Pontiac on Thursday unveiled the ninth generation of its Grand Prix for the 2004 model year at the Texas State Fair in Dallas. Pricing has not been released.

The automaker has eliminated the base model SE for 2004, and instead will offer a 200-hp V6-powered GT, and a 250-hp GTP and GTP with a competition group package.

The competition package includes 17-inch wheels, tuned suspension and Stabilitrak Plus, which helps keep the car stable in high-speed maneuvers and harsh conditions, and TAPshift (TAP stands for Touch Activated Power), which can switch the car from automatic transmission to manual with a Formula One-style paddle lever on the steering wheel.

Twin-styled dual exhaust outlets will be standard on all models, as well as larger 16-inch and 17-inch wheels and tires. The car is the same size as the model it replaces.

Inside, the cockpit will include larger analog gauges, and radio and air conditioning controls are now flush with the dash.

 

Is this going to be the first GM car to have a steptronic type of transmission? Regardless... paddle levers on the steering wheel. Sounds pretty slick. Hope it works well.

I actaully like the look of it. I just wonder if Pontiac will ever move away from their butt-nasty interior styling...

 

It's a pontiac. 'Nuff said.

 

It's ok looking I guess. I tought that car was going to get more horsepower Basically the engine is the same with just different electronic shit. It also looks heavier than the previous GTP model.

 

so now it looks like a bonneville. And i bet you that the transmission still has 4 speeds.

 

:thumbsdn: still looks like

 

yeah, what the fuck?? the version of that car on the car show circuit had 280 hp and 280 torque....it was cool as hell, on the motor, it had a cover that said "280 X 2" it was nice...this production model looks VERY similar but they got rid of the slotted, cross drilled brakes and 19 inch wheels, there was also some carbon fiber on the back bumper and front bumper that this doesnt have...the interior of the car show model was a 2 + 2 seating arrangement like our car, really slick looking, futuristic interior, MUCH MUCH better than the currect pontiac styling, i wonder how much of that awesome interior made it into this production version.....man, i gotta say though, im dissapointed with the HP drop...they should have stuck with the 280....haha, oh well, either way, it will still smoke our cars!!!

 

at least theres no body cladding!!!!!

 

Doesn't look to bad. But like jim, i too was expecting a HP increase.

 

I don't know about it smoking us now stock vs stock. I thought our cars look like boats. That has got too way more than us. The cool thing about that car is the tailpipes. I like those for some reason.

Jim - Show a pic of the one you were talking about.

 

i cannot hate on that car because it is the poor mans's CL-S

 

thoro, the current gen GTP's do 14.5 stock on a regular basis....some even lower, and of course, some higher but 14.5 is the norm...thats better than a CL-S.

go to the following link and click on the left column where it says

"grand prix G-force"

http://www.pontiac.com/pontiacjsp/pa...ncept/main.jsp

THATS the car i saw at the car show, it was amazing.

 

by the way, that link has detailed info and pics about the G Force show car....i really am dissapointed with the HP drop from 280 to 250..thats lousy

 

Check out the dinky spoiler-thingy on the trunk ahahahahaha

That's pretty nasty looking. Ugh.

Looks all out-of-proportion or something.

And no 280/280? Shame.

I guess they don't want it competing with their 2door Grand Prix, the GTO.

 

Damn the G-Force one looks seemed like it would have been a hot competitor in the market for sport sedans. Too bad they slept on the engine.

Now in other news....I think the GTO is the hottest looking pontiac they have ever created.

 

What's up with the dinky little spoiler?

 

Clearly they should fire their designers and promote their concept advertisement artists to designers. That concept looked HOT.

