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Old 06-07-2003, 01:49 AM
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Anyone find good motor mounts or anything else to stop wheel hop?
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would lowering springs actually help with that.....i was planning on getting some anyways, but it would just be an added bonus i guess.
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This is the only way to eliminate wheel hop. It works great on my Si. Maybe they, or someone else, could come up with something like this for the CL/TL. It's a prety simple set up and it really works well. http://www.z10eng.com/index2.cfm
Old 06-07-2003, 09:39 AM
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does it work? what is the side effects?
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Yes, it works great. It works by pre-loading the lower A-arm. You only pre-loadit as little as possible, as needed, to eliminate the hop. If you pre-load to much it can wear on the A-arm mounts. Here's another fafricator tha makes it for the Civics. http://www.jimfab.com/
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i never get wheel hop unless i TB from a very high rpm
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So what your saying Brad, is that SOMEONE should contact one of these guys and see if they are willing to custom fab 1 for the CL?

I can't stand wheel hop ... I want a solution too.

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Originally posted by Smitty
So what your saying Brad, is that SOMEONE should contact one of these guys and see if they are willing to custom fab 1 for the CL?

I can't stand wheel hop ... I want a solution too.

Smitty
I just E-mailed Jimfab to see where he's located. Z10 is located in Oakhurst, NJ. If someone nearby would like to contact them to see if they would look at their car to see about putting something together, that would be great. When I find out where Jimfab is, I will post up again, or go myself if it's close. I wonder if the TL and CL have the same front end,.... application crossover would be helpfull.
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Brad I will talk to Eric (typeS1967), I know he is in Jersey and he might be up for this mod since he loves to take the lead.

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p.s. I got vacation time coming up in July, if necessary I will make the haul.
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Originally posted by Smitty
Brad I will talk to Eric (typeS1967), I know he is in Jersey and he might be up for this mod since he loves to take the lead.

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p.s. I got vacation time coming up in July, if necessary I will make the haul.
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My how times have changed. Back when I had my 68 SS/RS 396 cid 375 hp camaro convertible (that had a frame), we would recapture the torque that was lost by the engine rocking on the rubber motor mounts thusly:

Head on down to your local friendly Ace hardware store and buy a few feet of sturdy chain. Bolt chain to the frame and the engine with a slight bit of tension (you have to pick the correct side, naturally.) Of course then, the engines were 90 degrees different from our configuration, and I don't think we have much to bolt to, so, I don't advise this. In fact, because you will have more torque, it just might increase wheel hop. Looked cool, though.
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Originally posted by dfreder370
My how times have changed. Back when I had my 68 SS/RS 396 cid 375 hp camaro convertible (that had a frame), we would recapture the torque that was lost by the engine rocking on the rubber motor mounts thusly:

Head on down to your local friendly Ace hardware store and buy a few feet of sturdy chain. Bolt chain to the frame and the engine with a slight bit of tension (you have to pick the correct side, naturally.) Of course then, the engines were 90 degrees different from our configuration, and I don't think we have much to bolt to, so, I don't advise this. In fact, because you will have more torque, it just might increase wheel hop. Looked cool, though.
My 68 RS, 327 2brl, Camaro, had a safety cable on one mount from the factory. If the motor mount broke, the engine would lift enough to pull the throttle open!

With the Si, we replaced the stock rear mount with poly to keep from breaking the stock one.
Old 06-07-2003, 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by ModAddict
This is the only way to eliminate wheel hop. It works great on my Si. Maybe they, or someone else, could come up with something like this for the CL/TL. It's a prety simple set up and it really works well. http://www.z10eng.com/index2.cfm
I had planned on looking into this for our cars. You can get most of the parts needed at a local hardware store; it just takes the time and tools to make your own correctly. But it would be great if someone made one for us.
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What does wheel hop feel like?
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What does wheel hop feel like?
The worst out-of-balance or flat-spotted tire making its presence at low speeds but very pronounced. It essentially is the whole front end (on a FWD vehicle) bouncing and shaking violently.
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basically like your air suspension is really fucked up and it ain't going up.
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I only get it if i really nail it at the right RPMs in 1st or 2nd.
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Originally posted by ABreece
I only get it if i really nail it at the right RPMs in 1st or 2nd.
LOL.. were you expecting to see it in 4th, 5th, or 6th gear?..lol
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Originally posted by ModAddict
I just E-mailed Jimfab to see where he's located. Z10 is located in Oakhurst, NJ. If someone nearby would like to contact them to see if they would look at their car to see about putting something together, that would be great. When I find out where Jimfab is, I will post up again, or go myself if it's close. I wonder if the TL and CL have the same front end,.... application crossover would be helpfull.
Jimfab is not interested. Never did tell me where he was located. :thumbsdn:
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Perhaps replacing the soft bushings used on the radius rods would help? Those K frames as they are frequently called made by Z10 and others actually install something into Civics and Tegs they are normally not equipped with .So perhaps replacing the radius rod bushings with some urethane bushings from a kit for another car could be the solution on a cheap budget.
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Yeah good point Jens, someone brought that up a long time ago.. but no one followed through... So I guess the hunt for bushing begins..LOL... Brad you try that other Co. yet?

