Power steering fluid exchange
#4
Power Stearing Fluid Change
How often should you change your power stearing fluid. I have an '03 CL with 70K miles on it an it's never been done. I don't see it as part of the maintenance schedule so I'm wondering if ever needs to be done.
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it doesn't hurt to do, my buddy did mine at his shop and I noticed a more improved steering response, and the fluid that came out was disgusting. It's a bit of a pain, where you have to cycle fluid through and suck out the old fluid bit by bit, and requires a lot of turning the wheel back and forth, but man is it worth it.
#6
What about just removing as much of the old fluid as I can from the resevoir and replacing it with new fluid. Then after driving for a day or two, repeat. This will likely get most of the old stuff out, right?
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I've done that a couple times and my old fluid is black, draining the reservoir and adding the new fluid didn't make a difference at all.
I recommend disconnecting the reservoir, and having one hose drain into a bucket and another going into a thing of new fluid, start the car when the fluid going into the drain bucket looks like new, turn off the car, reconnect everything and top it up.
This way you get alllll the bad fluid out of the system
I recommend disconnecting the reservoir, and having one hose drain into a bucket and another going into a thing of new fluid, start the car when the fluid going into the drain bucket looks like new, turn off the car, reconnect everything and top it up.
This way you get alllll the bad fluid out of the system
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I'm tellin ya, the best way is to go to a shop where they use a fluid exchanger
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The process that I described is comparative to what they do at a shop
And aznboi, to put it in perspective changing the reservoir for the coolant and saying that you changed the fluid would be similar. Not saying that your wrong, there would be a slight difference but if your taking the reservoir off anyways why wouldnt you change out all the fluid?
And aznboi, to put it in perspective changing the reservoir for the coolant and saying that you changed the fluid would be similar. Not saying that your wrong, there would be a slight difference but if your taking the reservoir off anyways why wouldnt you change out all the fluid?
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Does anyone know how much fluid is in the system??
The three bottles may be a lot or it may be minuscule depending how much is in there, but that method sounds pretty good.
The three bottles may be a lot or it may be minuscule depending how much is in there, but that method sounds pretty good.
#16
nersh is correct, changing out the entire system is best. I did this on my wifes TL recently and it should be the same. I posted this in the TL forum to help someone out. It shouldn't take as much fluid as mine did, mine was redish cause some idiot put something other than honda fluid. it took me 16 bottles to get it clean and even then there might of been some bad fluid between the PS sensor to the reservoir, which i heard starts working after around 30mph. these were the steps i took:
1.Drain your reservoir with a pump. I just used a pump from a sanitizing bottle.
2. disconnect the big hose from the reservoir and connect it to a clear hose ( so you can see whats going on) its a 5/8 ID and you will need a 5/8 union to connect the hoses together. Run the hose to a bucket < fill bucket w/ clean Honda PS fluid.
3. disconnect the 2 smaller hoses on the reservoir and kinda do the same as step 2. this time you will need a T union. connect the 2 hoses that went to the reservoir to the T union and and run a clear hose (3/8 ID) from the last nipple/out on the union to another bucket< dirty fluid will spill into this bucket
4. jack up the front tires if you want to make steering easier. have someone turn the car on and immediately turn the wheel all the way left then right and continue the steering until you see clean fluid come out the small hose. Or if you know for sure there is only honda PS in your system fluid all you will need is maybe 6 bottles to flush the whole thing. but i dont see why you need to flush the whole thing unless it looks real dirty.
when you run low on fluid stop and fill and do it again. Its actually really easy.
1.Drain your reservoir with a pump. I just used a pump from a sanitizing bottle.
2. disconnect the big hose from the reservoir and connect it to a clear hose ( so you can see whats going on) its a 5/8 ID and you will need a 5/8 union to connect the hoses together. Run the hose to a bucket < fill bucket w/ clean Honda PS fluid.
3. disconnect the 2 smaller hoses on the reservoir and kinda do the same as step 2. this time you will need a T union. connect the 2 hoses that went to the reservoir to the T union and and run a clear hose (3/8 ID) from the last nipple/out on the union to another bucket< dirty fluid will spill into this bucket
4. jack up the front tires if you want to make steering easier. have someone turn the car on and immediately turn the wheel all the way left then right and continue the steering until you see clean fluid come out the small hose. Or if you know for sure there is only honda PS in your system fluid all you will need is maybe 6 bottles to flush the whole thing. but i dont see why you need to flush the whole thing unless it looks real dirty.
when you run low on fluid stop and fill and do it again. Its actually really easy.
