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Old 09-29-2004 | 05:52 PM
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New PB 1/4 time...

ran at the track today cause the weather finally cooled down, 67 deg during my runs. my previous personal best was a 14.27.

my first run of the day was a 14.29 off my first ever 2.1 60', i experimented with tb'ing after that and it wasnt too pretty, high 2.3 60's, then i just did my usual launch and...

2.161--new pb
6.045
9.192@77.71
11.921
14.211@98.68--new pb

with some cooler temps i can imagine my car running 14.1, maybe just maybe a 14.0, but i dont see my 60's getting any better than that, i feel that the uni-chip isnt really helping me that much, i cant get it custome tuned and i havent had any luck with any of the maps they sent me, so with a tuned chip i think 13.9 is in the reach for some of you guys
Old 09-29-2004 | 06:01 PM
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good times tard
Old 09-29-2004 | 06:04 PM
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who ya callin a tard, ya tard
Old 09-29-2004 | 06:41 PM
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nice work d.
Old 09-29-2004 | 07:29 PM
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Very nice, Darrin. Sorry I didn't show up. Chris didn't want to go, and I didn't feel like making the trip by myself.
Old 09-29-2004 | 07:44 PM
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Good times man. I see 13s in your future.
Old 09-29-2004 | 07:46 PM
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Thats cool, you put .07 on my STOCK(ish) 6 speed.

Damn you auto's and you good 60's. With that 60' I'd be in the 13's
Old 09-29-2004 | 07:56 PM
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Awesome 60' time man! There are a few of use getting very close to 13's. It's such a tease to be right there. I may have a solution for the 6-speed 60' times in the works.
Old 09-29-2004 | 08:03 PM
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Old 09-29-2004 | 08:41 PM
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Nice times Darrin...!!

There aren't any UniChip tuners anywhere near you ? I'm going to have to drive 2+ hours to have mine tuned but I think it'll be worth it..
Old 09-29-2004 | 08:42 PM
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Nice times Darrin.

I haven't had the chance to run in sub 80 degree weather yet since UniChip and pulleys have been installed.

I'll have a chance to this weekend, it is supposed to be around 65-70, but with close to 80% humidity

Also, try unplugging the chip and see what you run. Seems like that'd be the easiest way to tell.
Old 09-29-2004 | 08:48 PM
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i'll give it a try steve, but i ran 14.27 with just intake and headers last year, so it seems like the chip might be doing me a little but not 100% potential as if it was custome tuned, i need to drive across the state like 3.5 hrs for a custome tune, i might just go with the greddy e-man
Old 09-29-2004 | 08:50 PM
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I also ran 14.2 with I/H/Tires as well. But my best trap speed of 98.2 is way off of my 99.9 now.
Old 09-29-2004 | 08:54 PM
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It takes alot to start dropping off the tenths.

I believe a rough estimation is the following:

Above 95 MPH (trap speed) It takes 10 whp to drop 1/10th off the ET. Adding the pulley, chip, and exhaust probably got you 15-20 whp (at most). If I remember it was quite cold when you ran 14.2 with your I/H setup.
Old 09-29-2004 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jtkz13
Thats cool, you put .07 on my STOCK(ish) 6 speed.

Damn you auto's and you good 60's. With that 60' I'd be in the 13's
i was comparing your 14.2 vs mine, very interesting to see the 6 spd vs the auto...

heres yours

RT........... .603
60'.......... 2.287
1/8 ET..... 9.377
1/8 MPH... 80.55
1/4 ET...... 14.293
1/4 MPH.... 98.78


mine:

2.161
6.045
9.192@77.71
11.921
14.211@98.68

whats weird is that i am 2 tenths quicker @ the 1/8th but you are 3mph quicker at the 1/8th, then by then end of the 1/4 you are still trappig slightly higher but about a tenth behind, i think this goes to show how hard 3rd gear on the auto pulls w/ headers
Old 09-29-2004 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
It takes alot to start dropping off the tenths.

