Need some advice..selling cl-s..which car should i get?
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Need some advice..selling cl-s..which car should i get?
Heys guys would like some advice from my a-zine brothers...i am selling my 01 cl-s auto and have a budget of around $25,000 max...
I originally wanted to get an 07 bmw 335i coupe but after doing some research i am not going to deal with the high maintenance costs and the problem with the high pressure fuel pump problems associated with this model...i am done with the manufacturers lemons..big reason of why i am getting rid of my auto cl. Too much money and headaches...sooo i have narrowed my search to 3 cars that i really like..
I am kind of torn as to what to buy so i would appreciate any thoughts, inputs or possible suggestions. I only want auto because of the wife and she will be driving the car..heres my short list:
#1 2008-2010 honda accord coupe v6 with navi
i love coupes and i really love the styling, performance and reliabilty of this car.
Price range 23,000- 19,000.
# 2 2008 cadillac cts 3.6l di awd
really great looking car in and out but seems to be slow for a 3.6l 304 hp engine. 0-60 times in the 6.5 second range...yuck i was expecting so much more. I am leaning towards buying the cts but hesitant..oh ya and its a gm product..big negative for me
price range 25,000- 23,000 for a lower mileage example..
# 3 2008-2009 infiniti g37 s-journey
its nice and fast enough but i don't know if i love it..in my price range high end more miles...i think its too small...
27,000-24000
the car i want the accord...i am a honda acura nut...am i crazy to want the accord coupe out of these 3? My wife wants the cts and i like the cts too but...i don't know!!?? I don't want to buy a cts and get my doors blown off by an accord coupe on my way to work...
0-60 times, handling, ride comfort are all issues for..this is my daily driver....
Help!!!??? Please!!!!
I originally wanted to get an 07 bmw 335i coupe but after doing some research i am not going to deal with the high maintenance costs and the problem with the high pressure fuel pump problems associated with this model...i am done with the manufacturers lemons..big reason of why i am getting rid of my auto cl. Too much money and headaches...sooo i have narrowed my search to 3 cars that i really like..
I am kind of torn as to what to buy so i would appreciate any thoughts, inputs or possible suggestions. I only want auto because of the wife and she will be driving the car..heres my short list:
#1 2008-2010 honda accord coupe v6 with navi
i love coupes and i really love the styling, performance and reliabilty of this car.
Price range 23,000- 19,000.
# 2 2008 cadillac cts 3.6l di awd
really great looking car in and out but seems to be slow for a 3.6l 304 hp engine. 0-60 times in the 6.5 second range...yuck i was expecting so much more. I am leaning towards buying the cts but hesitant..oh ya and its a gm product..big negative for me
price range 25,000- 23,000 for a lower mileage example..
# 3 2008-2009 infiniti g37 s-journey
its nice and fast enough but i don't know if i love it..in my price range high end more miles...i think its too small...
27,000-24000
the car i want the accord...i am a honda acura nut...am i crazy to want the accord coupe out of these 3? My wife wants the cts and i like the cts too but...i don't know!!?? I don't want to buy a cts and get my doors blown off by an accord coupe on my way to work...
0-60 times, handling, ride comfort are all issues for..this is my daily driver....
Help!!!??? Please!!!!
11-02-2010, 03:03 PM
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Why is this in the CL section...?
11-02-2010, 03:03 PM
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First of all, the High pressure pump issue on the 335's have been addressed, the pumps are warrantied now for 10 years and 100k miles, and your first 4 years of maintenance free. So I wouldn't shy away from that vehicle.
But anyway, if i had to choose, I'd get the g37 or the Accord, both great stylish cars that have been proven reliable and pretty quick.
But anyway, if i had to choose, I'd get the g37 or the Accord, both great stylish cars that have been proven reliable and pretty quick.
11-02-2010, 03:59 PM
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First of all, the High pressure pump issue on the 335's have been addressed, the pumps are warrantied now for 10 years and 100k miles, and your first 4 years of maintenance free. So I wouldn't shy away from that vehicle.
But anyway, if i had to choose, I'd get the g37 or the Accord, both great stylish cars that have been proven reliable and pretty quick.
But anyway, if i had to choose, I'd get the g37 or the Accord, both great stylish cars that have been proven reliable and pretty quick.
I vote Accord but I'm biased.
11-02-2010, 06:28 PM
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i say accord also, but get the sedan. If you and your wife are considering kids, then get the sedan. The infinity's are gas guzzlers, as nice as they are.
If your budget is 25k max, you could get a CL-S6 and mod it to the tits. M90 supercharger, body kit, paint...
If your budget is 25k max, you could get a CL-S6 and mod it to the tits. M90 supercharger, body kit, paint...