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Ive been thinking about doing this. Thanks for the tips.
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I did the battery tester plunger thing (basically a skinny turkey baster) sucked out as much as I could, filled it back up, started it, turned the wheels a few times, sucked out the fluid again and replaced. Not perfect, but changed out most of it an much clearer now. Not exactly what the manual recommended, but it works.
#20
This is what ALLDATA says to do to flush the power steering fluid for a 98-02 Accord, which should be pretty similar. It basically says to disconnect the return house and have it dump into a bucket, turn the steering wheel lock to lock, and when there is no more fluid coming out, turn the car off and reconnect the hose and fill up the fluid. it doesn't say that you have to continually be putting in fluid as its coming out. Does this sound right? I don't know if the seals would get damaged by not having any fluid in it for a little while.
1. Raise the reservoir, then disconnect the return hose (A) to drain the reservoir. Take care not to spill the fluid on the body and parts. Wipe off any
spilled fluid at once.
2. Connect a hose (B) of suitable diameter to the disconnected return hose, and put the hose end in a suitable container.
3. Start the engine, let it run at idle, and turn the steering wheel from lock-to-lock several times. When fluid stops running out of the hose, shut off the
engine. Discard the fluid.
4. Reinstall the return hose on the reservoir.
5. Fill the reservoir to the upper level line.
6. Start the engine and run it at fast idle, then turn the steering from lock-to-lock several times to bleed air from the system.
7. Recheck the fluid level and add more if necessary. Do not fill the reservoir beyond the upper level line.
1. Raise the reservoir, then disconnect the return hose (A) to drain the reservoir. Take care not to spill the fluid on the body and parts. Wipe off any
spilled fluid at once.
2. Connect a hose (B) of suitable diameter to the disconnected return hose, and put the hose end in a suitable container.
3. Start the engine, let it run at idle, and turn the steering wheel from lock-to-lock several times. When fluid stops running out of the hose, shut off the
engine. Discard the fluid.
4. Reinstall the return hose on the reservoir.
5. Fill the reservoir to the upper level line.
6. Start the engine and run it at fast idle, then turn the steering from lock-to-lock several times to bleed air from the system.
7. Recheck the fluid level and add more if necessary. Do not fill the reservoir beyond the upper level line.
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On thing that happened to me when changing my timing belt... moving around the PS pump created small cracks in the PS suction hose allowing air to enter the system causing a foaming overflow. The hose never dripped any fluid, but still allowed air in. Good thing was it was a pretty easy fix. Chances are this may happen when moving the reservoir around.
#22
This is what ALLDATA says to do to flush the power steering fluid for a 98-02 Accord, which should be pretty similar. It basically says to disconnect the return house and have it dump into a bucket, turn the steering wheel lock to lock, and when there is no more fluid coming out, turn the car off and reconnect the hose and fill up the fluid. it doesn't say that you have to continually be putting in fluid as its coming out. Does this sound right? I don't know if the seals would get damaged by not having any fluid in it for a little while.
1. Raise the reservoir, then disconnect the return hose (A) to drain the reservoir. Take care not to spill the fluid on the body and parts. Wipe off any
spilled fluid at once.
2. Connect a hose (B) of suitable diameter to the disconnected return hose, and put the hose end in a suitable container.
3. Start the engine, let it run at idle, and turn the steering wheel from lock-to-lock several times. When fluid stops running out of the hose, shut off the
engine. Discard the fluid.
4. Reinstall the return hose on the reservoir.
5. Fill the reservoir to the upper level line.
6. Start the engine and run it at fast idle, then turn the steering from lock-to-lock several times to bleed air from the system.
7. Recheck the fluid level and add more if necessary. Do not fill the reservoir beyond the upper level line.
1. Raise the reservoir, then disconnect the return hose (A) to drain the reservoir. Take care not to spill the fluid on the body and parts. Wipe off any
spilled fluid at once.
2. Connect a hose (B) of suitable diameter to the disconnected return hose, and put the hose end in a suitable container.
3. Start the engine, let it run at idle, and turn the steering wheel from lock-to-lock several times. When fluid stops running out of the hose, shut off the
engine. Discard the fluid.
4. Reinstall the return hose on the reservoir.
5. Fill the reservoir to the upper level line.
6. Start the engine and run it at fast idle, then turn the steering from lock-to-lock several times to bleed air from the system.
7. Recheck the fluid level and add more if necessary. Do not fill the reservoir beyond the upper level line.
Last edited by specvspeedfreak; 03-28-2010 at 08:34 PM.
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