Once again, Comptech vs. Eibach info request...

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Old May 14, 2001 | 06:02 PM
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Once again, Comptech vs. Eibach info request...

OK, I still can't make up my freaking mind! Comptech or Eibach? I know this topic has been discussed repeatedly, but I haven't been able to see the Pro-Kit drop in person, so I was wondering if someone had pics of CL-Ss with Comptechs and the Pro-Kit side-by-side. I'd really like to see close-ups comparing the front wheels and then the rear wheels. If it isn't too much to ask, when people using these springs get together could you please get us some comparison pics. I know I'm not the only one that would like to really see the difference between these two springs as people are always asking about them.
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Old May 14, 2001 | 06:08 PM
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Some food for thought...

Well, do you want even drop or rake look?
Comptech will give you a rake look whereas Eibach will be more even. Copmtechs are more expensive. Eibachs drop the car lower then Comptech.

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Old May 14, 2001 | 06:13 PM
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also I have been hearing things about having to adjust the headlights to accommodate for the lowering. Does that happen with both brands ? or is it necessary at all

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Old May 14, 2001 | 06:13 PM
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http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000237.html

here's the link I posted couple months ago. and a pic from october of last year when I took pics w/ JZ. his car is lowered w/ ct and mine was stock at the time.

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Old May 14, 2001 | 06:27 PM
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here is some info i found but its for the
Eibach pro-Kit vs. H&R, this was done with a BMW. But I think its good for reference.

http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/t...bach_hr_rd.htm

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Old May 14, 2001 | 06:28 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Big_Pimp's_Type_S:
Some food for thought...

Well, do you want even drop or rake look?
Comptech will give you a rake look whereas Eibach will be more even. Copmtechs are more expensive. Eibachs drop the car lower then Comptech.

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Well that's where I get complicated, I would prefer the Eibach's even drop, but the more I see and hear about the Comptechs, the less the rake bothers me. I just like the idea of the Comptech's b/c they supposedly don't throw your alignment off by much, if anything, and give the car a nice drop without giving you too much trouble clearing parking markers, curbs, speed bumps, etc. I wanna see just how much of a difference in appearance there is between the two before I make up my mind. From what's been said, the Pro-Kit doesn't really give much trouble either, but the responses aren't as convincing as the ones for the Comptechs. I just don't want to go with the Comptechs and then see a Cl with the Pro-Kit and completely regret it and have to waste even more money to change to the Pro-Kit.
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Old May 14, 2001 | 06:56 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Rod:
giving you too much trouble clearing parking markers, curbs, speed bumps, etc</font>
I have the pro-kit on my type-s and have not hade any trouble with speed bumps or curb markers. The worst i have experienced is trying to drive up an steeply inclined driveway........got to do it in reverse.

Otherwise, i love the pro-kit. I have had a couple of my buddies drive my car (they have a type-s with comptechs) and they say that the car handles better than theirs.



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Old May 14, 2001 | 07:11 PM
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Woah, in reverse. How steeply inclined, Quick Silver? I'm guessing (hoping) this is on a very rare occasion at most. I noticed you also have some added weight with the two 10s, which is what I plan on doing right after the springs, do you have any pics? You're on stock wheels right? People have said no tire rub with the Pro-Kit, do you get any, even with 4 people in the car and maybe some extra weight in the trunk? I saw a CL-S last weekend at South Beach, maybe someone from this forum, and the rear wheels tucked into the fender b/c he had passengers in the car. It was a black CL-S that cruised by Wet Willies at least twice. I really don't like the tucked in look on this car.
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Old May 14, 2001 | 07:55 PM
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i am the definitive expert in this field and here it is but its been said pretty simply already....FIRST comptech does not thats NOT make any springs and the comps werent designed with your car in mind...i wouldnt be at all surprised if Eibach made them for them.and they do have IMO alot of rake something in the neighborhood of 1.5 to 1.7 front but just 1.0 rear...now the prokit is lower yet at about 1.8 front BUT big butt (thats funny )1.5 to 1.7 rear so a much more evenly dropped look and less need to realign headlights...now theres on more option and this ones weird the H&R o.e.'s are 1.0 fornt and 1.5 rear ya maybe 1.35 it all depends on how much gas you have in the tanks thats part of why there are some variables in all these numbers...but for the sake of argueing 1.5 with full tank rear from H&R oe ...if you were to find someone like my self to go in with you if you wanted the 1.5/1.5 you could go comp front and H&R o.e.rear...sorry so long hope this helps

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Old May 14, 2001 | 08:11 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by typeR:
...FIRST comptech does not thats NOT make any springs and the comps werent designed with your car in mind...

...now theres on more option and this ones weird the H&R o.e.'s are 1.0 fornt and 1.5 rear ya maybe 1.35 it all depends on how much gas you have in the tanks thats part of why there are some variables in all these numbers...but for the sake of argueing 1.5 with full tank rear from H&R oe ...if you were to find someone like my self to go in with you if you wanted the 1.5/1.5 you could go comp front and H&R o.e.rear...sorry so long hope this helps

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Thanks for the info, but no springs were designed with our cars in mind, except for the Intrax, I believe, and everyones says they suck anyway. All other springs are Accord or TL springs.

