Alright gentlemen edumacate me on the use of NO2(Lauging Gas) for our cars.

To the men who have them......

What other mods needed to safely run NO2? IE: plugs, fuel injectors?

Any mods to A/T? Will A/T survive?

Driveability?

Is NOS bottle and ZEX system compatible?

I thought Zex was a dry sys. (NO2 injected into intake(air) side and not fuel side). Cause another thread makes it sound confusing. Clarify?

Finally, cost and worth?

Alright gentlemen edumacate me!

 

i say the cls is too nice of a car to run NOS in. DON'T DO IT.

 

first off, it's n2o



and dbox, why do you say it's to nice of a car for the juice? Nitrous is absolutely awesome if it's installed right, it's perfect for those times when you need just a little more umph but dont' want to have it all the time and want it relatively cheap. Every car I own from now on will have nitrous, just in case. I've never met a person w/ a nitrous kit that had problems from correct installation and use. It's very safe and very fun. I'm sure alot of others will chime in.


You will need new colder plugs and maybe a Fuel Regulater. But it really depends how much you want to squeeze. A kit should cost you about 700$ w/ installation and your auto tranny should hold up fine if you aren't overzealous w/ the stuff.

 

Ghander.. im seriously going the Nitrous(zex/N-express) route.. 35-55shot maximum though just to be on the safe side for my auto... will i be able to feel the boost?? Will I still need a Fuel regulator ? Colder plugs for sure...
and isnt it a pretty straight forward install/instructions? how can a Nitrous install go wrong or be Not properly installed... is there tuning needed also? or simply plug and play.

ill most likely be squeezing only in straight highways on 4th gear.. and maybe a few 1/4 runs... any input will be appreciated. Thanks

 

Definately you'll be able to feel it. W/ teh zex and NX kit's it's pretty plug and play. If you have any sort of mechanical know how it'll be a sinch. Personally I like NOS, it's harder to install but I get it cheap and have always liked it. But it looks like the zex and NX are more advanced. I don't think you'll have any worries w/ the stock fuel system so w/ just plugs you'll be fine.

 

how often do you guys have to refill?
i can see myself getting used to the kick like crack and i'm wondering how often and for that matter how much to refill?
ZEX coming soon regrdless
tired of my car just looking like it's going to kick ass

 

I was told by a local speed shop that the nozzels on the Zex kit is not top quality - Is this true ( Im thinking his kickback on a Zex kit may be less)

Or are the NX or NOS kits any better?

 

Ghander, thanks.. ill be getting the Zex kit in no time.. $850 cdn from local shop here...is there any advantage/disadvantage of having colder plugs without nitrous use?.. Im thinking i should get them installed before the kit goes in...

MC222: Zex is the most common brand i've seen people use here.. no reported nozzle problems yet?.. or not that i've seen...
can someone confirm this please?

 

about 30$ to refill a 10# bottle. And you get maybe 10-12 1/4 mile runs from a bottle running a 50 shot.

 

the many horror stories i have heard have scared me away from it i guess. i'd just be too worried something would go wrong with my 30k car. i'd just hate to see one of you guys fuck your car up. i know if i could get an extra 50-or 75 extra HP and the touch of a button...i'd hate my car without it and be on the GAS all the time.

 

AWESOME! Thanks for the quick response bro.
i didn't a full bottle would last that long....i can live with that
i'm thinking like a 75 shot -time to whip out the credit card -- oh god this car's gonna bankrupt me

 

honestly, have you heard any horror stories from people who experienced them personally? most of the stories out there are old and refer back to the days when this was still a new thing. It's virtually flawless now if installed and used correctly. There is a big misconception of it around the industry. Alot of people have been scared away from it by just hearing stories when most of the stories aren't true or are very very old.


Think about it this way too, people put the shit on 100K cars, you think they'd do it if it wasn't fool proof?

 

this was in my civic days. i had a hatch with a gsr engine/si tranny. everyone else sprayed and had problems.... car wasn't as fast all motor after spraying... people blowing motors (i knew a few) shit like that. i don't know enough about i to knock it, i just wouldn't put it on a cl-s.

