 4 coat 4 bake paint job to it. The tl only has a 2 coat 1 bake job. That would be one reason why the RL is so much more money than the TL or TL-S. It also has a Speed and torque sensitive, variable power-assisted, rack-and-pinion steering not just Speed only like the TL or just Torque Like the TL-S but both(never herd of this in any other car though ).And has Onstar as standard in the 2002 model. But I dont understand why it only has a 4 speed auto with no SS .

 

The new RL has 225 hp / 231 ft-lbs.of torque. This torque rating is pretty much the same as the CL/TL Type S, but the RL gets peak torque at a lower RPM. This is the important factor for this car. The RL gets up to speed quite respectively, considering it’s only a V-6 and it attempts to compete with the likes of Lexus LS400/430 and cars in that class. I agree that at least for people’s perception, this car needs a V-8, but for what it is, it’s an outstanding value and decent performer.

 

man, who dug this topic out from the dead?

 

also, it's made in japan.

 

The RL also doesn't seem to have all the squaks and rattles that plague the CL/TL