03 CL TypeS

I had a buddy with me in the car, and he was alone... older guy, in his 40's I would say.

We ended up almost side by side around 60mph, but I was slightly behind him. He punched it before I was ready, I shifted 3rd and punched it too, but it was way too late. He put a few carlenghts on me, as could be expected.

Had I been alone, in the right gear, and had we actually agreed on leaving on honk #3, it could have been much closer. Either way, a stock 06 GT is a mid 13 sec car, a whole second than my stock 03 CLS6.

Was fun nevertheless!

mrsteve

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Never seen a new GT hit mid 13s. Unless of course mid 13s = 13.8. Which is doesn't.

I can't wait to run one once I get the new CL.

darrinb

nice try

oneilc

Bah, its just a mustang. Not like there aren't 23094283591723489712389 other mustangs on the road for you to race.

03 CL TypeS

The new 05 GT's are mid 13 second cars, in the hands of the right driver.

A local guy here has had a 99 GT and an 03GT and he ran 13.777 and 13.8xx with each of them, respectively. Bone stock, with one headlight out. Many witnesses, runs are on video, so it's not some kind of internet rumor.

With 40 more hp and 20 more ft-lbs than the 99-04 models, I'm sure the 05 GTs can run mid 13s, but it takes a skilled driver, and they are quite rare.

wilp99

i raced a v6 05 stang, and kicked his ass. his was an auto tho.

Pure Adrenaline

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V6, auto or manual, is a complete joke.

Dem1K

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he's got a 3.0 though...plus the new v6 stangs run low 15's I believe, so good shit!

VeeralS05

i thought they were 14.0 flat...Thats what it says in my Car & Driver Mag.

falabarce

The Mustang is the american version of the Mexican VW Bug...you see 20 of them just by blinking an eye.

Ford tries too hard on making something old look new....and fails horribly. Thunderbird is a perfect example...I don't see what people see in that car...especially for the $40k+ tag it has....for that...I'll drop another $10k and buy myself a REAL car...like a 2006 RL.

VeeralS05

No offense...

But you cant compare a sports car to a luxury sedan...

Thunderbird....RL?

Come'on...you needa use better comparasions...


I think the ford mustang looks pretty good...not good enough for me to buy it. They just wanted to bring a old body style back and renovate it a bit and make it more appealing for this century...their sales seem pretty good so I'm sure its not as bad as you may think...But everyone has their own oppinions...I'm not trying to say your wrong or right...


But yeh the thunderbird did fail...but the mustang is doing much better than it..

FroOch

I'm no Ford fan but they've really put out some hot cars and trucks in the past 5 years. This new Mustang is a fine example of one of them. Just like any car it needs to be dropped to be beautiful but still, its a sharp car.

VeeralS05

I totally agree with ya...

That car does look pretty high...I think all the Mustangs were made with them looking like off road cars haha

oneilc

I hear that Ford is having a buy 1 get 10 free mustang sale. I used to buy a whole bunch of them to use as toilet paper but they rust too fast and it hurts my ass.

Mike

oneilc

oh gimie a break. i'm sick to death of seeing mustangs. every other asshole out there owns one.

"Hey guys I'm gonna be original and buy a mustang!"

03 CL TypeS

Sometimes "being original" isn't on the checklist for buying a car.

As far as Canada's concerned, it's the only modern age pony car still available on the market. The USA has the Stang and the Goat.

Joe5.0

The manuals are solidly in the 13's stock, and some great drivers have got 13.6's @ 102-103mph. The new mustangs really launch great, so they get really good et's for their mph. MT ran a convertible to a 13.8 @ 101mph, so with 250lbs less weight a coupe can be mid 13's. The autos arent slow either, they have very aggressive gearing and again launch very strong. I wouldnt be surprised if they hit 13's pretty easily.

fiveoh-tl

Ummmmm, ok.....cause Acuras are so uncommon. On the eastcoast there are afar more TL/CL's on the road than mustnags (old or new).

Mrsteve, there are plenty new '05's going mid 13s (13.4-13.6)....I've seen a vid on another site of one (w/ exhaust, slicks, CAI) run 11.9 @ 115.

03 CL TypeS

Every car brand/model has it's share of tunnel-visionned fans that fail to see that there are other cars out there in the world, that are excellent at other things. For example, the 5.0 foxbody is the best bang/buck drag racer money can buy. But you'd be hard pressed getting guys on Honda boards to admit that!

Mike

post a link!

btw, not all us have the 'rustang' attitude.