 

I couldn't tell you how many people I know w/ nitrous. Only times i've seen problems is when they tried to put to big a shot in. Everybody else hasn't had problems. Now of course it does cause a little more stress on the motor, but not as much as a turbo or SC since those are both full time options.

 

As a general rule:
N2O = Turbo = SC.

They all do the same things (introduce more air and thus more fuel into the engine).

The reason why there are so many "horror stories" about N2O is because it is so easy to slap onto your car ($400 and you can put a 100+ shot on pretty much anything) and then immediately blow it up. Of course, if you slap a 20psi turbo on your car it's probably gonna do the exact same thing.

If you know what you are doing the advantages of N2O are actually _less_ wear-and-tear on the engine (because it's not always on like a turbo/SC) but the power isn't always available (you'll run out of juice eventually).


However with anything it is pretty easy to ruin your engine. N2O? Put the car in Neutral, hit the gas, and spray. watch your engine hit 30,000 rpms and blow up. :P

Of course with a little brains N2O is just as safe as anything else...it just needs to be tuned same as any other forced induction-style mod.

 

Hey Deathlok
Correct me I'm wrong but having is not forced induction. The Oxide part of N2O imakes the air being mixed with fuel to be burned more dense. I could be wrong though.

 

Thanks for all the replys so far guys. Back to some of the questions though, how is drivability affected? What kind of plugs work best? And now that yall mentioned it..... Any horror stories from the fellas in here with N2O

 

I just installed my ZEX kit on Wed. Took about 5 hours. A friend and I did it in my parking lot. Had to buy a couple extra spade tips male and female and some extra wire, other then that everything you need comes with the kit.

One thing if you buy the purge kit be very careful drilling the holes, if you decide to center it on the hood. The hole will end up having to be drilled very close to your right hand wiper. I let my partner drill the hole and that was the only mistake that was made during the install. Now my wiper isn't working!!!!!!!!!! So I'll be taking that aprt over the weekend.

Could find anyplace to get the bottle filled yet here in NOVA, speedshop close to my place is out of Nitrous right now. I'm starting off with the 55 shot just to get a feel for it. Looking forward to the 75 shot!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Deathlok: how can you tune nitrous? i thought it was plug and play?

 

What determines the "shot" What i mean is how do you go from a 55 shot to a 75? Another bottle? Forgive my ignorance? Learning as i go

 

I have used the NX kit on two cars. My 2001 cls and accord v6. I love it. If you are going over a 50 shot use a wet kit. As far as your tranny holding up it depends. It is kinda like crack in that if you get addicted and want to spray just getting on the freeway. If you use it responsible then you will be fine. There is no reason for filling up a bottle more than once a month. I dropped about a sec on my quarter time and had no problems. Go with NX!!!!!!!!!!

 

Your kit comes with a series of "pills" they restrict how much nitous comes from the bottle. If you have a wet kit then you have one pill for the gas and one for the n2o. Each pill is marked with a number. The sylinoid is what basically pumps the n20 and it is capable of pumping a certain amount. For example I could use a 300 shot with my NX but only 75 was safe for the car.

 

You get a three sets of "jets" with the ZEX kit. One set equals a 55HP increase, the next a 65, and the third a 75 shot. So if your want more Nitrous then you simply change the set of jets your using. One on the Zex management system one on the line that taps into your intake. I'm not exactly sure what the jet on the management system does. Maybe fuel????? Someone else with more Nitrous experience will have to answer that.

 

I remember the pictures of a guys blown up Maxima from his NOS exploding in his garage...thank god no one was home at the time. It was a negligent mistake though...so no worries.

 

how hard is it to d/c the bottle?? im sure is not too difficult. I would be d/c everytime it was parked in my garage.

 

With todays kits if the bottle exceeds a certain temp it will start to leak rather then blow. Nitrous itself is not flamable but once it is mixed with gas watch out. The bottle is really easy to disconnect just unskrew. I live in Houston TX and have never had a problem during the summer. Now sometimes I could not use it because the bottle would be over a certain psi (1200). That is why it is important to have a nitrous gauge.