I need this for my MidEngine 94 Civic coupe conversion using an 01 CL motor and 03 6 speed transmission.
I got this motor off of Ebay for $165 with power steering and harness with a couple of other things.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...MEWN%3AIT&rd=1


Can Someone take a picture of thier clutch please I need to count the extruded part to determine the clutch spline to retrofit another clutch and flywheel from possibly an Acura RSX-S ( uses same release bearing part) or H22 motor.

I've found this but I can't zoom in clearly enough to count the teeth in the center.



The reason I'm looking for another clutch ( some of you may already know) is because there isn't much except for comptech thats about it, and even comptech wont cut the power and torque I will produce.

( P.S Comptech sucks I emailed whoever it was wasn't too sure of the spline count was and said ''yeah it should be the same as RSX '' I asked if was the same as RSX B.T.W. )

 

Cool project. I just now saw about it. How far along with the project are you? Wish I could help with the spline count, I'm an automatic.

 

Not far at all I'm still getting all required parts I have to pick up the engine later this week, then get a transmission.

Plan to have Iron cylinder liners (Darton), Custom pistons (Wiesco), Custom Rods (Cunningham rods) and modified crankshaft by Castillos.

Motec M600 for engine control.

Innovative Gt72 and a custom 6-2-1 header made by me.

MidEngine RWD by setting Engine and drivetrain in the rear of the car.

 

What model Civic? EX coupe?

 

It is a Dx (2,231 lbs) - Thats going to have power windows and steering

Goal of this car is 1900lbs or lower by using lighter body panels.

 

Good luck with that. Should be an awesome project. Is it a coupe? Or fo' doe'?

 

It's a coupe my first post says it .

My Avatar is what a 94 coupe is.

 

Okay. I'm blind. My appologies. I said it before, and I'll say it again. This will be a cool project.

 

How/where are you planning to mount the motor? Yank out the back seat, and work around that, and build two fire walls?

 

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=981613

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1266033


That should give you an idea.

 

that hybrid integra/lude is crazy! quite an undertaking but it will be even better with a j-series engine. are you looking to increase the compresion ratio with your setup or just fortify some internals on the engine? good luck and i saw that engine on ebay too, quite a deal, did you have it shipped to a local loding dock or what?

 

PM 'Allout' he's got a stock clutch laying around.

 

This is a SICK project by the way.

I'm assuming your going with a turbo. Which one do you have in mind?

 

Yeah I paid for shipping to a terminal in my area.


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Completely new internals, since there not off the shelf ( ready to buy) I'll have to have custom order done. Flat top pistons highest compression possible.

http://www.innovativeturbo.com/pages...asp?sku=GT72BB

 

Congrats on the project, I love seeing people chop shit up

 

GT72 Holy fuck dude you're crazy

 

DAMN! That's a monster turbo. This will be so cool. What kind of gigantor numbers will you make with this set up?

 

800 up 1000+ with effort, and this is to the wheels on a mustang dyno.

OEM transmission wont like this very well. I'll have straight cut gears and dog ring = Stronger and permits clutchless upshifts if I please.


I'm a mechanic for a living and I'm doing all the work, from buying the parts to blue- printing and building.

 

What compression/boost are you planning?

 

You might want to search around the different Sandrail cars that use this motor. Very often they are turbocharged with tons of power. If you can figure out where they source their parts you might save a ton of cash.

 

For starters:

http://www.cgperformance.com/honda_turn-key_motors.htm

 

First and foremost I'm going to be running methanol.

It depends on how far up I can have a flat top piston safely. It could be 11 or 13:1 .

Boost pressure depends on how well I can cool the GT72 hot compressed air.

 

mr steve, are those motors only for sandrails or could you theoretically implement one of those engines(from the site), say with a turbo, into our car(assuming proper cooling etc.)

 

Not with that turbo manifold there using, I dont own a CL but I know from looking @ pictures of the engine bay that it wouldn't fit.

You could make it fit with a different manifold.

 

Yeah there's no way it would fit in the stock engine bay. However, there are at least 4 turbo CL-S's running around the country right now so it is possible to have a similar setup fit. You just need to locate the turbo on the driver's side of the engine bay near where the battery sits.

 

cool project! Maybe you made a misprint, but you said that as much compression as possible and your going to use that big of a turbo?

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With all that fabrication and your skills, you should dump the stock 6 speed and put a power glide behind the "J" series. You can make or have made a transmission adapter and there are great glides out there for turbo cars. Use that with a two-step, tranny brake, and delay box and you'll be consistent each and every time. Besides, there is not a viable pressure plate to handle that kind of power. I'd also put a Ford 9in rather than use the honda axel setup. The money you'd spend on axels to handle that power you could set your self up with a 9in and never have to replace it.

 

This isn't a drag car.

Yes I ment highest compression.

You cannnot use a Ford 9 inch rear in a midengine setup I wouldn't do it if I could.

Suspension will be double wishbone, not live axle rear.

There are pressure plates to handle this power. Tilton makes generic multi plate clutch disc setups and pressure plates, to fit there fly wheels. 300m steel axle's will handle the job.

 

So you're hoping to run 13:1 compression and that monster turbo?

May I ask why?

 

Just because I run a turbocharger doesn't mean you have to lower your compression, it just means you have to run better fuels.


The lower your compression the less efficient. 90% of heat is what drives a turbo charger, I'd run 13:1 if I can, I wont go higher than that.

 

I realize that it's all in fuel and tuning, but it would seem that you could achieve similar horsepower results with lower compression, more boost, and a better suited turbo (like the GT35).

I also think you'll run into valve clearance issues with the flat-top pistons but we'll see Keep us informed of your progress.

 

You cannot make 800whp with a GT35R, I see you guys use a T3 turbine side, however I'm not doing this. T4 or no turbocharger at all its much more efficient.

Clearences will be fine, it's no different from a Honda 4 cylinder running 13:1 with dome pistons and a big cam.

 

How many pounds of boost are you hoping for?

 

It really varies with Turbocharger so I would be guessing at thing point.

Last night I got my engine from the shipping terminal!






Took those with camera phone so bare with the darknes ( digital cam I had was sold )


I tried it in the front and it fits well suprizingly oh well it anit going in there...

I found a source for a CL-6 speed for 475 so I'm getting it asap

 

That isn't the J32A2 FYI. At least the engine cover doesn't look like it came off a type-s. What's the stamp on the block say?

 

It's an a1.

< I am very aware of that however there is little difference.

A touch different compression and a slighty higher redline there isn't much to change in the ECU maps.

 

The intake manifold is a different design. The a2 has a dual stage butterfly valve that opens at 3,800rpm.

Different cams, different throttle body, etc.

 

Take a guess, it's not that hard to do. You must have somewhat of an idea what boost your planning to run. with the size turbo you've proposed to use, the sky is the limit, so go ahead, take a stab at it and make a guess.

looked at some of your pictures, looks good.

 

The following are different intake manifold, throttle body but....

I just checked Acura parts # and the camshaft # is the same as the Type S, I took a guess since redline for the two motors arent really far apart. It's really the ecu tunes that make a difference.

I'm making my own intake manifold the oem part isnt an ideal design for me.


Thin Jim : I didnt do the math yet on compressor requirement calculations thats why I havent told you.

30 psi or possibly more.

 

You may want to check the camshaft part numbers again:

J32A1 = 14100-P8E-L00
J32A2 = 14100-PGE-A00

Not trying to prove you wrong or anything. Just trying to help you out

 

Valve springs, valves, etc. Basically the entire head on the A2 has different part numbers than the A1. Doesn't mean they are drastically different,