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First of all, the High pressure pump issue on the 335's have been addressed, the pumps are warrantied now for 10 years and 100k miles, and your first 4 years of maintenance free. So I wouldn't shy away from that vehicle.
But anyway, if i had to choose, I'd get the g37 or the Accord, both great stylish cars that have been proven reliable and pretty quick.
But anyway, if i had to choose, I'd get the g37 or the Accord, both great stylish cars that have been proven reliable and pretty quick.
i am leaning towards the accord too...
nah...lexus does absolutely nothing for me...toyota / lexus are souless
no sedans for me...love my coupes...when i drove the accord coupe i was shocked how big it felt inside and out...seems like a perfect fit for me..not too big not too small..thanks for the advice though dude
11-03-2010, 12:15 AM
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here is the cts i am considering buying...friggin loaded out...i have one major problem with it...the color!!! i don't want a purple car!!! color is called black cherry...i have yet to see it in person...
thoughts guys??
See this vehicle on Cars.com
thoughts guys??
See this vehicle on Cars.com
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[QUOTE=PAYMEE;12462372]here is the cts i am considering buying...
I dont see why not the CTS, for the price its great deal and I am sure you can get it for say 20,500 just negociate. I think CTS is very nice looking car and handels great with good gas milage. I have driven one, I buy it over BMW any day. About GM I have had 2 gm cars drove both upto 150k with only minimum maintainence, both were great and compare that to my toyota which had pile of issues from jamed brakelines to axle and then maintaining the CL is also costly.
But for coupe I go for the infinity any day, but I
guess accord is only coupe you are considering, not bad choice but FWD. Wt bout hundai's or RX8
I dont see why not the CTS, for the price its great deal and I am sure you can get it for say 20,500 just negociate. I think CTS is very nice looking car and handels great with good gas milage. I have driven one, I buy it over BMW any day. About GM I have had 2 gm cars drove both upto 150k with only minimum maintainence, both were great and compare that to my toyota which had pile of issues from jamed brakelines to axle and then maintaining the CL is also costly.
But for coupe I go for the infinity any day, but I
guess accord is only coupe you are considering, not bad choice but FWD. Wt bout hundai's or RX8
11-03-2010, 07:40 AM
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The accord would likely be my choice out of those. Easiest to maintain. But I'd rather get a SUV of some type. Maybe a MDX or 4 Runner. SI/NYC roads just tear up good cars. Friend of mine got a used X3 from open rd BMW a few months ago. I got to ride in it a few weeks ago when I was up there for a wedding. Pretty nice.
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11-03-2010, 12:18 PM
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what do you think about the color?? from the research i have done it seems that the cts is slower then the cl..not cool man..does anyone know which is faster, the accord coupe, cts 3.6 di or the cl...i know the g37 is the fastest but i really don't love it...and its rwd not good for the snow we get here in nyc....
here is the cts i am considering buying...
I dont see why not the CTS, for the price its great deal and I am sure you can get it for say 20,500 just negociate. I think CTS is very nice looking car and handels great with good gas milage. I have driven one, I buy it over BMW any day. About GM I have had 2 gm cars drove both upto 150k with only minimum maintainence, both were great and compare that to my toyota which had pile of issues from jamed brakelines to axle and then maintaining the CL is also costly.
But for coupe I go for the infinity any day, but I guess accord is only coupe you are considering, not bad choice but FWD. Wt bout hundai's or RX8
I dont see why not the CTS, for the price its great deal and I am sure you can get it for say 20,500 just negociate. I think CTS is very nice looking car and handels great with good gas milage. I have driven one, I buy it over BMW any day. About GM I have had 2 gm cars drove both upto 150k with only minimum maintainence, both were great and compare that to my toyota which had pile of issues from jamed brakelines to axle and then maintaining the CL is also costly.
But for coupe I go for the infinity any day, but I
guess accord is only coupe you are considering, not bad choice but FWD. Wt bout hundai's or RX8
11-03-2010, 12:23 PM
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The accord would likely be my choice out of those. Easiest to maintain. But I'd rather get a SUV of some type. Maybe a MDX or 4 Runner. SI/NYC roads just tear up good cars. Friend of mine got a used X3 from open rd BMW a few months ago. I got to ride in it a few weeks ago when I was up there for a wedding. Pretty nice.
i hate suv's slow, heavy and thirsty...thanks for the advice though...
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does anyone know which is faster, the accord coupe, cts 3.6 di or the cl...what bout the g37 coupe?
anyone have any first had knowledge or experience with any of these cars??
anyone have any first had knowledge or experience with any of these cars??
11-03-2010, 12:40 PM
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Have you looked into a Hyundai genesis coupe? The 2.0T would have some nice potential if you up the boost.
