No M Coupe, instead it will be called the Z5

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Old 12-30-2002, 10:10 PM
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No M Coupe, instead it will be called the Z5

I know that this is not very new news but I thought it was interesting still...



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BMW engineers testing Z5 prototype; car slotted to replace M Coupe


BMW engineers are testing the first prototype of the BMW Z5, a higher-contented Z3 slotted as a likely replacement for the M Coupe. The Z5 has a short rear deck and long hood like the current Z3 coupe, but an overall increase in size allows for more graceful proportions.
Sources report that BMW engineers are shooting for an extremely lightweight car—something around 2000 pounds (compared with nearly 3131 pounds for the 2001 M Coupe). BMW is taking extraordinary measures to reduce weight, including using special composite wheels made of a mixture of aluminum and Kevlar. These wheels are about one-third lighter than traditional cast-aluminum rims.

Early reports suggest a 2.2-liter inline four-cylinder making more than 200 hp (and possibly as much as 240 hp), compared with the current model’s 24-valve inline six producing 315 hp. BMW expects the lighter weight to result in stellar handling, adding to the go-kart charms of the current Z3/M Coupe.

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The best driver's car ever? This is the BMW Z5, the car which insiders say will be the finest driving machine ever built by BMW - which arguably means THE best.

Set to replace the power-packed M Coupe, the new BMW super sports car, shown here courtesy of UK magazine Auto Express, combines features from the soon-to-be released Z3 and the X-Coupe concept car.

Although the front lights are distinctively individual when compared to those of the current BMW range, the rear lamps are expected to be largely identical to those that were first shown on the X Coupé.

And the new coupe is aiming high, with the Porsche 911 its target, as well as about-to-be-launched supercars from Japan, including the Mazda RX-8, the Honda NSX, and the Nissan GT-R.

Performance from the new lightweight 2 plus 2 BMW is expected to be impressive.

This is not a "big cubes" car, with only 2.2 litres capacity, but it produces 180 kW and will be almost as quick as the giant-killing M3, with 0-100 km/h in under 5.6 seconds and top speed electronically limited to 250 km/h.

This will make it extremely lithe and manoeuvrable, while an advanced version of the M3's SMG sequential gearbox will make it ultra-exciting to drive fast, cool as a cucumber in traffic.

Ultra-competitive pricing

And pricing is expected to be ultra-competitive, in the same league as the current BMW 330 CSi - around R300 000 at current prices.

Codenamed Z5, the newcomer is no overnight sensation at BMW, says Auto Express. Board support was first sought for the project in 1999, when managers were weighed down by problems at Rover.

At that time, two other ideas were also being presented to bosses, including a V8 coupé aimed at Jaguar's XKR, and a ?200 000 spaceframe V10 replacement for the M1.

Codenamed Z29, the V8 was deemed too close to the Z8 and forthcoming 6-Series, while the V10 machine, known as M2, was too expensive.

As a result, the Z5 is the only project to have made it to prototype stage. It is based on a similar platform to the one on the forthcoming Z3. Made largely of aluminium, and featuring kevlar boot, bonnet and door panels, the car is expected to weigh little more than 1 000kg. Wheel builder BBS is expected to help produce a set of lightweight alloys, further improving the suspension's efficiency.

Although front engined, the model's proportions show that engineers are pursuing a design which will see the motor mounted as far back as possible in the chassis to help improve weight distribution and handling.

Obviously the coupé will offer BMW's advanced DSC traction-control system as well as ABS. However, as with the current crop of models, this can be switched off by keen drivers.

BMW is also expected to make much of its F1 experience to help sell the new car at its launch late in 2003. It is even possible that the engines will be badged to celebrate the firm's long association with race machine builder Williams.

As the model is developed, BMW is also rumoured to be in the process of developing an all-new V8 edition of the coupé, although this model could be as far away as 2008. If this car goes ahead, it is likely to use the all-new M3 engine destined to appear in the next-generation 3-Series in 2006.
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Source 2 above probably means "soon-to-be released Z4" instead of Z3.
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2.2 liters?
240 hp?

i guess thats just kinda disapointing, it'd make more sense for the M coupe replacement to...*BE FAST*.....im sure this thing would be light but comon now, i'd rather the M3 engine be put in there, now THAT would be a beast.
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looking fooken hot...!!
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Holy cow!
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WOWOWOWOWOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



i'd buy that in an instant if i had the money!
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look like the chrysler bastard (crossfire), the one Jay Leno showed and talked trash about it.. the one that got like 220 HP and weigh some 3000lbs!
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Originally posted by ItalianStallion
2.2 liters?
240 hp?

i guess thats just kinda disapointing, it'd make more sense for the M coupe replacement to...*BE FAST*.....im sure this thing would be light but comon now, i'd rather the M3 engine be put in there, now THAT would be a beast.
Dude, if the car weighed 2000lbs as the article said (or even as much as 2400 in other articles about the car), it would FLY.

Speed is about power to weight, not just power. A Mack truck has a ton of power, but can't accelerate or handle like a Chevy Metro....
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2000 lb is a much as MR2... with 240HP it would be a rocket...

Just look for this Hybrid: http://www.prototyperacing.com/k20kit.htm

It would be showed in this LA Auto Show!!!

Some please got some pictures if you are attending ...
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