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Old 04-13-2003, 01:46 PM
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just curious as to what setup people have

wet or dry
Old 04-13-2003, 03:11 PM
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Ive got a dry 100shot with a Zex kit...just wondering how these other users are only trapping 102 with their 75shots? Hell I trapped 107 with mine, then 109 with the bigger one....oh well....
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Originally posted by Zootking
Ive got a dry 100shot with a Zex kit...just wondering how these other users are only trapping 102 with their 75shots? Hell I trapped 107 with mine, then 109 with the bigger one....oh well....
Could be the track... I've trapped different at different tracks.
Old 04-13-2003, 08:33 PM
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I like my zex dry.
Old 04-13-2003, 09:07 PM
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whats the diff between wet and dry??
Old 04-13-2003, 10:17 PM
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A wet shot incorporates gas along with the nitrous, as opposed to just spraying right into the throttle body....anyone else can tell you the specifics cause im not an expert on the subject...

Siggy, you're right, it could just be the track conditions, but ive run at three different one's and never trapped below 107...i dont now, just seemed weird i guess, since the auto/manual are basically the same car....
Old 04-13-2003, 11:56 PM
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would it be better to go with dry shot on a almost stock car??
Old 04-14-2003, 01:29 AM
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go with zex dry kit
Old 04-14-2003, 02:34 AM
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125 shot direct port nos wet kit
Old 04-14-2003, 02:59 AM
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have you used it yet andy??
Old 04-14-2003, 06:36 AM
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I've been hearing that it's recommended to activate NOS only about 2,500 RPM. But with most kits they activate with WOT....when you race, do you activate the switch then floor the sucker...or do you accelerate and when you're over 2,500 RPM you activate it?
Old 04-14-2003, 07:32 AM
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There's actually an RPM switch you can buy and set to where the NOS wont turn itself on until you reach that certain RPM level. I personally dont have this, but know people who do...I just flip the switch when i go above 4000RPMS b/c thats what i was told is the lowest RPM level to turn on your shot.
Old 04-14-2003, 02:22 PM
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2.5K is the lowest I could think of when using nitrous. U can activate nitrous 2 ways:

1. turn on the activation switch and when u are ready floor it, or


2. floor it and when u need alittle help flip the switch.


Personally I like setp 2, can u really feel a 100 shot when u flip the switch, not like some punny 75 shot that all the dry users are running .











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Old 04-14-2003, 03:46 PM
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Juker, lets just say the first time I hit the switch with my 75shot, i almost forgot to shift gears and Fastvteccl can vouch for that cause he was in the car. Yes, you can feel a 75 shot very good and a 100 shot even better....i'll put it to you another way, on my old tires, when i ran a RX7, i was in 2nd @50mph, hit the switch and actually wheel hopped and had to slam 3rd before i caught traction......its definitely the best "bang for your buck"
Old 04-14-2003, 04:54 PM
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whats the scoop on nitrous affecting the longevity of the engine??

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Old 04-14-2003, 05:50 PM
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Obviously its not the best for an engine, but neither is a supercharger or a turbo. Im under the impression that if not used daily or in abundance, the engine should hold up fine. I heard from a guy that had his engine blow, that when dissected, there was no form of NOS residue or any sign of NOS being used, except for the big hole in the block
Old 04-14-2003, 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by liquid_x
just curious as to what setup people have

wet or dry
ZEX 75 shot (DRY)


Originally posted by Zootking


Siggy, you're right, it could just be the track conditions, but ive run at three different one's and never trapped below 107...i dont now, just seemed weird i guess, since the auto/manual are basically the same car....
Zoot,

I disagree with your theory, "since the auto/manual are basically the same car.... "

I have seen a big difference in ET & trap speed between the Auto vs. 6 Speed. Most (average) AUTO's are running between 15.0 & 14.7 @ 93-95 MPH (n/a), while most (average) 6 SPEED owners pull between 14.3 & 13.9 @ 98-100 MPH (n/a). Same car?? In that case, I'll trade cars with any you anytime.
Old 04-14-2003, 07:30 PM
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I got a venom vcn-2000 its a progressive system.
Old 04-14-2003, 10:52 PM
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How much could I expect to pay for parts and installation of a Zex 75 shot dry system?
Old 04-17-2003, 03:06 AM
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The problem i see is that ppl give NOS a bad rep. Mostly because you only hear the bad stories about NOS...about blown engines. I think it's due to lack of common scense when and how to use it and mostly incorrect installation.

NOS works in the same basic prinicple as Turbo or Supercharger. The power doesn't come from the NOS itself....NOS/Turbo/Super just allows more air in so the engine can burn more fuel. The power comes from the extra fuel made possible by the extra air. Ppl say that NOS raises the chamber temp and will damage the engine...well turbo and super also raises temp. So I don't see how dangerous NOS can be when used properly.

