juruki

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I have been reading some posts on the TL section and some people say the new TL is faster than the 2nd gens. I heard the new one was overrated at 270 and that its actually 258 hp, and that throtle is not as responsive as the Type-S. Did anyone ever race the new TL (auto and stock)?

Sun Diego CL-S

from what i've read from mags and this forum, it seems that the TL is the equal of the Type S' in both 0-60 times and quarter miles. don't you live in LA, juruki? if so, check out the meet/events thread for the upcoming SoCal meet.

Warren803

Not sure which is quicker, but the numbers 270 and 258 you stated are in actuality the same. They are just stating the 270 hp (old way) as 258 hp (new sae method). Its just a new engineering standard that I think all or most of the car companies have decided to rate horsepower with now.

clpimp12

i raced a couple and havent had any problems beating them by a couple of cars. I dont know if they were stick but they all seem pretty upset when they can't catch up

CleanCL

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i destroyed a new stock TL... check my mods.

Bobbydoedoe

haha same here

Time For Sleeep

Not sure which is faster, all I knows is that their headers give 20whp and torque throughout the powerband.

Mikes96TL03CLS

They only have 10 more HP....then our CL S or TL S.

juruki

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I was talking about stock for stock... Is your car modded?

juruki

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I thought they didnt have headers for the new TLs. Does Comptech make headers for the 3rd gen TLs? Do these new headers for the 3rd gen add more power than the ones for the 2nd gens?

ChucksCL-S

I watched three of them race at a track one day over and over, and the best time I saw was a 15.3. With my stock Type-S (back then) I ran a 14.7. Go figure. I do like the new TL's BTW but I'm just saying I haven't seen a good run yet.

Time For Sleeep

I did a little bit of TL forum visiting today; apparnetly they're getting a group buy going on new headers.

mclarenf3387

They're not headers, they're high flow cats essentially. Their exhaust manifold is cast into the head so its impossible for them to have headers.

CL Platano

stock vs stock they will beat a cl-s/tl-s

Chemmech

I see the 3rd gen guys thinking about doing ex/intake porting on the heads .

Time For Sleeep

that's what I thought too, but they keep saying headers headers headers =/

PeterUbers

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My stock TL-S felt quicker than my stock '04 TL did. But my modded TL-S (intake/headers/exhaust/pulley) would DESTROY my current TL (intake only).

My Aspec TL, however, will run circles around any stock TL-S in the handling dept.

Bobbydoedoe

what does the Aspec kit in the TL include? i thought their jsut all look

Stealth CL

not true.
friend has an o5 tl, raced twice dead stop......stock to stock/ Auto to Auto

pulled on him twice by about a car.....but pretty damn even, and on tranny #3

CL Platano

My TL-S doesn't feel as responsive as my friends 3G at all..

F900

Same here i've raced a few 04-05TLs and while they are quick my CLS seems to be able to outrun them. I've had for a few weeks a 05TL/NAVI and i can stay, it just dont seem to have the kick you get from the CLS, once Vtec kicks in....

Anyone know if the New TL is heaver, that would explain why, or else i've been racing shitty drivers. But then again there was one time where we both floored it somewhere around 120mph, the CLS seemed to be getting away more than at 80mph.

CL Platano

The TL is about 300 lbs heavier, I'm definately gonna run my boy in his 3g tomorrow if it's dry out because when we ran the last time he had me but was never pulling on me. I think once either car gets the jump on the other neither will catch it, but I don't see the 3g Tl putting more than 1 car length on a CL-S or TL-S or vice versa. There is only 2-300 lbs difference and less than 10ft torque difference.

2003TL-S

Stock auto vs Stock auto my 2nd Gen has yet to lose. I have read though that there is something goofy with the 3rd gen when they try to torque brake, that it hesitates when they let off the gas which kind of kills the launch, which would explain alot. Plus us 2nd gens have the option of complete control to run up 1st gear (gate shift first)a little higher into redline where as 3rd gen can't at least thats what happened in the 3rd gen loaner I had.

6MTpromises

Def wasn't the case when i raced one when i was stock.

RaviNJCLs

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I never had any problems beating the TL. Even with the filthy intake I just changed.

fuzzy02CLS

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Stock for stock the tl-cls is a hair quicker & mostly even.
The new TL is heavy, & has more rolling restance since it has 17X8 rims & 235-45-17 tires. That's why it feels a little slow compared to a cl-tls.

mantis23

I haven't had a chance to run one yet.

I thought I could get one to bite last night, but cops have been everywhere lately so we kept it cool.

Sun Diego CL-S

so apparently there is no need for a poll in here. the CL/TL-S wins hands down. then again, what results would we see if we staged a poll in the lair of the 3G TLs?!

Allout

I bet there are plenty of stories in the 3G TL section of Type S kills.

01blkv6

When my 02 TL-S was in the shop having the tranny replaced, I had a 04' TL/Nav for 3 days and it did feel quicker off the line, like it had more down low response then my TLS. On hwy passing power, my TL-S felt quicker. Just my 2 cents~

All Mine

We should post that poll in there, just to piss them off.

VeeralS05

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I dont have any probs beating my roommates A-Spec TL

clpimp12

Yes, my car is modded now but when i was stock i still beat them! Mostly out of the hole, like somebody mentioned, and they couldn't catch up. Both of are cars are quick but the cl-s' vtec seems to hit a lot harder then the 3rd gen and the launch is better.

trancemission

whenever you're ready just let me know, but no nitrous

Sun Diego CL-S

don't forget to broadcast it live online with various camera views.
two mods in a heads-up race. the AZ event of 2006.

trancemission

^^^ yeah he might take me, I hope to get the short shifter in before this happens. I think I can give him a good run for his money..

moomaster_99

We have a better torque band...and we give up only 10 hp which when dyno'd is like 8 hp....

I dont believe they are using the dual stage TB that we have.....and they give up like 20 lbs./torque to us....

juruki

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Let The Mods Race!!!! :p

typeR

yes it does use the same dual stage intake and no we dont have more torque

moomaster_99

Does it really??

I see the same torque figure..but that time at which it peaks seems high....5000rpms. We reach max torque from 3500-5000.....a nice flat torque curve.