I believe a rough estimation is the following:

Above 95 MPH (trap speed) It takes 10 whp to drop 1/10th off the ET. Adding the pulley, chip, and exhaust probably got you 15-20 whp (at most). If I remember it was quite cold when you ran 14.2 with your I/H setup.

i believe it was around 55 deg on that 14.2 run last year, i just want to hit 13's with this car, its gonna be very hard but i'll try
Old 09-29-2004 | 09:24 PM
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I can't believe torque braking doesn't work for you. I've never tried a street start at the track.

I think a 2500 rpm torque brake plus drag radials would net a 13 second run. If I go any higher than 2000 rpm I get gobs of wheel hop.
Old 09-29-2004 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by darrinb
i was comparing your 14.2 vs mine, very interesting to see the 6 spd vs the auto...

heres yours

RT........... .603
60'.......... 2.287
1/8 ET..... 9.377
1/8 MPH... 80.55
1/4 ET...... 14.293
1/4 MPH.... 98.78


mine:

2.161
6.045
9.192@77.71
11.921
14.211@98.68

whats weird is that i am 2 tenths quicker @ the 1/8th but you are 3mph quicker at the 1/8th, then by then end of the 1/4 you are still trappig slightly higher but about a tenth behind, i think this goes to show how hard 3rd gear on the auto pulls w/ headers

Well you run a better 1/8th because of your 60', no doubt. I'm giving up a tenth right off the bat, but with the shorter tires and more agressive gearing I get into 3rd before the 1/8th mile, whereas you are still in 2nd. My shift into 4th comes just a touch before the end, so that costs me about a tenth. If we had the same RT I would basically be playing catch-up right until the end where we'd pass the traps at nearly the same speed.

edit: maybe I'm wrong, where do u shift into 3rd? And do you drop below 5k at any point during the run?
Old 09-29-2004 | 09:35 PM
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well when i tb'ed i just mashed it right after i let off and really didnt try to ease into it, i went 2.16 from an idle, i dont really go from a street start, i have my left foot on the brake and my right on the gas till the last yellow goes i start, ever since they changed to .000 lights instead of a .500 i could swear that the light moves quicker, i have gone .500 on the old tree twice, best i did today was a .009
Old 09-29-2004 | 09:38 PM
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joe..

i am going into 3rd right at the 1/8th, and i stay above 5k on all shifts, except 3-4 shift, buts thats a whole diff story

on that run i ran my best 60' ever though, i cant go 2.16 everytime
Old 09-29-2004 | 09:49 PM
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darrin so you dont brake torque at all, just gun it from the start or do you ease in?
Old 09-29-2004 | 10:57 PM
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ease into it, just gotta get a feel for it
Old 09-30-2004 | 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by darrinb
i believe it was around 55 deg on that 14.2 run last year, i just want to hit 13's with this car, its gonna be very hard but i'll try

I'm an auto and I hit 13's all the time
Old 09-30-2004 | 12:53 AM
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how are people hitting such a low time. I have headers, intake, and 75 shot of nitrous and my best is a 14.032 w/ 2.2 60ft. Maybe my car was made on a monday? What ever i do, the car cant get out of 14.7 w/o nitrous, even with headers and intake. How is my car not responding to mods?
Old 09-30-2004 | 12:56 AM
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Get it dyno'd NA and see if its making the hp it should be.
Old 09-30-2004 | 12:56 AM
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I'm an auto and I hit 13's all the time
me too...


