For anyone who is running Nitrous or Water Meth , post your setups here .

Picutres of the tank and where you mounted it
Where you tapped into for the fuel rail
Where your switch is inside the car
What kind of track times/hp gains/torque gains you aquired
Etc...

I'm curious and have not seen much details from the few who run it . I figured an official thread would help sort some of my questions and or others in the future.

Has anyone ran it in an auto yet ? Should I be the first in that case ?


Post up !

 

I beleive youngone501 ran a 300 shot in his auto tl s quite a few times before the engine died

 

I've been running nitrous for over a year now on my auto

 

Ill post my set up later. cause today is my bday and all my friends want to hangout

 

Few things I have to say since running in the nitrous game and seeing first hand how the J-series responds to nitrous...

If you're running anything over a 150-200 shot, run a meth injection setup. The combustion temps in theses 10.5:1 CR motors get very high! Especially with not being able to adjust timing. That leads me to my next important thing:

Timing. The end result of improper timing brings about something called detonation which is really the first thing one should be trying to avoid while spraying. Unfortunately, unless you have super sonar ears or a means to monitor knock (if it even picks it up...) by monitoring a datastram, there's no way of detecting this. Even if you're running a AF ratio meter. It takes a momentary split second to bend a rod and then throw it out the block (I plead the 5th).

Pressure. For both nitrous and fuel, it is extremely critical that one either always watch these two pressures while spraying or atleast have a monitoring system/safety switch hooked up...preferably the latter. Either of these dropping too low WILL do some damage.

That's all I have for now...

 

But pretty much with a 100 shot wet you should be okay ?

I wanna see how some people put all this into the car , where its soraying into how you ran the nos from the trunk to the engine etc..

 

Fuck THAT! I'm sticking with gasoline.....

That's a new verb, Mikey....

 

I was given nitrous before, I almost died

:coolstorybro:

 

I'm hoping this was given to (or sorayed into ) your car....not yourself....

 

You run the line under the car unless you want to wait for a leak and get a headache and feel sick.
bottle in trunk,hole threw the floor,line to you solenoid under the hood.
Using a dry setup like zex will stop you from having to deal with seperate fuel lines.

 

Yes, with ease.

Two things though. Get yourself a WIDEBAND air/fuel ratio gauge so things can monitored. For every 50hp its a general rule of thumb to go one step cooler on your spark plugs. DO NOT run platinum plugs. Use copper plugs only. Reason being platinum tips running much hotter therefore the tip will be more likely to retain heat which could lead to detonation (pre-ignition). Anyhow, 2 steps cooler total. Pull the plugs as frequently as you can to check how things are going...all of them. Doing this helps to ensure if there's a problem, you can pinpoint it before a catastrophic failure occurs. Pay close attention to the two cylinder closest to the TB and the two cylinders furthest away as they suffer the most. The closest ones usually will catch most of the nitrous and fuel (run rich) and this is usually when it's in a liquid state. When that happens in excess, any liquid that's caught in the combustion chamber on compression stroke cannot be compressed and will either knock a hole in the piston top, blow rings, or bend a rod. The two furthest away will be starved of fuel (lean condition) which will cause elevated heat levels and when nitrous enters with low fuel content, that's when pistons, valves and valve seats can literally MELT or become damaged.

 

Thanks that answered alot of my questions guys .

About how much money should it roughly cost for a full setup ? $~600 ? And where do you fill bottles and whats that cost ?

 

If its done correctly and using a WET nitrous kit, you should expect to pay anywhere from $1000-$1500 if you shop around for good prices. You will need things as listed:
1. Nitrous and fuel solenoids
2. Line
3. Bottle
4. Bottle mount
5. Heater
6. Pressure gauges (nitrous and fuel)
7. Safety switches
8. Fittings, jets, misc items

This is excluding any monitoring systems such as wideband AF gauges, window switches, etc. If one plans on going above a 100 shot you should seriously consider investing in a direct port system...especially on our engines. Lastly, all I have writtent is based on the assumption all other aspects on the vehicle can support the desired HP level you're aiming for. Things such as fuel system, ignition, tuning abilities (if needed), and so on.

Be careful, it's easy to get addicted. Just look at those that are strung out here on Azine such as Foxbody, Gerzand, myself...nitrous in moderacy bud.

 

Youngone do you have any pictures of your setup in the trunk and inside the car with the guages and switches ?

I wanna be safe and fast , so 100 wet seems like the best route.

 

https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-cl-2001-2003-50/how-many-bottles-does-take-break-j32a2-860380/

This is my nitrous thread I ran a while back trying to see how many bottles it took to kill a j32 (seriously) using nitrous. I'll give you the answer if you don't feel like reading it all: 55 bottles total.

As for some trunk shots...


10lb bottle

15lb bottle....totaling 25lbs at a given moment.

Few ideas if you ever consider direct port.

The direct port kit itself...

Another idea...

 

Hmmm how convienient I already have a im spacer I'm not using ...
One last thing (hopefully) where did you tap into for the fuel rail ?

 

Check out my nitrous thread I posted, it shows everything in the engine compartment.

 

All this nitrous talk makes me wanna throw a 50 shot to keep the m62 company .. Good luck on your build keep us posted eh!

 

I plan on running atleast a small shot alongside the turbo for the synergy they create. Any boosted application should be accompanied by atleast a small shot for the IAT cooling effects.

 

 

Yung:

What are your thoughts on DEI's Cry02 Cryogenic Intercooler Sprayer?

 

Expensive horsepower.

Kind of a "tweakers" mod if you ask me. One of those things you do to try and squeeze a little more power out of the motor.

The only additional benefit it would carry is assisting in detonation prevention. Which is really an issue with tuning capabilities...which our motors seem to have a big problem with.

 

As much as I've been reading about N2O the past couple of days, don't want to go that route...

As this will be my daily, looking for reliable power without having to worry about replenishing n2o or water/meth tanks... not yet at least

 

As I mentioned, moderacy is key in your situation. You only need enough to cool the charge (directly to airstream) to gain its benefits without jeopardizing reliability. In a boosted application, nitrous is the one exception where its actually better for the engine. You will see less detonation, decreased IAT's, turbo service life (decrease boost to make same power), increased engine life (lower temps during combustion)...just to name a few. Need I explain more? Nitrous used correctly can be helpful. It's when used in excessive amounts it becomes volatile and detrimental. Nitrous has been given a bad name because so many people use it without really knowing how and destroy their engine...only to blame the nitrous. With everything, there's a wrong way and a right way.

 

Well put ^ .

 

Understood & agreed.

When & if I decide to go that route, it'll be no more than 50 shot or less.

 

I'd really like to see some engine compartment shots of your car. Not too many people go the forced induction route around her but when they do, nobody ever really takes good pictures of how it was done. The more mainstream it becomes in the forum, the more everyone gets that itch...kind of like I did.

Mine started over at j32a dot com though. I was intrigued at how well put together two members setups were and how intimidating yet beautiful it looked. Love it!

 

I'll put up a results thread once it's all done