I don't know if combining different types of front and rear springs as you suggest is such a great idea, but what do I know. I wouldn't go with this idea though b/c as you posted in some other thread, the H&Rs you're using give you a drop that isn't too noticeable, which is the look you wanted. I, on the other hand, want a noticeable drop appearnace-wise b/c I hate the SUV look on the CL.
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Old May 14, 2001 | 08:18 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Rod:
Woah, in reverse. How steeply inclined, Quick Silver? I'm guessing (hoping) this is on a very rare occasion at most. I noticed you also have some added weight with the two 10s, which is what I plan on doing right after the springs, do you have any pics? You're on stock wheels right? People have said no tire rub with the Pro-Kit, do you get any, even with 4 people in the car and maybe some extra weight in the trunk? I saw a CL-S last weekend at South Beach, maybe someone from this forum, and the rear wheels tucked into the fender b/c he had passengers in the car. It was a black CL-S that cruised by Wet Willies at least twice. I really don't like the tucked in look on this car.</font>
Rod, did the black CL-S had a wing? IF not, it might be me, I was in south beach and i usually go to the grove to wet willies and sandbar.



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Old May 14, 2001 | 08:25 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by X3.2CLSX:
Rod, did the black CL-S had a wing? IF not, it might be me, I was in south beach and i usually go to the grove to wet willies and sandbar.

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It did have a wing b/c I was checking it out since I was thinking of getting a wing on mine. I'm usually at Sandbar, Fat Tuesdays, and Wet Willies in the Grove at night too. but in the day I'm usually at the Wet Willies on the beach, but I never cruise down Ocean, I just park as close as I can and go get some drinks.
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Old May 14, 2001 | 08:26 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Rod:
It did have a wing b/c I was checking it out since I was thinking of getting a wing on mine. I'm usually at Sandbar, Fat Tuesdays, and Wet Willies in the Grove at night too. but in the day I'm usually at the Wet Willies on the beach, but I never cruise down Ocean, I just park as close as I can and go get some drinks.</font>
Ok....it wasnt me then.



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Old May 14, 2001 | 10:04 PM
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The way I see it except for one guy here who installed the Comptech's and removed them because he wanted none, zero, nada, change in ride whatsoever, nobody I know of here who has had them installed, has ever said about Comptech springs anything bad, confusing, doubtful or in need of some tweak or modification. Unless I missed something, if properly installed* there has been no expressions of regret. I'm not sure who makes the springs for Comptech but, as far as I know, Comptech is the only spring dealer that markets them for the CL/TL. (somebody correct me if I'm wrong). At least we know that Comptech has put their springs on our cars and sells them for our car models.

I remember going to pick up my car after having the springs/sways installed and having this shit-eatin huge grin on my face when I saw how aggressive the car looked from the front. It ain't to bad from any other view either.

*If properly installed. The Comptech right side and left side springs are made slightly different to account for the drivers weight. Also any other problems have usually been from the springs not having the rubber insulators in the proper position to stop any noise.

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Old May 14, 2001 | 10:28 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Al Uminum:
The way I see it except for one guy here who installed the Comptech's and removed them because he wanted none, zero, nada, change in ride whatsoever, nobody I know of here who has had them installed, has ever said about Comptech springs anything bad, confusing, doubtful or in need of some tweak or modification. Unless I missed something, if properly installed* there has been no expressions of regret. I'm not sure who makes the springs for Comptech but, as far as I know, Comptech is the only spring dealer that markets them for the CL/TL. (somebody correct me if I'm wrong). At least we know that Comptech has put their springs on our cars and sells them for our car models.

*If properly installed. The Comptech right side and left side springs are made slightly different to account for the drivers weight. Also any other problems have usually been from the springs not having the rubber insulators in the proper position to stop any noise.

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Eibach is also marketing the Pro-Kit for the CL-S now, they updated their catalog/website. And no one with Eibachs has complained either, at least that i know of, they're both good springs without a doubt, I just can't decide between them.

I thought that the Comptechs, and all other springs for that matter, didn't distinguish between the two front springs. Supposedly only the stock ones do, so the car comes uneven from left to right up front from the factory.
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Old May 14, 2001 | 10:36 PM
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I stand corrected about Eibach recent update. The only concern then should be whether Acura will honor warrantee issues with Eibach as it says it does with Comptech? Anybody know?

As for any difference in aftermarket springs and spring rate between left and right I remember the Comptech's were marked either with different spring rates or left or right for each side of the car. It's been a while so I cannot remember exactly.

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Old May 14, 2001 | 11:02 PM
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Well the springs won't void the warranty unless Acura can prove that they are the direct reason for whatever damage is caused to the vehicle, besides, I'm getting whichever springs I go with (Comptechs or the Pro-Kit) installed at the dealer, and they warranty the installation. They say that the Pro-Kit doesn't throw the alignment off by much either, but that the Comptech's seem to be a better fit. Maybe they just say this since if I go with the Comptechs I'll buy them directly through the dealer and making them more money. They said I could probably get a better price on the Eibachs online and then take them to them for installation. They'll match prices on the Comptechs though.
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