Pure Adrenaline

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Umm, the Thunderbird was based on the Lincoln LS luxury sedan chassis. They used the same frame, engine, drivetrain components, and even the same interior.

So a comparison between the RL and the Thunderbird is essentially a comparison between the RL and the Lincoln LS, which is a perfectly fair and valid one.

Pure Adrenaline

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Also, the Mustang survived because Ford is greedy and cheap.

The Mustang chassis was used for approximately 26 years. TWENTY SIX YEARS!! Ford saved hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars in R&D costs, which merited its survival. Their cost-saving strategy is very obvious in all of their performance cars; "Hmm, we don't have enough power out of this engine... let's just slap on a supercharger." Lightning, Cobra (Terminator motor), GT... It saves them a lot of money that way.

Ford just sucks all around. The new Mustang will suck, too. It won't flop like the Thunderbird, PT Cruiser, SSR, and other retro-style cars, simply because it's a mainstream car, but going retro was just stupid. It will be interesting to see the Mustang's sales figures for the next few years.

power3dfx

somehow i doubt that. if the car runs 103 mph at most when stock, how the hell did I/E give him 12 mph in the 1/4? I wont argue the et though that seems to low based on the mods, but rather make the argument that he needs much more than 300 whp to achieve that mph and i highly doubt an exhaust and cai would be enough.
can you post a link to that vid?
the 04 cobra puts down 340 or more at the wheels, and even with slicks, it wouldnt be able to run that fast!

Pure Adrenaline

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Agreed.

Joe5.0

So? Yeah the chassis is old, but it worked well enough to chase down C5's in a couple configurations, run single digit 1/4 times without too mny mods, and was easy to work on. They did make lots of changes over the years, but yes the basic structure stayed the same. Ask any real person if they care how old the chassis is, because if it works thats all that matters. Tell the guy with the foxbody that his chassis is old & dated, while he cleans up his class in SCCA. The mustang has never been about sophistication, its about bang for the buck and modability.

And I dont hear people bitching about MB "slapping superchargers" on everything. I guess the E55 is just a pile because it couldnt make 500hp NA. Could Ford have gone with more displacement w/o an SC for the Cobra/Lightning? Of course. Would the engines have forged internals and be about to make 700hp without taking the valve covers off? Probably not.

And the GT(40) competes with the SLR, which also has an SC. Guess MB has no idea how to make an engine.

Saying that Ford sucks because they can only make power with FI is like saying Allmotor's or MrSteve's car sucks because they needed FI to make 300+whp.

Horse power is all that matters, and fact is that Ford right now owns the affordable sports car market.

Pure Adrenaline

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Somehow, I expected you to chime in on this, Joe.

I understand where you're coming from, and I agree to a certain extent. I'll leave it at that. Our brand preferences are obviously different, and brand loyalty/preference arguments lead nowhere with no good endings.

Seattle Cl-S

Double agreed.

I haven't counted the new GT's out of the lineup for my next car...

numbaonestunna

Sure they can. Plenty of people with an '03 cobra (ported or pullied blowers) that are dipping deep into the 11's.


Check out below...

http://onfinite.com/libraries/124564/a6d.jpg

This with stock pulley (slicks, and solid stick conversion)

And here's a good driver with just a pulley, tune, and slicks...

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...d.php?t=184849

fiveoh-tl

Thank you....finally someone without blinders on. I think it's great that people are so brand loyal and love their cars, but some people totally lose touch with reality......these links can be found all over the web and these cars can be seen at every track around the country....sometimes it's better to go out and experience things (cars, racing, etc) and not just live in a fantasy world of computers.

Acuras are great cars.....I've got two.....why is it so hard for some of you to not bash other cars? It IS possible that there are other cars that are great too.

03 CL TypeS

Truer words have never been spoken, yet that's a fact that some will just never understand!

Seattle Cl-S

I've NEVER said anything bad about the Mustang. I just can't see a '05 Mustang with ONLY exhaust, slicks, and CAI running 11.9@115 when a bone stock one only traps 103mph. These mods actually gained 12mph in the 1/4????

Now, if you're talking about pullied Cobras running 11's then that's a whole different story. But your post implies that NA '05 GT's are running 11's w/ bolt-ons.

RUF87

Fords are okay . . .



okay, there are some that I really like


. . . . but deep down I've alway been a Chevy man first, then Mopar.

So no offense on my part, but I do like to pick on Fords . . . and Infinity, Nissian, Audi or anything else I've beaten or not owned . . . . .

Ruf