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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 07:29 PM
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Question on Steering.......

I wanted to know if there is anyway to make an 03 CL 6spd steering wheel feel tighter and more response as the new TSX's or TL's? Are these new TL's and TSX using different rack and pinion ratios compare to the CL?

I bring up this question because in the past two weeks over christmas break I had been in loaner cars(TSX and TL) due to service or warranty issues on my 3 cars. Something that I initially noted of the bat while driving these cars was the steering response, it just felt tighter on the loaner cars compare to my CL-s. Is it just in my head that notice this change.

Obviously, I know that my car is 4 yrs old and has the wear and tear factor (34485miles)on the suspension and sterring link, however I have all the CT suspension goodies on my CL and my car steering feels much loser/softer. In other words I will like to improve the steering angle response. I want to see if there is anything that can be done to CL to make it feel like those cars without costing an arm and a leg.

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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 07:41 PM
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the only thing I can really think of to tighten up your steering feel is to increase negative caster in the front wheels. I did that when I got an alignment and it tightens it up a bit but not to the extent you are hoping for. It all depends on how the power steering is boosted, and unfortunately our luxury cars are more boosted than the new TL/TSX.
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 08:05 PM
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I wanted to ask the same thing. Would the UR underdrive pulley set do anything to add to tightening the steering feel?
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 08:27 PM
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One of the biggest things in "turn in" is tire. One with a softer sidewall will roll a bit more before it takes a set going into the corner. I noticed a big difference between Kumho and Goodyear. Pressure will also make a difference.

Pulley size will not effect steering feel.
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 10:32 PM
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better tires and stiffer bushings is what comes to mind.
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Zippee
One of the biggest things in "turn in" is tire. One with a softer sidewall will roll a bit more before it takes a set going into the corner. I noticed a big difference between Kumho and Goodyear. Pressure will also make a difference.

Pulley size will not effect steering feel.
When you say a big difference b/w Kumho and Goodyear, which one is better?
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by o1s
better tires and stiffer bushings is what comes to mind.
Which bushings are we talking about? all of them or certain ones?
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dfv3.2CL-S
When you say a big difference b/w Kumho and Goodyear, which one is better?
Depends on what you call "better".

The Kumho was crisper on turn in and overall grip, but the stiff sidewalls made them ride like a wooden wheeled ox cart. For everyday driving I much prefer the Goodyears, and once you get used to the slower response I think they are just as good.

YMMV.
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 01:20 AM
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bushing in the control arms and whatnot. to a urethane or solid aluminum if you're really hardcore. i don't know if anyone even makes bushings for a cl though.
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 10:22 AM
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Moog suspension components for front end will tighten it - (response is combo of tires and suspension).....will make steering effort differ, if you like more effort and tight tracking - .... all cars will differ with age, changing swaybars, tire pressure.....etc.
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 10:34 AM
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bushing in the control arms and whatnot. to a urethane or solid aluminum if you're really hardcore. i don't know if anyone even makes bushings for a cl though.
Biggest problem is short life with solid bushings. On the street they won't make enough differece to tell.
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 11:11 AM
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Moog components are heavy-duty, not solid......
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Zippee
Depends on what you call "better".

The Kumho was crisper on turn in and overall grip, but the stiff sidewalls made them ride like a wooden wheeled ox cart. For everyday driving I much prefer the Goodyears, and once you get used to the slower response I think they are just as good.

YMMV.

You probably should specify what size/model of Kumho's you have. Obviously, an upsized wheel, and a dry performance tire will handle differently than the stock all season tires no matter what brand they are.
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 07:37 PM
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get the front strut bar. made my steering wheel so tight for the tsx lol.
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