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Originally posted by Jens H.
Perhaps replacing the soft bushings used on the radius rods would help? Those K frames as they are frequently called made by Z10 and others actually install something into Civics and Tegs they are normally not equipped with .So perhaps replacing the radius rod bushings with some urethane bushings from a kit for another car could be the solution on a cheap budget.
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Well there you go again! That would be the right thing to try first!
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Yeah good point Jens, someone brought that up a long time ago.. but no one followed through... So I guess the hunt for bushing begins..LOL... Brad you try that other Co. yet?

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Ii's right above your post. ^^^^ :P
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Originally posted by ModAddict
I just E-mailed Jimfab to see where he's located. Z10 is located in Oakhurst, NJ.
I was under the impression you were contacting 2 DIFFERENT companies..

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Originally posted by Smitty
I was under the impression you were contacting 2 DIFFERENT companies..

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Just a guess here but I think the front radius rod bushings for a Ford Explorer vintage 92 or so might be made to work .You can get these from Prothane.com .I seem to remember these trucks had about the same style bushing we use .But no doubt some mods will have to be made to them .I could not find a direct application for the CL or TL .
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Originally posted by dfreder370
My how times have changed. Back when I had my 68 SS/RS 396 cid 375 hp camaro convertible (that had a frame), we would recapture the torque that was lost by the engine rocking on the rubber motor mounts thusly:

Head on down to your local friendly Ace hardware store and buy a few feet of sturdy chain. Bolt chain to the frame and the engine with a slight bit of tension (you have to pick the correct side, naturally.) Of course then, the engines were 90 degrees different from our configuration, and I don't think we have much to bolt to, so, I don't advise this. In fact, because you will have more torque, it just might increase wheel hop. Looked cool, though.

hahaha... i remember doing that to cars we used to work on in hight school!!
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Originally posted by Smitty
LOL.. were you expecting to see it in 4th, 5th, or 6th gear?..lol
Hah, no.

I was pointing out that it isn't much of a problem for me - i have to be in the right RPM range to get them to bounce around.
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So who is currently working on this project, to end wheel hop?

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Originally posted by Smitty
Yeah good point Jens, someone brought that up a long time ago.. but no one followed through... So I guess the hunt for bushing begins.

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I thought you were! Did you drop the ball again? :P Do you need some ideas to get you started?
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How did I become the poster child for this project?
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Originally posted by Smitty
How did I become the poster child for this project?
Now that you mentioned it, schoeny14 was the one asking about it in the first place. What about it schoeny,......there's enough info here to try the ford poly bushings,....are you going to give it a try?
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Yeah Schoeny... try it out and report back..
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Hey Jens do u think u could post a link to www.acuraautomotiveparts.org and tell us (me) what bushings would need to be replaced; ie the picture #s .


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1. Get the part number for the Acura front radius rod bushings and order.
2. Order two "Poly" front radius rod bushings for a Ford Explorer vintage 92
3. Modify the Ford bushings to match the Acura bushings and return the Acura bushings, or send them to a manufacturer of poly kits, to copy.
4. Install, the bushings and comence the testing!
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Interesting site ,ok go to "front lower arm" and then look at part 10 and 11 .Those are the bushings in question .Sorry could ot make the link thingy work .Not that PC literate
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So you 6 speeders are experiencing wheel hop? I had it happen all the time in my auto 01, but not once in my 03 mt. I drive it hard at times, and have had no wheel hop. I hated it in the 01. Made me not wanna launch hard. Dunno if its just me. Anyone heard of www.energysuspension.com. They make suspension and motor mounts that are made to decrease wheel hop. Not sure if they make it for our car thou. Just started looking at it the other day.
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I don't think they make a kit for the cl, but they have one out for the RSX-S now. Would that be similar to ours or a diff setup? Maybe some people should call and try to get them to make a kit for the cl/tl.
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Originally posted by brian6speed
I don't think they make a kit for the cl,
You should of read page 1 & 2 first before saying that...LOL..


What is going on with this??... we got any progress?

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