To install ZEX 75 dry kit..the kit is about $500 (check ebay), i personally don't think installation is that long 1-2 hours. Mount the bottle, run the lines from trunk to the hood, connect the box to the appropriate wires, connect the NOS line, tap the NOS into ur CAI or stock air box.
Old 04-17-2003, 03:17 AM
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Zex 55 dry shot.

Like any power adder, nitrous does shorten life in the long run. What I like about it is the fact it's not always affecting the engine. Like all power adders many pros and cons.
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U know that if you make something work harder it will not live as long. When using NOS, ppl will tell you that it will wear faster...but there is no technical data says how fast it wear. It doesn't say that using NOS will kill your engine 2 years faster...how long does an engine last anyways? I've been driving an 89 Toyota Camry until i got my TL, and it was still in good driving shape.

So i think NOS does affect the engine but not significant enough to make a noticable difference.
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SFLA...I guess you're right, but most of those cars trapping 98-100mph have everything except the gas, and most of the autos with I/H/E are trapping 97....i dont know, i guess sometimes you think its the same when it may not be, like the TLS(I/H/E) lose to a stock (intake/springs) 6 speed....I know the gearing is different but i didnt think it really made that much of a difference...oh well, i still would like to run in to some other CLS guys with nitrous, or the charger, cause there is no one in this area and Fastvteccl just isnt fast enough anymore
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Originally posted by XkRaZiX
125 shot direct port nos wet kit

get out and use that thing man!


i'm have a dry kit, but once I decide if i'm keeping the car or not i'll be putting on a direct port w/ the same guy that did xkrazix's
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Originally posted by AcuraTLSFan
I've been hearing that it's recommended to activate NOS only about 2,500 RPM. But with most kits they activate with WOT....when you race, do you activate the switch then floor the sucker...or do you accelerate and when you're over 2,500 RPM you activate it?

this is true, I have my setup hooked up to a button. Once activated all the control is in the palm of my hand hooked up to a button I bought at some little electronics store. It's very handy and I hit the button at about 3,000 RPM
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According to SCC mag they say you shouldn't spray under 3500 rpm.
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Originally posted by Zootking
SFLA...I guess you're right, but most of those cars trapping 98-100mph have everything except the gas, and most of the autos with I/H/E are trapping 97....i dont know, i guess sometimes you think its the same when it may not be, like the TLS(I/H/E) lose to a stock (intake/springs) 6 speed....I know the gearing is different but i didnt think it really made that much of a difference...oh well, i still would like to run in to some other CLS guys with nitrous, or the charger, cause there is no one in this area and Fastvteccl just isnt fast enough anymore
Hey Zoot, I just installed my AEM pulleys two days ago. I feel a little difference (all motor) but nothing significant. Some people have told me that pulleys give more power on a forced induction engine (ie:Turbo, SC, Nitrous). Do you find this to be the case on your car? I have not sprayed my car with the pulleys yet so I don't know first hand. Although I will be spraying soon.
Old 04-17-2003, 07:43 PM
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To be honest with you, I havent noticed DICK with my pulleys....these things seem like a waste of money, although i did buy them used, so it wasnt that much of a waste, but if they were such a pain in the ass to take off, i'd sell them in a heartbeat...I was told the UR pulleys were good, but the guys that do work on my car said the crank pulleys always caused problems when they installed them...No one on here has had any problems and supposedly with the whole kit you get 15-20HP, so i dont know....i dont remember spraying w/out them, but i know allmotor they didnt do anything...oh well, thats the price you pay when building something....

Speaking of building something, my stepdad and I are starting to build a 37 Convertible with a 383 Stroker motor...this thing is gonna be sick, full fiberglass body (should weigh 1500lbs) and a 350HP motor (possibly more) god i cant wait...to bad its gonna take us at least 6 months to build, but hopefully by fall we'll have the thing running.......
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aem pullies


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for looks only
Old 04-17-2003, 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by Zootking
To be honest with you, I havent noticed DICK with my pulleys....












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yeah im beginning to think AEM stands for All Expectations not-Met...sorry couldnt think of a good acronym
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Zootking...most ppl say that they feel the car "rev-fast" with the pullies.... Do you feel no affect whatsoever from the pullies, or do you not notice any power gain but there are other affects?

I was planning on getting the pullies becuase i heard that it will help rev faster and be more benificial with other mods. I have almost the same setup as you. INJEN CAI, Headers, and exhuast. Or should i get the UR 2 piece pully, the alternator and the power steering?
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without the crank pulley there is no gain.
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ATLS-Fan, yeah I really didnt feel anything with the pulley upgrade, and certainly nothing on the dyno...as far as faster revving, the nitrous is what really makes you rev faster....ive noticed, the faster ive made my car, there really isnt any noticeable difference. I would agree with Nashua, for your TL to feel a difference, go with the UR Pulleys (the full set)....actually, i would love to see a TL with some gas on it, im not sure its been done yet
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