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Old 10-29-2003, 12:58 PM
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Noob w/ some questions.

As the newest member of Acura-CL.com, I'd like to say what up!

I currently have an emerald green 99' Honda Accord coupe F23 with minor interior and exterior mods. After test driving a CL-S and practically nutting in my pants, I am only days away from buying one. Before I buy, I have a few questions for the experts in this forum. So, if you don't mind...

1. How many generations are there?
2. For the current gen, which year did honda/acura do the typical headlight/tailight change?
3. What is a fair price for the a used CL in the current gen?
4. Does the 6 speed really make a difference?

I have many more questions but, I'll try to do a search for them instead of ask. Being a long time member of , I know how frustrating it can be when people ask things that have been asked over and over before doing a search.

Thanks in advance for your responses.
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NM about the 'how many gens' question. I just found that there are 2... correct?
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Re: Noob w/ some questions.

Originally posted by nitelyfe

1. How many generations are there?
2. For the current gen, which year did honda/acura do the typical headlight/tailight change?
3. What is a fair price for the a used CL in the current gen?
4. Does the 6 speed really make a difference?
Hey Nitelyfe......Welcome to the forum!!!

1. There are only 2 gens in the cl....
2. For the 2 gen they changed the headlight/tailight in '00.....
3. Depends on the miles.....you can get a great deal sometimes....
4. Hellz Yeah
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Re: Noob w/ some questions.

Your answers... in order :

1. 2 (1997-1999 and 2001-2003. There was no 2000 model)

2. 2003. They added the blacked out headlight housing and the half clear/half red tails. 2001 and 2002 saw no light changes between the model years.

3. Depends on mileage and the year. I've seen 2001's as low as $19k and 2003's as high as $26k

4. Yes. It drops about 1/2 a second off of your 1/4 mile time. Manual trannys are more effecient then autos.... thus, the manual puts more power to the wheels.

Oh, and BTW, welcome to the board
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1. How many generations are there?

1997, 1998, 1999 = gen 1
2001. 2002, 2003 = gen 2


2. For the current gen, which year did honda/acura do the typical headlight/tailight change?

2001 and 2002 share headlights and tails. 2003 have the redesigned tails and smoked headlight housings.

3. What is a fair price for the a used CL in the current gen?

depends on a lot of things...type s or not, mileage, which year etc. if you give a description of what you are looking at I / we can give you a fair price.

4. Does the 6 speed really make a difference?

much more fun to drive, and it will take a few ticks off your times.
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1. 2 generations
2. 2003
3. 20-23k - 2001
22-25k -2002
26k+ - 2003
4. YES - a lot less power loss due to the manual v. auto tranny ~6 or 7 % diff.
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damn 4 replies within a minute of each other. thats why I love this site....
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Originally posted by Beetroot
damn 4 replies within a minute of each other. thats why I love this site....
LOL, I was just thinking the same thing. We were all typing at the same time!!
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All answered at the same time
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Wow that was quick. Thanks for the answers.

I'm looking for a 1st half 2nd gen type s w/ no more than 50k miles. Navi and 6sp would be nice but I think I live without em. I like the 17"rs that the stock type s's have during those years more than the 03's.

I've heard rumors that the CL-S can gain 30hp w/ just i/h/e. Is that true? If it is WHOOLLLY SHIT... those numbers are unheard of in the accord world. I have i/h/e and I'm lucky if I got 15hp.
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the 03 has 17's also, they are just different style. You would not have a problem swapping the 03 rims for 01 or 02 if you like those better. I'd trade with ya.

And yeah it will gain about 30 with I/H/E...90% of that from the headers. They aren't cheap though, comptech headers will cost you up over 1300 installed, exhaust is about 500...just cat back...B pipe is 450
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Headers have been dynoed at around 28whp peak.. so yeah.. it's a nice gain. Intake will get you 5-7whp peak and exhaust 1-2, so like Beetroot said... Headers are the best investment.. but they will cost ya....
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6 speed manual was only available on the 03


also, if the rumors are true, this new uni-chip will be available very soon and add 7% hp for $650 or so. thats not a bad deal...if thats correct...

I/H = 30hp
7% of 290hp = 20hp

have that bad boy running over 300 horsepower for under 2 grand.
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Originally posted by Beetroot
the 03 has 17's also, they are just different style. You would not have a problem swapping the 03 rims for 01 or 02 if you like those better. I'd trade with ya.

And yeah it will gain about 30 with I/H/E...90% of that from the headers. They aren't cheap though, comptech headers will cost you up over 1300 installed, exhaust is about 500...just cat back...B pipe is 450

LOL... yeah, I knew they were 17s on the 03 but, now you've made me think the O3's are better or something . They're not lighter are they? Do you know how deep they are? 7, 8 inches?

I noticed comptech makes quite a few things for the CL-s... specially noticed the s/c. That would be ohh sooo sweet. $1300 for headers installed though... damn thats expensive. Is it a hard DIY? cause I installed all the parts on my accord.

500 is about right for exhaust. my accord has a greddy evo and it was $480

thanks Beetroot
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Stock CL-S wheels are 17x7.5. Same weight, same spec.. just different design for the 2003's.

Also, keep in mind the Comptech Exhausts are Axle-back. The B-pipe is useless unless you're running a FI setup.

Many people have installed their own headers, so if you're good around a car (which it sounds like you are) you'll be fine. S/C would be a very tough task to do yourself.
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Originally posted by nitelyfe
LOL... yeah, I knew they were 17s on the 03 but, now you've made me think the O3's are better or something . They're not lighter are they? Do you know how deep they are? 7, 8 inches?

I noticed comptech makes quite a few things for the CL-s... specially noticed the s/c. That would be ohh sooo sweet. $1300 installed though... damn thats expensive. Is it a hard DIY? cause I installed all the parts on my accord.

500 is about right for exhaust. my accord has a greddy evo and it was $480

thanks Beetroot
supercharger is about $4,000 + installation...and its not an easy DIY.

and no, the 03 rims are no different as far as I know, just looks. I just like em a little better.

and the 500 is really just for the mufflers...for the B pipe that runs the length of the car look at adding another 450. comtech exhaust doesn't really add much, 2-3 hp at the most. They are mostly for sound/looks.
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Originally posted by Beetroot
6 speed manual was only available on the 03


also, if the rumors are true, this new uni-chip will be available very soon and add 7% hp for $650 or so. thats not a bad deal...if thats correct...

I/H = 30hp
7% of 290hp = 20hp

have that bad boy running over 300 horsepower for under 2 grand.

AWWWW!!!... over 300 hp for 2k, your fuckin killin me dude... thats double the stock hp of my current car.... I guess I'll have to get used to livin the the luxury sports coupe world now... and not a moment too soon.
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sorry, my post about the DIY was a little confusing... theres no way I'ma DIY an s/c... I meant for the headers.

I did look under the engine of a type s and there isn't much room... honda/acura really cramed that 3.2 in there
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1 more question that I can't seem to find doin a search... whats the engine code on the CL-s?
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nitelyfe - where are you in bay? Maybe we can meet up.

EDIT: ...to look at my car. lol.
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Originally posted by ronnie0738
nitelyfe - where are you in bay? Maybe we can meet up.



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LOLOLOLOLOLOL... its sad but true about bay area (not about me)... hey though... we've got some of the best nitelyfe (heehee) in the world.
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Originally posted by ronnie0738
nitelyfe - where are you in bay? Maybe we can meet up.

EDIT: ...to look at my car. lol.
I work in downtown SF on California st but live in the east bay (Martinez). Why? you tryin to sell your car?
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