 

that spoiler was meant for a PowerWheels

 

it's funny you guys are talking about this. cause my girlfriend wanted to get a 02 or 03 (new) Grand Prix and I said you can do what you want since it your money.(she's been test driving various cars) I'd like for you to get an V-6 Accord but if your hung up on the Grand Prix at least wait till next fall when the new model hits the floors.so she decided for a couple reasons to hold up till next year to start shopping for a car
#1. what i said above
#2. the Honda dealer will deal more on 2nd year of the model compared to a new Accord model.
#3. she'll have more of a down payment so she'll have a little more pull when she goes to buy .

plus I'm still trying to convience her to get a GTP cause she just wants a GT.:P

 

more info and pic of interior.....

http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=5356

 

It'll make a good rental, at least I can have some fun when I travel.

 

I don't think GM can ever do anything well.

 

the gto is nice

 

AMEN!

 

Ya its a Pontiac but my dad has one from his old company and man does it fly. Its an 2000 GTP. I've been driving it since my CL is in the shop. The torque is nice to have every once in a while.

 

From my Knowledge the horsepower on the standard GTP is 250. However The G-Force GTP is still to have the 280x2. Check it out www.grandprix.net. I like your forum on the acuras. Looked at some before my GP. NIce nice cars. but just thought i would let u all know. Also Detroit is toying with a 4.0L v-8 for 2005 in the GTP not sure but word is 300-330 HP. Althought i would have to agree on one thing or 2,3 the bonneville look, no 2 door, and the rear end looks alike audi a lil bit on the new ones (tailites and trunk lid) ah well it will grow on me prob

Monkeymatos....What state you in that they get mad for 12%. i got 5 and no probs. but my state is more worried about paving the entire mother.

 

hell yea, more pontiacs to smoke on the road!!!! gtp cant touch a cl-s.

you cant be serious

 

i'm at 500 posts!!!!!

 

501, dummy

 

OK. I came here to talk about cars. So I'M gonna talk about cars. Your CL-S are pretty quick. Quicker than my GT. Dont have any numbers on my car cuz i dont have time to race it but i have fun with a lot a honda and eclipse running around town. But CL-S #'s to a GTP #'s are funny. On the the CL-S side any ways. Your talkin a bout a modded car running in the high or mid 13's. There are GTP's running low 12's. Yeah outta V6. Most V8's dont think about that. So if you want something to check out. here ya go. www.3800performance.com. Maybe there is some information there that co-corelates wiht your cars.??? But i have become more interested in your cars. If you want something non supercharged there is a grand prix running 14.50 outta GT?! pretty good i think.

 

GTP headers are for $730 and this is for nikel-plated.... So your got your GTP-Comptech... and yeah they are called "the other guys" headers....

 

Did this last post miss something? I am confused. What does it have to do with anything?

 

Oh I meant to say some of the GTP mods are expensive like Comptechs...

 

yeah i agree with that... in fact what isnt expensive??
But 1 thing to consider is that the motors our cars run have just in the past 10 years started to be consider "high performers" so there are these new companys designing stuff and controllingthe market. where as a 5.0 mustang for 350 chevy there are a trillion of those out there. i guess when you have something new and different you just gotta spill some green

 

shit do we have to do the gtp vs. cls thing again? we did this like 6 or 8 months ago, and nothing got resolved...

 

I think that the Grand Proix hgas looked the same for years.. the minor exterior changes don't do anything fir me!!! Now the GOAT (GTO) fir you who don't know looks hot, but I am sure it will be a disappointment!

 

Is it just me or does it look pretty much the same? Now that G-force is a slick lookin car. Why didnt they make that?

 

the top picture looks like a stratus

 

Man... that's such a shame. That concept is pretty hot, but the production is nasty. Interior is getting better... but still kind of blah....

 

the G-Force had kick ass 2 + 2 bucket seats, better than the CL-S seats if you ask me, they looked to be suede as well! also, the G-Force had a nice looking NAVI system, etc....this production version really skimped out on the good stuff of the G force, MOST IMPORTANTLY they skimped out on the HP and TOURQE!! why wet everyones whistle with 280 hp and then dissapoint with only 250..what a shame