11-03-2010, 01:15 PM
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no first hand experience, but it looks like from browsing online that the CL-S would be faster then the CTS. The infinity would be faster then the CL off the line for sure. At speed i think the infinity would still be faster, but not a blow out.
Have you looked into a Hyundai genesis coupe? The 2.0T would have some nice potential if you up the boost.
Have you looked into a Hyundai genesis coupe? The 2.0T would have some nice potential if you up the boost.
what i really want to know will an accord v6 blow the doors off a cts??
11-03-2010, 02:22 PM
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There's a Car Talk forum for a reason.Meh, whatever. I remember StonedCL made a thread exactly like this and it got moved... but not this one?
11-03-2010, 02:29 PM
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11-03-2010, 03:53 PM
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They AV6 6-speed is only a tenth or two quicker through the 1/4mi than your CL-S. The accord is actually more refined now than the last gen CL was at the time it was on sale 2003.
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My brother has an 08 6MT Accord coupe. Its a nice car. The interior is much better then the CL, although the seats leave a little to be desired. The back seat is spacious (comparatively). The navigation is pretty nice. Its got some decent power. Stock vs stock, the Accord is a faster car, but only past 80 or so. I raced my brother a few times when I was stock and it was a very close race.
Aside from the power passenger seat, memory seating and mirrors, and the passenger mirror that moves when you engage reverse (all in the CL), they are pretty similar cars.
These are the problems Ive encountered:
I like the car, in fact I almost picked up an Alabaster 6MT/nav a few months before the CL. I knew I would want to mod it and with a $500+ month car payment, modding would be limited.
That said, unless the CL was really having problems, I dont know if the trade would be worth it.
As far as parts that can be swapped, only a few. Wheels will work, although the Accord can take a more aggressive fitment. Our headers wont work and at the moment there are no precat deletes available. You can use the 6th gen Accord suspension IIRC. Other then that, you need to get creative.
This is one of my favorites:
Now, unless the CTS is followed by -V Wagon, Im not interested in it.
Aside from the power passenger seat, memory seating and mirrors, and the passenger mirror that moves when you engage reverse (all in the CL), they are pretty similar cars.
These are the problems Ive encountered:
I like the car, in fact I almost picked up an Alabaster 6MT/nav a few months before the CL. I knew I would want to mod it and with a $500+ month car payment, modding would be limited.
That said, unless the CL was really having problems, I dont know if the trade would be worth it.
As far as parts that can be swapped, only a few. Wheels will work, although the Accord can take a more aggressive fitment. Our headers wont work and at the moment there are no precat deletes available. You can use the 6th gen Accord suspension IIRC. Other then that, you need to get creative.
This is one of my favorites:
Now, unless the CTS is followed by -V Wagon, Im not interested in it.
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11-03-2010, 06:35 PM
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My brother has an 08 6MT Accord coupe. Its a nice car. The interior is much better then the CL, although the seats leave a little to be desired. The back seat is spacious (comparatively). The navigation is pretty nice. Its got some decent power. Stock vs stock, the Accord is a faster car, but only past 80 or so. I raced my brother a few times when I was stock and it was a very close race.
Aside from the power passenger seat, memory seating and mirrors, and the passenger mirror that moves when you engage reverse (all in the CL), they are pretty similar cars.
These are the problems Ive encountered:
That said, unless the CL was really having problems, I dont know if the trade would be worth it.
As far as parts that can be swapped, only a few. Wheels will work, although the Accord can take a more aggressive fitment. Our headers wont work and at the moment there are no precat deletes available. You can use the 6th gen Accord suspension IIRC. Other then that, you need to get creative.
This is one of my favorites:
Now, unless the CTS is followed by -V Wagon, Im not interested in it.
Aside from the power passenger seat, memory seating and mirrors, and the passenger mirror that moves when you engage reverse (all in the CL), they are pretty similar cars.
These are the problems Ive encountered:
- The blind spot. The c-pillars in the Accord are rediculously large. There is a large area that you cannot see due to them. The CL isn't the best car Ive driven as far as rearward visibility goes, but its nowhere near as bad as the Accord.
- Headlights. They suck. The projector optics are garbage in them. In NY, that probably wont matter though.
- Seats. As I noted above, the seats in the CL offer more support. They also look better IMO.
- No LSD. I know alot of people say who cares. Try driving a car with 252lbs-tq going through one wheel.
- Drive-by-wire. Maybe they fixed it for 2009-up (and Im actually going to ask my dealer if there is a reflash for the ecu), but the DBW system is intrusive. If you are driving on level ground around 35-45mph, the car surges. Its like the computer has no idea what to do around 20% throttle. It also does not allow you to easily rev match on downshifts. Usually, you disengage the clutch, blip the throttle while changing gears and engage the clutch. The ECU wont let you do that unless you hit the gas twice. It thinks that the first blip was an accident.