darrin ill be going 1.9 on street tires here shortly...you can go 2.0 trust me...think toyo T1-S 225/45
Old 09-30-2004 | 07:52 AM
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Don't worry Motion i'm in the same boat. Just went to the track yesterday and I still can't break a 14.8. I get alot of wheel hop whether I ease into the the throttle or brake torque it. Weather was a nice cool 57 degrees. The weird thing is before summer about same temps I also ran 14.8 but at a trap of 96mph and a 60ft of 2.3. Now I ran again a 14.8, but with a 2.2 60ft and a trap of 94 mph. How can I get the same 1/4 times with a better 60ft and a lower trap? The only thing different to the car is I have the Unichip now
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Your trap is very low for having intake and headers Louie. You should be around 98 MPH. What is the altitude of the track?
Old 09-30-2004 | 10:04 AM
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Hey Darrin good times bro... the lucky 13's is just in grasp but always manages to get eluded eh... Congrats on your new PB's though...
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
Your trap is very low for having intake and headers Louie. You should be around 98 MPH. What is the altitude of the track?
I think it depends. I've gone to the track with Bulldog and we have almost the exact setup (he has AEM or Injen intake and Stone headers whereas I have CT and OBX headers). He's gone a PB of 14.2 at 97-98 mph and I've only done a best of 14.6 @96, which is what some other cats here have gotten. Hopefully I can go tomorrow and can get some decent times (should be low humidity and in the 50-60 range at night). My biggest problem is my 60'. I've only run about 10 times but have never gotten better than a 2.38 60'! I TB (although only twice), mash from jump. I'll try easing it if I go tomorrow. Gotta clean the icebox filter tonight though!

Oh and Darrin, great times! Seems like we have a lot of consistency these days out of a lot of peeps here.
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I trapped at 96 with just an tntake don't know what you n00bs are doing wrong
Old 09-30-2004 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
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I trapped at 96 with just an tntake don't know what you n00bs are doing wrong
guess I don't live my life a quarter mile at a time! Stock I trapped 92-93, plus 96 with h/i wouldn't constitute a bad actuator. I admit I suxor at teh launch.
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Your tires must have pwn3d joo!

What are you using for rubber?
Old 09-30-2004 | 11:25 AM
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I was on stockers when I ran the 14.6 and it was no warmer than 45 degrees. Last time I went I ran three consistent 14.8s @95mph with relatively new Kumho 712s on a relatively warm day (75-85 degrees). My icebox at the time had some 10k miles I think without having been cleaned (a little over a year).

Only reason I might go tomorrow is because the weather should be good (60-70 in the day, probably 50-60 at night with 60ish% humidity), tires should be good (about 8k miles...well one of the rear tires has 500 miles), and the icebox should be clean. I'm gonna take out the spare and other junk so hopefully that helps too. I usually only drive the car as is.

I always have an excuse!
Old 09-30-2004 | 01:44 PM
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Nice times darrin.
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me too...


darrin ill be going 1.9 on street tires here shortly...you can go 2.0 trust me...think toyo T1-S 225/45

thats ny nest tire
Old 09-30-2004 | 04:32 PM
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Your trap is very low for having intake and headers Louie. You should be around 98 MPH. What is the altitude of the track?
I'm not sure about the altitude. It's just over the border into wis. I also have a lot less power than everyone else and my car is a pig. I dyno'd at 215hp and 189tq and my car with me in it weighs 3785lb's(i'm 165lbs). So I know why I get bad times compared with other people that have the same mods. I don't get how I can trap at 96mph w/60ft of 2.3 and trap at 94mph w/60ft of 2.2 and have the same 1/4 mile times of 14.8?
Old 09-30-2004 | 04:59 PM
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ive ran a 14.4 at 95 with just intake , my best trap was 96 but on a differant run ,,,, but when i got my 14.4 i got a 2.1 60ft on our shitty as stock tires .... but ive seen guys with headers range there trap speed from 94 to 98 . and i vary from 94 to 96 , with just intake
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Originally Posted by ga2000
ive ran a 14.4 at 95 with just intake , my best trap was 96 but on a differant run ,,,, but when i got my 14.4 i got a 2.1 60ft on our shitty as stock tires .... but ive seen guys with headers range there trap speed from 94 to 98 . and i vary from 94 to 96 , with just intake

y dont ya add some headers and a pulley, should put ya in the 13's
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it might darrin but its hard to knock off that many tenths


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