- If you buy a 2008, there will be rattles. Most notably is the passenger side quarter glass trim. To fix the rattle, you need to pull the glass. My brother didnt want to deal with that and risk the dealer screwing something up so he tries to not pay attention to it.
- The 6MTs do seem to have an occasional issue with 3rd gear, like most late model 6MT Hondas. Its either very hard to engage or will pop out.
That said, unless the CL was really having problems, I dont know if the trade would be worth it.
As far as parts that can be swapped, only a few. Wheels will work, although the Accord can take a more aggressive fitment. Our headers wont work and at the moment there are no precat deletes available. You can use the 6th gen Accord suspension IIRC. Other then that, you need to get creative.
This is one of my favorites:
Now, unless the CTS is followed by -V Wagon, Im not interested in it.
i really am loving the accord coupe...i love my cl but made the grave mistake of buying an auto. so time for a newer more reliable version of my cl...thanks for the write up..very informative...by the way i love the accord in the polished metal metallic....car looks sick with the body kit
11-03-2010, 06:41 PM
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Were you looking at getting another automatic, or would it be a 6mt?
Keep in mind the autos are nowhere near as quick as the 6mt. The VCM system (that thankfully the 6MT doesnt have) robs a decent amount of power. My mom has a 2008 V6 sedan and the power difference between the two is very noticeable.
Keep in mind the autos are nowhere near as quick as the 6mt. The VCM system (that thankfully the 6MT doesnt have) robs a decent amount of power. My mom has a 2008 V6 sedan and the power difference between the two is very noticeable.
11-03-2010, 08:09 PM
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were you looking at getting another automatic, or would it be a 6mt?
Keep in mind the autos are nowhere near as quick as the 6mt. The vcm system (that thankfully the 6mt doesnt have) robs a decent amount of power. My mom has a 2008 v6 sedan and the power difference between the two is very noticeable.
Keep in mind the autos are nowhere near as quick as the 6mt. The vcm system (that thankfully the 6mt doesnt have) robs a decent amount of power. My mom has a 2008 v6 sedan and the power difference between the two is very noticeable.
11-04-2010, 12:16 AM
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Since you like the CTS have you considered a 2004 to 2007 CTS-V? Parts would be cheap and labor is a sinch if something were to go wrong. 04-05 have the 5.7 LS6 Z06Vette engine with 400Hp. The 06-07 has the 6.0 LS2 base Vette/GTO engine with 400hp and a slightly better TQ curve then the LS6. These cars would make quick work of the AV6, G37 and base CTS 3.6di. They can be had with low miles for under the $25K limit you set. The aftermarket support is as good as anything else out there. The engines have proved themselves to be just as reliable as anything eles when maintained correctly, + there is no stupid timing belt to change.
Just thought I would throw that out there since you were looking at the Caddy.
That Accord Civic posted looks killer! Best one I've seen yet!
Just thought I would throw that out there since you were looking at the Caddy.
That Accord Civic posted looks killer! Best one I've seen yet!
11-04-2010, 12:51 PM
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Where have you seen CTS-Vs under $25k? 
If thats what theyre going for now I really bought the wrong car.
If thats what theyre going for now I really bought the wrong car.
11-04-2010, 01:23 PM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CTS-V...item3f04626fb6
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cts-v...item255e8fd5db
And here is one with only 12K miles for $25k.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CADIL...item3f046e596f
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Moder...item2eb10e83fc
I like this one.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2004-...item33623bfdcb
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CTS-V...item4154245089
Higher miles but only $16k
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CTS-V...item53e460c4c2
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cts-v...item255e8fd5db
And here is one with only 12K miles for $25k.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CADIL...item3f046e596f
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Moder...item2eb10e83fc
I like this one.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2004-...item33623bfdcb
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CTS-V...item4154245089
Higher miles but only $16k
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CTS-V...item53e460c4c2
11-04-2010, 01:29 PM
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I has a sad.
I prefer the second gen (which can be had for around $40k), but I would "settle" for a first gen.
11-04-2010, 02:06 PM
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I'm kinda mixed on the styling of the new one but it really does not matter when you have 556HP!
Paymee, wich way are you leaning? AV6?
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Ya I'm leaning toward the accord...the cts v is nice and fast but the interior is budget in those yr cts..I love the motor but it's only manual trans...I kinda need an auto..starting to look more at the g37 coupes..pretty hot..they just look too small...accord is like a nice blend of everything...
11-04-2010, 05:45 PM
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Ya I'm leaning toward the accord...the cts v is nice and fast but the interior is budget in those yr cts..I love the motor but it's only manual trans...I kinda need an auto..starting to look more at the g37 coupes..pretty hot..they just look too small...accord is like a nice blend of everything...
Oh thats right, my bad, you did say you needed a auto trans.